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Gogoplata
4/9/07 1:44:56PM

Posted by ronco_loid

I dont need a lesson about mma from you. you can ramble on to your cronies on here but dont expect me to listen.



I think the point is, AchillesHeel has validated his statements with fact and statistics while you have said nothing but mindless drivel.
AchillesHeel
4/9/07 2:11:33PM

Posted by ronco_loid

I dont need a lesson about mma from you.


I'll have re-read my posts, I could've sworn I was talking about GSP...


you can ramble on to your cronies on here[...]

I have cronies? Awesome! Fetch me a cappuccino! And Lucy Liu! And be quick about it, I don't have all day!


[...]but dont expect me to listen.

Hey, you're the one who decided to post here. I don't recall twisting your arm to do that. But then again, I don't recall giving anyone a lesson in MMA either, so what do I know..?

AchillesHeel
4/9/07 2:13:05PM

Posted by Rush

That's what I call a GSP beatdown.




ronco = OWNED



Posted by Gogoplata

I think the point is, AchillesHeel has validated his statements with fact and statistics while you have said nothing but mindless drivel.


Thank you, kind sirs.
ronco_loid
4/9/07 4:47:37PM
I hate to break this to everyone but just because he has a Bas Rutten avatar does not make him Bas Rutten.
AchillesHeel
4/9/07 5:02:43PM
ronco_loid is right. I am not Bas Rutten. It's a burden I've had to live with every day of my life. Truth is, I was born not Bas Rutten. I try not to blame my parents. I know they wanted me to be Bas Rutten. It's just not that easy, is it? Some people are Bas Rutten and some people aren't.
ronco_loid
4/9/07 5:09:38PM
This is what would happen if you ever met Bas Rutten. He would be like shut up whiney emo kid.
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nubby
4/9/07 5:19:14PM
GSP lost to Matt Serra. HAHAHA! All I can say is you are only as good as your last fight.
AchillesHeel
4/9/07 5:48:07PM

Posted by ronco_loid

This is what would happen if you ever met Bas Rutten. He would be like shut up whiney emo kid.


Get. A. Grip.


Posted by nubby

GSP lost to Matt Serra. HAHAHA! All I can say is you are only as good as your last fight.


Okay, you've convinced me.

Convinced me not to pay any attention to any of your opinions, that is.
Gogoplata
4/9/07 5:50:35PM

Posted by nubby

GSP lost to Matt Serra. HAHAHA! All I can say is you are only as good as your last fight.



Look out, here comes the Tito nuthugger.
nubby
4/9/07 5:51:33PM

Posted by AchillesHeel


Posted by ronco_loid

This is what would happen if you ever met Bas Rutten. He would be like shut up whiney emo kid.


Get. A. Grip.


Posted by nubby

GSP lost to Matt Serra. HAHAHA! All I can say is you are only as good as your last fight.


Okay, you've convinced me.

Convinced me not to pay any attention to any of your opinions, that is.


Mission accomplished.
Gogoplata
4/9/07 5:51:44PM

Posted by ronco_loid

I hate to break this to everyone but just because he has a Bas Rutten avatar does not make him Bas Rutten.



Wait a second. You're not Sub Zero either? Godammit, I had my hopes up.

WAR GSP!
pv3Hpv3p
4/9/07 7:50:27PM

Posted by AchillesHeel


Posted by ronco_loid

I dont need a lesson about mma from you.


I'll have re-read my posts, I could've sworn I was talking about GSP...


you can ramble on to your cronies on here[...]

I have cronies? Awesome! Fetch me a cappuccino! And Lucy Liu! And be quick about it, I don't have all day!


[...]but dont expect me to listen.

Hey, you're the one who decided to post here. I don't recall twisting your arm to do that. But then again, I don't recall giving anyone a lesson in MMA either, so what do I know..?




AchilliesHeel, don't bother with these people, while the arguement was fun to read it's obvious that you are arguing with a youngster that doesn't have much grounds for his opinions and doesn't see a reason he needs any...

Good post on St. Pierre, I like how you broke down some big name fighters and where they were at his age, and good stats over all...

I guess the only thing that anyone could really argue about is that you are not Bas Rutten?? And by that line of reasoning he is a video game character??

Wow...
pv3Hpv3p
4/9/07 7:52:12PM

Posted by nubby

GSP lost to Matt Serra. HAHAHA! All I can say is you are only as good as your last fight.



That's too bad for:

Tito
Gomi
Wandy
Arona
Lil Nog

Sorry, the list could go on but I'm getting tired of listing all these cans
iwannabesedated
4/9/07 8:00:14PM

Posted by Gogoplata


Posted by ronco_loid

I hate to break this to everyone but just because he has a Bas Rutten avatar does not make him Bas Rutten.



Wait a second. You're not Sub Zero either? Godammit, I had my hopes up.

WAR GSP!




If he was sub-zero you would get alittle taste of the Hold LP, B, B, D, F


on a side note GSP for Prez...nah...i think GWB....would own him....

To Canada with love

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WINK101AH
4/9/07 11:35:31PM
The only reason GSP didn't lose 6 months earlier is because he slipped on some sweat.
ronco_loid
4/9/07 11:53:26PM
I agree with you wink.




Nacho
4/10/07 1:03:28AM

Posted by ronco_loid

I agree with you wink.






Don't use your finishing move Sub Z
iwannabesedated
4/20/07 3:10:21PM

Posted by Rush


Posted by AchillesHeel

Okay, apparently I still need to educate some people around here...


GSP turns 26 years old in about a month. He's 13-2 overall, 7-2 in the UFC, and has already won a title fight, in convincing fashion.

He thoroughly dominated a couple of excellent fighters, and has gone toe-to-toe with two guys considered to be among the best ever, and defeated both of them.

GSP was never fed a "can" by the UFC, to generate hype and build him up for a title fight. His UFC debut was against Karo Parisyan, who was 10-2, and had already won a UFC fight, a convincing 1st-rnd submission of Dave Strasser. If anything, GSP was being fed to Parisyan, to build him up for a title shot.


Some statistics:

- Coming into fights against GSP, his opponents had a collective professional record of 172-40-6, for an .811 winning percentage.

- Including fights against GSP and all subsequent fights, GSP's opponents have a collective, career pro record of 249-77-6, a .764 winning percentage.

- GSP's UFC opponents have a combined record of 39-12-1 in the UFC, not including their matches against GSP himself (a .765 winning percentage).

(Note that I counted Matt Hughes's record - his only repeat opponent - only once for each of the above calculations. Winning percentages only account for Wins and Losses and do not include Draws.)


When Matt Hughes was 26, he was 8-1 and had just made his UFC debut, with a Decision win over the might Valeri Ignatov. He was 23 fights away from winning his first UFC title fight. (Incidentally, Hughes had 10 fights in 2000 and 9 in 2001 - that's insane.)

When Chuck Liddell was 26, he was 3 years away from making his professional debut. Maybe he was still in college, I have no idea.

When Rich Franklin was 26, he was teaching a high school math class.

When Fedor Emelianenko was 26, he was 10-1 and had just made his Pride FC debut, with a Decision win over the mighty Semmy Schilt.

When Sean Sherk was 26, he was 2-0 and was more than a year from making his UFC debut.

When Anderson Silva was 26, he was 4-1 and was about a year away from making his Pride FC debut.





That's what I call a GSP beatdown.




ronco = OWNED




wow.thats alot of statistics and Knowledge...ive came to the conclusion that NO MAN..should ever know that much about DUDES...unless you love the dudes...you can quote and say your statistics but all it takes is 1 punch and anyone can beat anyone...so statistics and all these facts and stuff really dont mean crap...i think you have way too much time on your hands...maybe u should get a girlfriend or a pet..
p_unit23
4/20/07 4:24:35PM
GSP ALL THE WAY!!!
Rush
4/22/07 7:17:21PM
Since I don't want to reply to ALL the threads about the GSP Serra fight I'll just spill the beans here.


I just got back from a GSP seminar and he gave us the scoop on why he lost.

1. He did not slip in his fight
2. He did not tap in his fight - he said he was dazed from strikes
3. He feels he lost to Serra because he only trained 2 weeks prior to this fight (because of his knee injury). He felt he over trained during those 2 weeks and didn't feel relaxed. He didn't feel relaxed physically (due to over training) and he wasn't relaxed mentally (he didn't feel that he was properly prepared for the fight)
4. He doesn't know who he is fighting next.

There you have it. So unless he lied, there's the scoop.

BTW, the seminar was pretty good for 100$
AchillesHeel
4/23/07 12:07:37PM

Posted by 40ouncetofreedom

wow.thats alot of statistics and Knowledge...ive came to the conclusion that NO MAN..should ever know that much about DUDES...unless you love the dudes...you can quote and say your statistics but all it takes is 1 punch and anyone can beat anyone...so statistics and all these facts and stuff really dont mean crap...i think you have way too much time on your hands...maybe u should get a girlfriend or a pet..


Passive-aggressive homophobia, anti-intellectualism, ignorance, and mild anti-social personality disorder, all in one neat post. Well done. Your parents must be proud.

AchillesHeel
4/23/07 12:23:40PM

Posted by Rush

Since I don't want to reply to ALL the threads about the GSP Serra fight I'll just spill the beans here.


I just got back from a GSP seminar and he gave us the scoop on why he lost.

1. He did not slip in his fight
2. He did not tap in his fight - he said he was dazed from strikes
3. He feels he lost to Serra because he only trained 2 weeks prior to this fight (because of his knee injury). He felt he over trained during those 2 weeks and didn't feel relaxed. He didn't feel relaxed physically (due to over training) and he wasn't relaxed mentally (he didn't feel that he was properly prepared for the fight)
4. He doesn't know who he is fighting next.

There you have it. So unless he lied, there's the scoop.

BTW, the seminar was pretty good for 100$


I don't have it now, but I read a quote from one of Serra's trainers that the extra time due to GSP's injury really helped Serra. He said that Serra really "turned a corner" in his boxing. Not so much in his technique or anything physical, but in his mental ability to feel confident in his standup game. Serra himself mentioned in the post-fight interview that he had to remind himself not to fall back on his jiu-jitsu training and follow GSP to the ground after knocking him down. Instead, he was able to keep his composure and pursue the knockout.

GSP's admission that he didn't slip is just more reason to like him, imho. He's a classy guy, willing to admit that he just got whupped by a guy who was better prepared and the better fighter on the night.

The talk of the town, so to speak, is that GSP may square off with Koscheck. I could watch that.
Rush
4/23/07 1:08:43PM
I forgot to add that he did say that the punch that hit him on the back of the head (behind the ear) really dazed him.
pv3Hpv3p
4/23/07 2:57:03PM

Posted by AchillesHeel


Posted by 40ouncetofreedom

wow.thats alot of statistics and Knowledge...ive came to the conclusion that NO MAN..should ever know that much about DUDES...unless you love the dudes...you can quote and say your statistics but all it takes is 1 punch and anyone can beat anyone...so statistics and all these facts and stuff really dont mean crap...i think you have way too much time on your hands...maybe u should get a girlfriend or a pet..



Passive-aggressive homophobia, anti-intellectualism, ignorance, and mild anti-social personality disorder, all in one neat post. Well done. Your parents must be proud.





Damn, Achilles, I will dub that the most visious Fruedian-owning of the month...lol... Ouch
Rush
4/23/07 3:14:09PM

Posted by AchillesHeel



The talk of the town, so to speak, is that GSP may square off with Koscheck. I could watch that.



Georges joked in saying that most of the time he finds out who his next opponent will be via the internet.
AchillesHeel
4/23/07 3:21:40PM

Posted by pv3Hpv3p

Damn, Achilles, I will dub that the most visious Fruedian-owning of the month...lol... Ouch


Heh. Too harsh? I hadn't eaten lunch yet.


Posted by Rush

Georges joked in saying that most of the time he finds out who his next opponent will be via the internet.


That might be a fun gimmick, actually, if Dana White ever runs out of crazy ideas: Get some fighters to agree to a "mystery card" and then let the fans vote for the matchups on the web site.

Anyway, I'd like to see GSP get right back in the saddle with a "real" opponent, instead of being fed some UFC newbie he's supposed to beat. [EDIT: That is, I think Kos would be a challenge, and not a "can."]
Rush
4/23/07 3:46:07PM
Please don't give Dana any more crazy ideas.
iwannabesedated
4/23/07 8:23:04PM

Posted by pv3Hpv3p


Posted by AchillesHeel


Posted by 40ouncetofreedom

wow.thats alot of statistics and Knowledge...ive came to the conclusion that NO MAN..should ever know that much about DUDES...unless you love the dudes...you can quote and say your statistics but all it takes is 1 punch and anyone can beat anyone...so statistics and all these facts and stuff really dont mean crap...i think you have way too much time on your hands...maybe u should get a girlfriend or a pet..



Passive-aggressive homophobia, anti-intellectualism, ignorance, and mild anti-social personality disorder, all in one neat post. Well done. Your parents must be proud.





Damn, Achilles, I will dub that the most visious Fruedian-owning of the month...lol... Ouch




Me owned...haha yeah...thatll be the day...this guy has Bas Rutten for his avatar and comes on here spewing all these facts like he is Bas Rutten or an MMA GURU.Im just making a point...that you got way too much time on your hands to take this stuff so seriously..and OH MY GOD I GOT OWNED A MESSAGE BOARD..ILL NEVER SHOW MY FACE AGAIN..HAHAHA...IM SOO ASHAMED SOME GUY ON THE MESSAGE BOARD OWNED ME..what do you consider owning...maybe i am homophobic...maybe im not intellectual...but point in case..your ramblings on here with at stats and stuff...really dont mean anything.now your diagnosing me in your last thread..good job DR Phil...your parents must be proud.
russ_95670
4/25/07 2:09:30AM
GSP is WAY overrated!!!!!!!!!! the guy cant even defend his title once successfully and just because he throws some wild kicks and punches everyone loves him. hughes is a dick but hes better than GSP and hughes will make him tap if they meet again.
Northrend
4/25/07 3:34:03AM

Posted by russ_95670

GSP is WAY overrated!!!!!!!!!! the guy cant even defend his title once successfully and just because he throws some wild kicks and punches everyone loves him. hughes is a dick but hes better than GSP and hughes will make him tap if they meet again.



Last time I watched the GSP-Hughes fight GSP DESTROYED HIM. PURE DOMINATION. If anything GSP will make Hughes tap like BJ did. That is if he can get past Serra which I doubt (Hughes that is)
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