Posted by nate22
Posted by hippysmacker
I think Pride has a more proven against eachother lightweight division. I'm not saying they are worth their ranking or not,but they are more established. If I had to rank the Lightweights( and i might as well since wew are all discussing this)
1. Penn(If he wants to stay at that weigh)
2. Kid Yammamoto
8Aa Shaolin 8b.Steveson
15a. Guillard 15b. Ishida
No disrespect, but you know Sakurai is top 3. Kid is at 145lbs, never fought a ranked LW.
Sherk can't beat you're no. 13 and walk straight into No.3 above Melendez who has just beaten Kawijiri (top5)
No disrespect taken or offered. I just disagree with you on some things. Most rankings are taken from a panel of editors , journalist, fighters, ex-fighters or a combination thereof. Who knows what there personal, feelings, relationships, favors, paybacks, or motivations are but them and God. I'll never forget Trigg being ranked #2 in the world at welterweight and some claiming he was#1(5-8 at his best in my estimation) . Not everyone knows that he was a close friend of Ryan Bennet(MMA Weekly founder) ,friends with many of the other voers , and one of the people who vote. Most journalist (especially in sports) have people who feed them inside info, grant interviews, etc. for favorable coverage and favors. Heck, anyitme Bill Parcells wants something said without actually saying it, Chris Mortensen(espn) and Peter King(SI) will give one of their insider reports from a "Unnamed very close to the situation source"(I.E. Parcells) . I think Sakarai is overated and on the downside of his career. I think the the beating Hughes put on him , would probably look similiar to a fight between Sherk and Sakarai. Sherk Has better standup +faster shots(than Hughes), and is hard to submit(by virtue of his short limbs and strenghth), Also, Sherk Did beat my #13 (Florian) , who is now slouch, and he beat him convincingly. Any guy with good jujtsu and a good chin can generally prolong a fight, even when taking a beating.Otherwise Big Nog , Royce and many others would not have some of the wins they have. I still beleive Kid is the most gifted fighter LB. for LB in the world, and it wasn't that long ago Melendez was fighting at 145. This is all speculation , NO ONE can say who would beat who till they fight. We are all just sharing opinions. I really think it's logical to hypothesize a guy who was top 5 at a higher weight for a long time being top 3 at a lighter one. Some people will agree ,and some won't. Hopefully all these guys can fight eachother some day and we will know unequivocally who would beat who.