Gonzaga VS. Carwin.....

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PeteD
3/7/09 2:03:39PM
I'm taking Carwin in this fight. Look at who Gonzaga has fought, the only top-level striker he has fought is Cro-Cop, and many will say he's going past his prime. Couture isn't really a top level striker, but more of a workhorse who played a smart game. Other than that, Gonzaga has only faced submission artists who aren't nearly up to his level.

Carwin has a solid wrestling background, which, in addition to his size, will prevent the takedown and keep the fight standing.

Carwin via 1st (T)KO.
Dragoslav
3/8/09 6:32:27AM
Well it was a good but quick fight. Fight played out pretty much as I anticipated. Gonzaga was controlling the fight. He was displaying that he was both the better striker and the better grappler. He rocked Carwin early and even managed to get a takedown on someone who should have been the superior wrestler. However Carwin managed to get back to his feet and then Gonzaga got a bit overeager and let his concentration slip for a second. That was all it took. I won't say lucky or fluke because I hate it when people use those terms. However I will say that I would still pick Gonzaga in a rematch. Hats off to Carwin though. A win over Gonzaga is a good win.
Franklinfan47
3/8/09 1:44:34PM
Very impressive KO win. And the rise of Shane Carwin begins
disorderlyvision
3/8/09 2:49:29PM

Posted by mkiv9secsupra


Posted by jiujitsufreak74
dannyfrank is right
0 acceleration = constant velocity
0 acceleration = 0 force


the faster your hand is accelerating the more force you exert
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------.



Bingo! we have an idiot on the site!




his name is Mkiv9secsupra!!

ha i just looked it up in my old physics books from a few years ago! thank god that wasnt on my asvab

props for jjfreak and danny for pointing out the reatard lol



Why are you calling him a retard when you had to look it up yourself
disorderlyvision
3/8/09 2:51:12PM

Posted by kaduey

I guarantee Gonzaga wins by KO in the first round.



Clairvoyant, you are not...
cmill21
3/8/09 2:59:36PM
I'm done picking GG against anyone other then cans.
tmas
3/8/09 3:16:03PM
you may all prop me now for my long term Carwin wins stance ;p
Solidus
3/8/09 3:21:26PM

Posted by cmill21

I'm done picking GG against anyone other then cans.



Same here. Carwin wasnt all that impressive either, which is going to make him a hard pick in the future...Id hate to pick between him and Cain Valesquez.

Anyway Gonzaga shouldnt have clinched when he had Carwin hurt, he may have had better luck if he kept pouring it on with strikes or maybe a big kick after he was stunned.
Wolfenstein
3/8/09 3:35:01PM
Let's not unload off the Gonzaga bandwagon just yet guys. Granted it was only a couple minutes, but up until the KO, GG was winning that fight. Stand by him and you won't be dissapointed.
higdon10
3/8/09 3:59:59PM
I havent quit on Gonzaga yet. He looked good leading up to the KO.
Dragoslav
3/8/09 7:05:36PM
I still think Gonzaga is the better fighter. He just let his concentration slip for a second and went down.
cmill21
3/8/09 7:24:07PM
I think he's a one hit wonder. I've never thought him to be top notch and I still don't. He's big, strong and he's got a ton going for him, he's just missing the intangibles that make talented fighters great fighters.
nickcuc547
3/8/09 7:46:09PM

Posted by cmill21

I think he's a one hit wonder. I've never thought him to be top notch and I still don't. He's big, strong and he's got a ton going for him, he's just missing the intangibles that make talented fighters great fighters.



he has two gaping holes in his game that for some reason he hasn't improved, those being his sloppy standup and gas tank. He has all the tools to be a champion and he hasn't put them all together yet. I'm hoping it's just taking him a little while to develop but he reminds me a lot of joe stevenson, very good fighter but he is what he is, hasn't evolved or improved his game over the years, if we see the improvement he could be back in the title picture, if not he is just a gate keeper.
cmill21
3/8/09 8:31:21PM

Posted by nickcuc547


Posted by cmill21

I think he's a one hit wonder. I've never thought him to be top notch and I still don't. He's big, strong and he's got a ton going for him, he's just missing the intangibles that make talented fighters great fighters.



he has two gaping holes in his game that for some reason he hasn't improved, those being his sloppy standup and gas tank. He has all the tools to be a champion and he hasn't put them all together yet. I'm hoping it's just taking him a little while to develop but he reminds me a lot of joe stevenson, very good fighter but he is what he is, hasn't evolved or improved his game over the years, if we see the improvement he could be back in the title picture, if not he is just a gate keeper.



The only fight he's ever had that made me go, hey this guy is good was the Cro Cop fight, other then that i've never thought "hey this guy could be a champ".
Aaronno9
3/8/09 8:37:41PM
I thought he looked really good early in the Werdum fight when he was unleashing those vicous leg kicks. I think theres always one or two points in his fights where he looks awesome, then the rest of the time he looks like he doesnt really know what hes doing in the cage. I guess only time will tell as to whether hes ever going to be a force in the division.
gartface
3/9/09 12:54:19AM

Posted by cmill21

I think he's a one hit wonder. I've never thought him to be top notch and I still don't. He's big, strong and he's got a ton going for him, he's just missing the intangibles that make talented fighters great fighters.


His head movement is atrocious. He would get demolished by the winner of Hardonk/Kongo, who I think he will end up fighting next.
jiujitsufreak74
3/9/09 1:23:32AM

Posted by gartface


Posted by cmill21

I think he's a one hit wonder. I've never thought him to be top notch and I still don't. He's big, strong and he's got a ton going for him, he's just missing the intangibles that make talented fighters great fighters.


His head movement is atrocious. He would get demolished by the winner of Hardonk/Kongo, who I think he will end up fighting next.



well Hardonk has absolutely atrocious head movement as well so i don't really know if he would.
Pookie
3/9/09 5:40:41AM

Posted by disorderlyvision


Posted by mkiv9secsupra


Posted by jiujitsufreak74
dannyfrank is right
0 acceleration = constant velocity
0 acceleration = 0 force


the faster your hand is accelerating the more force you exert
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------.



Bingo! we have an idiot on the site!




his name is Mkiv9secsupra!!

ha i just looked it up in my old physics books from a few years ago! thank god that wasnt on my asvab

props for jjfreak and danny for pointing out the reatard lol



Why are you calling him a retard when you had to look it up yourself



hes calling himself a retard
Jackelope
3/9/09 8:48:38AM

Posted by Pookie


Posted by disorderlyvision


Posted by mkiv9secsupra


Posted by jiujitsufreak74
dannyfrank is right
0 acceleration = constant velocity
0 acceleration = 0 force


the faster your hand is accelerating the more force you exert
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------.



Bingo! we have an idiot on the site!




his name is Mkiv9secsupra!!

ha i just looked it up in my old physics books from a few years ago! thank god that wasnt on my asvab

props for jjfreak and danny for pointing out the reatard lol



Why are you calling him a retard when you had to look it up yourself



hes calling himself a retard



Confused the hell out of me, too I nearly gave Mki9 a ban for insulting another member, LMAO
mkiv9secsupra
3/9/09 9:53:09AM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie


Posted by disorderlyvision


Posted by mkiv9secsupra


Posted by jiujitsufreak74
dannyfrank is right
0 acceleration = constant velocity
0 acceleration = 0 force


the faster your hand is accelerating the more force you exert
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------.



Bingo! we have an idiot on the site!

his name is Mkiv9secsupra!!

ha i just looked it up in my old physics books from a few years ago! thank god that wasnt on my asvab

props for jjfreak and danny for pointing out the reatard lol



Why are you calling him a retard when you had to look it up yourself



hes calling himself a retard



Confused the hell out of me, too I nearly gave Mki9 a ban for insulting another member, LMAO



ha yeah luckily i didnt do anything stupid, i was heavily intoxicated off of some home brew lol, but i think i hadnt even had a threat of being banned for a year probly.
State_Champ
3/9/09 2:27:21PM
the thing that really makes me take a step back for the TV and just admire it iduring fights was the way Carwin's punches seem to carry soooo much power even without much of a wind-up. Carwim barely cocked his fist when he KOed Gonzaga. If you watch Rampage or Chuck or Anderson Silva or Lesnar they all visibly throw very hard punches while Carwin seems so nonchalant.

just something i thought.

however, i also think that unless Carwin improves A TON then he probably won't go on to demolish the division. i think he definitely needs to quit his job and become a full time fighter if he wants to try and beat the best.
Dragoslav
3/10/09 1:27:04PM
I think anyone picking Gonzaga to lose against either Kongo or Hardonk is really reaching for straws. Sure, Gonzaga likes to strike but I don't think he's going to try and trade with either of those guys when they both have a non-existant ground game.

As far as Gonzaga's flaws, I can sum them up in two words. SHITTY CAMP. He needs to get the hell away from Team Link. They've taken him as far as they can, now he needs to go find some world class training partners.
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