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Guru
6/29/08 8:09:21PM
Silly question, but it seems ive lost about half my punching speed.
how would i go about getting it back?
IE. exercises, and what-not
how would i go about getting it back?
IE. exercises, and what-not
zacatack
6/29/08 8:11:09PM
hit a speed bag are a double ended bag
hotrodttt
6/29/08 8:11:42PM
Punch with dumbells in your hands and do some elastic band exercises, with those your should get your hand speed back in no time 
Omega
6/29/08 8:32:23PM
LOL, well I wouldn't suggest either one of those. Simple focus mitt work tends to handle it as long as you have a good coach on the other side. To get my hand speed back we constantly did the focus mitt work and I was finally snapping my punches again.
fullerene
6/29/08 8:32:34PM
Posted by hotrodttt
Punch with dumbells in your hands and do some elastic band exercises, with those your should get your hand speed back in no time
I disagree with that approach. I haven't seen it used in a boxing gym and usually speed training requires moving your arms/legs as fast as they can go, not moving them slower with resistance. Also punching with dumbells can bother the shoulders and wrists. I don't say that as something definiitve, but this is my own opinion.
I'm not sue you can "get faster" once you're already in shape as much as you can stop getting slower. Have you been stretching (good), boxing including shadowboxing without gloves (good), lifting weights (potentially bad), gaining weight (potentially bad)? Probably the #1 cause (besides getting old) of people losing their speed while training is that they get enamored by weight lfiting. Lifting does a lot of good things for your body and your fight game, but if you don't build the muscles proportionally and maintain the same range of motion it can hurt you in other areas.
Omega
6/29/08 8:35:45PM
Posted by fullerene
Posted by hotrodttt
Punch with dumbells in your hands and do some elastic band exercises, with those your should get your hand speed back in no time
I disagree with that approach. I haven't seen it used in a boxing gym and usually speed training requires moving your arms/legs as fast as they can go, not moving them slower with resistance. Also punching with dumbells can bother the shoulders and wrists. I don't say that as something definiitve, but this is my own opinion.
I'm not sue you can "get faster" once you're already in shape as much as you can stop getting slower. Have you been stretching (good), boxing including shadowboxing without gloves (good), lifting weights (potentially bad), gaining weight (potentially bad)? Probably the #1 cause (besides getting old) of people losing their speed while training is that they get enamored by weight lfiting. Lifting does a lot of good things for your body and your fight game, but if you don't build the muscles proportionally and maintain the same range of motion it can hurt you in other areas.
Oh, and what he said......just with less words because I teach like caveman.
hotrodttt
6/29/08 8:38:57PM
Posted by fullerene
Posted by hotrodttt
Punch with dumbells in your hands and do some elastic band exercises, with those your should get your hand speed back in no time
I disagree with that approach. I haven't seen it used in a boxing gym and usually speed training requires moving your arms/legs as fast as they can go, not moving them slower with resistance. Also punching with dumbells can bother the shoulders and wrists. I don't say that as something definiitve, but this is my own opinion.
I'm not sue you can "get faster" once you're already in shape as much as you can stop getting slower. Have you been stretching (good), boxing including shadowboxing without gloves (good), lifting weights (potentially bad), gaining weight (potentially bad)? Probably the #1 cause (besides getting old) of people losing their speed while training is that they get enamored by weight lfiting. Lifting does a lot of good things for your body and your fight game, but if you don't build the muscles proportionally and maintain the same range of motion it can hurt you in other areas.
Used in Boxing Gyms, No, But these Teckniques are used in MMA Gyms. I've seen countless MMA Fighters including Tyson Griffin and Josh McDonald use these Teckniques.
Guru
6/29/08 8:53:52PM
these all sound pretty good. though i tend to agree with the no weight concept.
as of now im going to change my regimine a bit and cut the HEAVY lifting and focus on toning and cardio. ill use focus mits and shadow bow more, as well as hitting the heavy bag...
Thanks fellas
as of now im going to change my regimine a bit and cut the HEAVY lifting and focus on toning and cardio. ill use focus mits and shadow bow more, as well as hitting the heavy bag...
Thanks fellas
HMA123
6/29/08 9:06:39PM
maybe some wrist weights, speedbag hitting, focus mits etc. But if you do have a punching bag.
Hit the bag, you no when you hit a bag and it rocks back and forth, well hit it and before it comes back at you throw a quick combo. So i hit the bag it went forward, before it comes back (which will be fast, all this is happening in the matter of 2-3 seconds) i hit it with a jab,cross. Keep practicing stuff like that. It will definetly help your speed.
Hit the bag, you no when you hit a bag and it rocks back and forth, well hit it and before it comes back at you throw a quick combo. So i hit the bag it went forward, before it comes back (which will be fast, all this is happening in the matter of 2-3 seconds) i hit it with a jab,cross. Keep practicing stuff like that. It will definetly help your speed.
Omega
6/29/08 9:28:10PM
Posted by hotrodttt
Posted by fullerene
Posted by hotrodttt
Punch with dumbells in your hands and do some elastic band exercises, with those your should get your hand speed back in no time
I disagree with that approach. I haven't seen it used in a boxing gym and usually speed training requires moving your arms/legs as fast as they can go, not moving them slower with resistance. Also punching with dumbells can bother the shoulders and wrists. I don't say that as something definiitve, but this is my own opinion.
I'm not sue you can "get faster" once you're already in shape as much as you can stop getting slower. Have you been stretching (good), boxing including shadowboxing without gloves (good), lifting weights (potentially bad), gaining weight (potentially bad)? Probably the #1 cause (besides getting old) of people losing their speed while training is that they get enamored by weight lfiting. Lifting does a lot of good things for your body and your fight game, but if you don't build the muscles proportionally and maintain the same range of motion it can hurt you in other areas.
Used in Boxing Gyms, No, But these Teckniques are used in MMA Gyms. I've seen countless MMA Fighters including Tyson Griffin and Josh McDonald use these Teckniques.
But not for hand speed. They are used as an anerobic condition exercise.
Guru
6/29/08 9:42:00PM
Sick
I like it thanks.
I like it thanks.
Kracker_Jap
6/29/08 9:47:52PM
Posted by Guru
Silly question, but it seems ive lost about half my punching speed.
how would i go about getting it back?
IE. exercises, and what-not
Are you the same guy who said he use to weigh 155 and now is around 185???
If so that is the reason IMO, I'm always slower at 220 the I am at 190 or less
The-Don
6/29/08 9:56:53PM
yea bands and weights are not for increaseing speed but more power.. I always heard mitts and speed bag are for developing speed and accuracy..
Guru
6/29/08 10:31:31PM
yeah im at 205 haha but since i started our rgimin ive gotten slower.
seanfu
6/30/08 2:40:42AM
As far as speed there are different kinds, reaction speed and accuracy are good for punch mitts, but all out balls let em loose is good on a heavy or speed bag. I usually like to add in a tight explosive 3 to four punch combo or two. Probably sounds like basic stuff but the entire punching style can change.
You know all the other stuff already I'm sure.
As for me, I don't worry about it these days, too menial, I have better things to do like punch down banana trees and benchpress small cars. Sometimes on the weekends when I feel like working cardio I swim the English Channel.
You know all the other stuff already I'm sure.
As for me, I don't worry about it these days, too menial, I have better things to do like punch down banana trees and benchpress small cars. Sometimes on the weekends when I feel like working cardio I swim the English Channel.
fedorwins1
7/1/08 12:35:41PM
Posted by Guru
these all sound pretty good. though i tend to agree with the no weight concept.
as of now im going to change my regimine a bit and cut the HEAVY lifting and focus on toning and cardio.
This is a myth. Lifting heavy will not make you slower, in fact if you do it right it will make you A LOT faster.
www.rosstraining.com
This guy knows exactly what he's talking about, it's worth a look.
Here's a quote from his article about strength training for fighters, "Many will read of heavy weight training and falsely assume that such methods will negatively influence speed. One common myth suggests that heavy weight training will lead to unnecessary bulk, which consequently will reduce range of motion and speed development. This is completely untrue.
Consider a powerful football player who sprints 40 yards in less than 5 seconds. Clearly, weight training does not influence his speed. What about the 100 meter sprinter who covers this distance in less than 10 seconds? Weight training does not influence his speed potential either.
When you understand how the body functions, you will quickly realize that a strength program designed to enhance the efficiency of the fast twitch muscle fibers will not harm speed potential. On the contrary, the right program can assist with speed production."