Gomi's UFC field trip?

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NutBar
1/16/07 12:38:38PM
http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/01/15/report-gomi-heading-to-ufc/

IMO if this did happen Gomi would be a wrecking ball in the 155lb division. Would Pride really get much out of it though? I mean, it's not like UFC is going to promote his Pride history or something like that if he steps into the cage. Sure, some UFC-only fans might take interest in this guy's origins and get turned on to Pride fighting, but most serious MMA fans will already know who this guy is, and the others that have UFC tunnel vision aren't gonna care either way.

On the plus side though... it's nice to see a bit of inter-organizational fights. If UFC and Pride made trading fighters for a fight or two a more regular thing it would be a win-win and make soooo many fans happy. Fedor vs Tim Sylvia anyone? lol Wandy vs Chuck? Maybe even Filho vs Franklin or Silva? Aoki vs Penn?
cowcatcher
1/16/07 12:44:24PM
we'll see if it really happens but i think it can only hurt pride, plus guys like sherk, fisher, and guillard have a great shot against him, and though i cant believe im saying this, guillard probably has the best due to his athleticism and power, i hope he does come and the reason i didnt mention BJ is that his fight with pulver is supposed to be a 1 time at 155 thing otherwise u have to say he beats gomi
thepitbull00
1/16/07 2:41:54PM
I think a Gomi versus Guillard fight would be the best matchup. I think they could put on a really good war and it would really shake up the lightweight division.
loller90278
1/16/07 3:34:45PM
gomi will now murder bj IMHO..
guillard v gomi would be an entertaining fight
zephead
1/16/07 6:11:51PM
I think Sherk will be to fast and strong for Gomi.
LazyHorse
1/16/07 7:40:31PM
Gomi vs gulliard would not be a war it would be a one sided match.. I dunno how you people can match up gulliard with the champ of pride, its just way different skill level, gulliard is TUF level and gomi is ranked #1 in the world at 165....... hmmmm
hippysmacker
1/17/07 1:20:21PM
I think Gomi would lose to both Sherk and Penn. Their styles are bad for him. I don't think this will happen anyway. Now that pride wants a US presence they might actually agree to this . If they could get a Guillard , Fisher , willing to standup type guy against Gomi it would be smart. If they want to send one guy over and be sure of a victory it should be Fedor. Fedor is already the closest thing to unbeatable in MMA. Throw in a cage to pin someo e aganist and elbows and it would be over for whover the UFC threw in there. If it was just champ against Champ I beleive Chuck beats Wandy. Hendo vs A.Silva goes either way and Sherk keeps Gomi grounded the whole fight. If they really want to throw the dice to get more US exposure to the casual fan, the smart thing is to send Fedor. However , since any possibility of helping Pride would be stupid for them I don't think we will see it.
aceprone
1/18/07 2:18:11PM
I don't understand why Sean Sherk is underratted by most mma fans in the lightweight divison. The only two losses in his carreer are from two of the top fighters in the world who are bigger then him. Anyone else in the 170 division is not going to run through him. There's no one in the 155 division that has been in the wars he has and has fought the caliber fighters he has. The man has great hands hand speed (better then hughes), and an excellent ground game. Watch him fight Nick Diaz, the man is a monster and will soon be considered in the top 3 of 155, personally speaking to me, he is one of the top 3. I say Sherk takes Gomi by a decisive uniamous decision.
hippysmacker
1/18/07 2:23:01PM
Agreeed Sherk By ground'N'pound for 5 rounds
cowcatcher
1/18/07 2:58:42PM
i think that with the time off pre-florian fight people forgot about him and how many wins he had, and even in losing to hughes, at that point he looked as good as anyone had against the champ
nate22
1/19/07 7:31:04AM

Posted by LazyHorse

Gomi vs gulliard would not be a war it would be a one sided match.. I dunno how you people can match up gulliard with the champ of pride, its just way different skill level, gulliard is TUF level and gomi is ranked #1 in the world at 165....... hmmmm



Thank you lazyhorse, it's really disappointing to see such comments about Gomi, Guillard has never fought a top ten competitior, the closest to it, Neer, he lost too.

But yea guys I'm sure he could beat Gomi, undisputed number one LW in the world.
nate22
1/19/07 7:34:52AM
Sherk is not over or under rated, he simply hasn' t fought enough top competition and when he has, he has lost. He has spent too much of his time fighting lower tier opponents. Now he has the chance to prove himself in the LW division and he is a monster at 155, will be nice to see how he gets on in the future.
Gladiator
1/19/07 12:00:44PM
ok, Gomi is def the #1 in the world but when's the last time he fought anybody with athleticism like guillard? The guy is obviously stronger and faster physically than gomi is, needless to say gomi would probably win but i think u cant say that it wouldnt be a good fight.
nate22
1/19/07 12:09:00PM
I didn't say it wouldn't be a good fight, any fight with Gomi in it and someone as exciting as Guillard, could never be a bad fight. I'm not disputing that.

I am disputing Melvin's credentials to step into the same ring as Gomi. And in answer to your stronger/faster question (which I think is a very stupid point to make, as it obviosuly makes little difference) Azeredo, J.Silva, Bennet, Sakurai, Kawajiri, Ishida, need I go on?
Gladiator
1/19/07 12:28:45PM
oh yes, u have changed my mind completely. Guys like sakurai and Ishida definitly have the kind of strength and speed guillard has...

All im saying is that u made it sound like guillard wouldnt have a chance, which is really lame cuz u try to pool him in with a bunch of guys who have lost to gomi that have great strengh and speed but no combination thereof, at least not in the way guillard does. and i admit that gomi's skills would probably win out, but not in a fashion they have against other guys. Experience doesnt always beat out raw power
aceprone
1/19/07 12:37:29PM
He only lost to the two top guys. Went the distance with Hughes and yes got distroyed by St. Pierre, but so did Matt Hughes. Sherk has two wins over Karo from back in the day, and also has a win of Nick Diaz. So he can compete with some of the top in the 170 Division, but his body structure is just way to small. So he's going to have problems with guys that are way bigger then him in the weight class, but I don't think anyone else in the weight class can "destroy" him. At the 155 division he is going to slaughter people! No one in that division has the wrestling skill he has, or the power besides Melvin. Sherk is explosive on the ground and has power and speed with his hands. He'll destroy Gomi. He is way to strong for Gomi.
hippysmacker
1/19/07 12:46:55PM
I wouldn't say he got destoryed by St. Pierre. i just think it was a case of George being to big & strong. Agree that he's only lost to the best at 170, and should kick butt at 155. However, I think the reason Gomi would beat Melvin is he has the best Chin I've ever seen on a guy that size. Melvin has more ability than anybody , except maybe St.Perre. Stil, he's stilll young and larning , and we never now how good he can be till he faces top competition .
WaikruMass
1/19/07 1:35:38PM
never happen. ufc has everything to lose and nothing to gain
hippysmacker
1/19/07 1:43:37PM
I agree, they won't do anything that might help Pride get a foothold in the US.
nate22
1/19/07 3:16:40PM

Posted by Gladiator

oh yes, u have changed my mind completely. Guys like sakurai and Ishida definitly have the kind of strength and speed guillard has...

All im saying is that u made it sound like guillard wouldnt have a chance, which is really lame cuz u try to pool him in with a bunch of guys who have lost to gomi that have great strengh and speed but no combination thereof, at least not in the way guillard does. and i admit that gomi's skills would probably win out, but not in a fashion they have against other guys. Experience doesnt always beat out raw power



Ok, yes of course Melvin has a punchers chance, who doesn't?

My point in all of those guys who have come up against Gomi have done so by consistently beating fighters from all realms, there are plenty of guys like Melvin across the world. You are trying to make out as if Guillard is some sort of phenom, like i've never seen a fighter who hits hard with hand speed in combination with a solid wrestling backround.

Experience doesn't always beat out raw power, no of course it doesn't, I thought that went without saying. I hope you're not getting pissed with me and the way I chat on about fighters on message boards, it's all banter, it's all good and i'm enjoying discussing the matter with you.
cowcatcher
1/19/07 3:18:27PM
i think the main point about melvin is that he just soooo physically gifted he could make some noise, but gomi is experienced and has beaten the best, still i would like to see that fight as a gauge to see how good melvin can be
nate22
1/19/07 3:27:00PM
I still can't believe we are having such an in depth discussion about Gomi - Melvin.

Melvin - Joe Stevenson/Edwards/Sherk are all better discussion topics, and alot more relevant too.
Gladiator
1/19/07 7:15:20PM
no not pissed off just trying to make a point... obviously one that wasn't worth making.
nate22
1/19/07 7:49:38PM
I might say so and ridicule what you are saying and take the piss or whatever, but this is a discussion forum and really i'm only voicing my opinion in a banterish form. My opinion is worth nothing more than yours and I just like arguing about MMA.

All the best and i'm sure we can clash ( and just maybe even agree!!) on other subjects in the future
MMA
1/19/07 8:25:37PM
This is probably a rumor, I doubt this has any truth to it. Even if it did, White is not stupid enough to let Gomi fight in the UFC (as a Pride fighter). Pride is slowly dying, why would Dana want to give them free publicity?

P.S. I can see Sherk beating Gomi in a 5 round unanimous decision victory. It will probably look something like the Florian fight.
aceprone
1/19/07 10:37:50PM
agreed! Even Joe Stephenson would give Gomi a good run for his money! I personally think the UFC 155 division is the top of the food chain in 155. It's such an indepth division. The UFC also has the man who has beat Gomi, BJ Penn! Can't forget him if he ever returns to the 155 division after he fights Pulver.
nate22
1/19/07 11:04:52PM

Posted by aceprone

Even Joe Stephenson would give Gomi a good run for his money! I personally think the UFC 155 division is the top of the food chain in 155. It's such an indepth division. .





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aceprone
1/20/07 2:44:52AM
you may not agree, but time will prove me right!
hippysmacker
1/20/07 3:30:33AM
I agree with you, anybody with good takedowns and the abilty to keep Gomi down has good shot againsy him. He's not Liddell or cro-cop like with takedown defense.
nate22
1/20/07 7:39:03AM
I'm more so laughing at UFC having a better lightweight division than pride.
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