Guillard Sucker Punch Confirmed

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JoeMimic
2/28/07 3:32:44PM
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Performify here. (The main man, Mr. UFC Junkie himself, is hopped up on pain pills and muscle relaxers from his back injury — and loving every minute of it.)

So, in his absence, I wanted to pass along this intriguing bit of news.

We’ve heard the rumors floating for a couple days, but today a credible source I know has confirmed the story, so we’re comfortable bringing it to you.

UFC lightweights Melvin Guillard (20-5 MMA, 3-1 UFC), who is set to face Joe “Daddy” Stevenson at UFC Fight Night 9 in April, and The Ultimate Fighter 4 cast member Rich “No Love” Clementi (24-11-1 MMA, 1-2 UFC) have apparently been cultivating a serious rivalry that has recently heated up to the point of boiling over.

The two lightweights apparently started the feud by exchanging heated e-mails talking trash. You can follow some of the back-story on the MMA.tv forums, where Clementi is actually a poster. On page five of the thread, Clementi (posting under the name “No Love”) actually weighs in with some reported email transcripts between Guillard and himself.

This history of e-trash talk apparently came to a head last weekend, where at a local fight event, Guillard reportedly walked up to Clementi and punched him during an exchange of words.

According to reports, Guillard walked over, Clementi put out his hand for a shake and asked, “What’s up with those e-mails?” Apparently, before Clementi could finish, Guillard punched him in the face but didn’t noticeably hurt him. The two fighters squared off, but nothing happened, and it eventually got broken up.

Guillard then apparently threatened to shoot Clementi, stating, “Next time I’ll hit you with my pistol,” which consequently lead to him being tossed out of the fights.

According to sources close to one of the fighters, the two lightweights are now in discussions with UFC matchmaker Joe Silva in hopes of setting up an official fight in the Octagon.

While these type of personal rivalries usually make for great fights, I’m not sure that Silva will grant a matchup between the rising Guillard and Clementi unless, perhaps, Guillard needs a rebound fight if he loses to Stevenson in April.



Taken from UFCJunkie.com; I wonder what Melvin's deal is...There's just no reason to be out sucker punching people.
fedorwins1
2/28/07 3:50:44PM
Guillard would kill Clemente in an MMA match, but I want to now why these two don't like eachother.
JoeMimic
2/28/07 3:55:17PM

Posted by fedorwins1

Guillard would kill Clemente in an MMA match, but I want to now why these two don't like eachother.



I agree I think like the article says a fight between the two would be a step back for Melvin; unless he loses to Joe Daddy coming up. Melvin would KO No Love.
shawneth
2/28/07 4:17:09PM
Seeing how Guillard would be a candidate for a title shot "IF" he were to beat Stevenson, it would be stupid for him to fight Clementi. That pistol threat sounds like alittle much.
Ydoc
2/28/07 4:30:00PM
Book it... he ain't beating Joe Daddy. The bigger question here is if a feud were a life has been threaten is worth being rewarded with a fight? I don't think so... even go as far as saying Melvin should be suspended from the UFC for acting like a thug.

No Love by restraining order.
Stickan
2/28/07 4:30:42PM
You sure it wasn't "Nexth time I'll hit you with my pithtol"?

I now hope Daddy takes him to school and Clementi subs him when they fight.
pv3Hpv3p
2/28/07 4:33:47PM
That's a shame... Really makes Melvin seem like a gangster or thug or something... No need for any of that shit...

Why sucker punch a guy you could steamroll in a fight?

Why talk about brining guns into it?

I like Melvin as a fighter, too bad he doesn't have much class
Dadaman
2/28/07 4:35:29PM
That sort of thuggish and primitive behavior doesn't surprise me from Guillard.

Clementi should have pushed his shit in. That threat seemed totally whack, Guillard doesn't want to end his career that way.
OchoCinco
2/28/07 6:03:47PM
Question for the mods? Why is crap like this allowed to stay posted. This is just someone running there mouth about rumors. If this happened why wasn't Guillard arrested for assault and threatening? These boards are full of to much crap like this. Just worry what these guys do in the ring unless there is actually a published report about an arrest or something that's actually incriminating.
JoeMimic
2/28/07 6:10:46PM

Posted by OchoCinco

Question for the mods? Why is crap like this allowed to stay posted. This is just someone running there mouth about rumors. If this happened why wasn't Guillard arrested for assault and threatening? These boards are full of to much crap like this. Just worry what these guys do in the ring unless there is actually a published report about an arrest or something that's actually incriminating.



UFCJunkie.com is a pretty good source; it clearly states Guillard was ejected from the building. Clementi doesn't seem like the type to call the poilice and report something like that it doesn't solve much. He'd rather get the chance to knock him out legally with no reprocussions.
pv3Hpv3p
2/28/07 6:25:55PM

Posted by OchoCinco

Question for the mods? Why is crap like this allowed to stay posted. This is just someone running there mouth about rumors. If this happened why wasn't Guillard arrested for assault and threatening? These boards are full of to much crap like this. Just worry what these guys do in the ring unless there is actually a published report about an arrest or something that's actually incriminating.



If you don't like the thread simply don't post...

IMO, it's nice to have something to talk about inbetween events and after when a couple of ideas are being beaten to death.

While threads about Gomi/Diaz and Hendo's next fight are necessary and great conversation, they start to flood the boards and that doesn't really help in centralizing a discussion either...

It's what happens when as these things get more populated.... IMO, Sooner or later the topics get beaten to death, and people just want something else to bullshit about.
hippysmacker
2/28/07 6:35:08PM

Posted by OchoCinco

Question for the mods? Why is crap like this allowed to stay posted. This is just someone running there mouth about rumors. If this happened why wasn't Guillard arrested for assault and threatening? These boards are full of to much crap like this. Just worry what these guys do in the ring unless there is actually a published report about an arrest or something that's actually incriminating.



I moved this to the MMA lounge becase of all the complaints about it. To be fair the source is usually credible, but I'll move it to the forum for fantasy matchup to see if further confirmation is on the way.I'm not saying it's true or not, just that UFC junkie usually has good info.
Ydoc
2/28/07 6:38:33PM
I'm just interested, when has UFC junkie posted something that wasn't true? Not trying to stick up for them, I just can't think of a time since I started visiting there.
waylon_o
2/28/07 6:42:44PM
I think it was a good post...if people don't like it, don't read it. But as for Guillard...that's pretty lame. He tried to act like a thug on the show, so maybe he's not acting. I didn't like him on the show, but I have grown to like watching him fight because he's exciting and so powerful. I would hate to put him in the same book with Leben, Herman, and Diaz (as in too much crap-talking and I want to see them lose every single time they fight)
JoeMimic
2/28/07 7:17:04PM
Thanks for the support guys; I felt it was a very justified post as well; it's only a matter of time before this hits a bigger MMA sites front page and then there will be 40 new posts on it and those will be okay and not moved.
Jamie98s
2/28/07 7:28:32PM
Man I hope Joe daddy tears every limb off his body
Manfred
3/1/07 12:42:41AM
Not surprised at this at all that this is coming out. There have been threads about this from other forums since last weekend. Some started by eyewitnesses.

There was probably no arrest because Clementi didn't press charges.
madmarck
3/1/07 5:46:27AM

Guillard punched him in the face but didn’t noticeably hurt him.

Thats because you can see internal bleeding. Melivn could KO Rich in a fight with ease. Everything Rich does Melvin does better,
EEKS
3/1/07 7:27:43AM
Melvin's bad for the sport
waylon_o
3/1/07 8:02:02AM

Posted by EEKS

Melvin's bad for the sport


Amen to that.
FutureLWchamp
3/1/07 8:27:45AM
this cant be true or sumthins left out of it cuz melvin would've knocked him out. if he could knock clementi out in a fight then a sucker punch is pretty much a guarranteed KO. n melvin attracts a whole new crowd to the sport so hes not bad for it.
madmarck
3/1/07 8:58:29AM

Posted by waylon_o


Posted by EEKS

Melvin's bad for the sport


Amen to that.


How is a fighter that is exciting to watch bad for the sport? Because he got into a fight outside of the sport.

Face it guys. In a sport where people fight for a living. Not everyone is gonna be the clean cut sharp lookin Rich Franklin, or the most dominatn nice guy in the world GSP.
So him Melvin not liking Rich is bad for the sport? I think it is good. Provides excitement for a fight. If 2 fighters dislike\hate each other they will be willing to go all out in a fight in order to win. Thats what makes some fights just so dam good.
Stickan
3/1/07 9:35:26AM

Posted by madmarck


Everything Rich does Melvin does better,


Ehh... No.

Guillard can't grapple worth a shit and that's where Clementi is good. Melvin is a better striker and a better wrestler but Rich takes Melvin to thcool when it comes to grappling.
FutureLWchamp
3/1/07 9:46:34AM

Posted by madmarck


Posted by waylon_o


Posted by EEKS

Melvin's bad for the sport


Amen to that.


How is a fighter that is exciting to watch bad for the sport? Because he got into a fight outside of the sport.

Face it guys. In a sport where people fight for a living. Not everyone is gonna be the clean cut sharp lookin Rich Franklin, or the most dominatn nice guy in the world GSP.
So him Melvin not liking Rich is bad for the sport? I think it is good. Provides excitement for a fight. If 2 fighters dislike\hate each other they will be willing to go all out in a fight in order to win. Thats what makes some fights just so dam good.



i agree, some people expect fighters to be perfect outside the ring or octagon. their human guys, c'mon
waylon_o
3/1/07 10:18:19AM
If a guy of that calibre is talking about bringing guns into the situation, that's bad for the sport. That's bull****. And a sucker punch? I'm not saying all of that is true, but if it is, that's messed up.
FutureLWchamp
3/1/07 10:40:13AM
ya the gun thing is retarded but i really dont believe a sucker punch happened then they squarred off n got broken up... not likely man
madmarck
3/1/07 10:41:02AM

Posted by Stickan


Posted by madmarck


Everything Rich does Melvin does better,


Ehh... No.

Guillard can't grapple worth a shit and that's where Clementi is good. Melvin is a better striker and a better wrestler but Rich takes Melvin to thcool when it comes to grappling.



So why couldnt Josh Burkamn Finish him on TUF?
Melvin is far better than you think. And he trains with team punishment, They happen to have a few good wrestlers.

And i dont know if Melvin carries a gun. And in a confrontation, people tlak shit. Everyone talks smack. It happens.
waylon_o
3/1/07 10:41:21AM
I'm skeptical too...I'm sure there's more to it, but I just based that opinion off the information we were given.
madmarck
3/1/07 11:19:19AM

Posted by waylon_o

I'm skeptical too...I'm sure there's more to it, but I just based that opinion off the information we were given.


i dont doubt that Rich might not like Melvin but who knows exactly waht they said. And who knows about if Melvin really wants to hurt Rich or he was jsut talk.

Remember from TUF that Melvin talked a lot of smack?
hippysmacker
3/2/07 11:19:46PM

Posted by madmarck


Posted by waylon_o

I'm skeptical too...I'm sure there's more to it, but I just based that opinion off the information we were given.


i dont doubt that Rich might not like Melvin but who knows exactly waht they said. And who knows about if Melvin really wants to hurt Rich or he was jsut talk.

Remember from TUF that Melvin talked a lot of smack?



I think they are both a little cocky, but if Melvin suckered him that's cowardly IMO.They are both fighter's, unless for some strange reason Melvin feels he is overmatched, it makes no sense. I would actually like to hear them comment personally on a audio or video interview to find out what's true and what isn't.
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