UFC gatekeepers in each division

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ufc88
3/25/08 7:48:32PM
fighters that i dont think will hold the belt but if a fighter can beat these guys then they are in the top half of the division

lightweight - spencer fisher, din thomas

welterweight - josh burkman, chris lytle

middleweight - chris leben,

light heavyweight - stephan bonnar

heavyweight - nooo idea

help me out what do you all think
BradDC
3/25/08 8:10:02PM
as long as anderson silva is the middleweight champ, rich franklin.
wolfman
3/25/08 8:16:42PM
HW: Gonzaga maybe? Good list, don't know if I agree with Din Thomas though.
jiujitsufreak74
3/25/08 8:41:55PM

Posted by BradDC

as long as anderson silva is the middleweight champ, rich franklin.



ummmm...that logic isn't cut out for this type of question. Rich Franklin is way too talented to be a gatekeeper and is definitely in the top 3 MW. i think he can beat everyone in that division save for Anderson and Henderson although a fight with Henderson would be very interesting. a gatekeeper is someone that is used as a litmus test to see if you are a worthy talent or not. pretty much it is to test whether you are top 10 material or not. Rich Franklin is up in the top echelon of the division so in no way is he a gatekeeper imo. Chris Leben is appropriate for the MW gatekeeper, or maybe even Patrick Cote but Rich franklin is too talented. saying Franklin is a gatekeeper is like saying Big Nog was a gatekeeper when Fedor was champion...just doesn't make sense.
Pookie
3/25/08 8:47:01PM
i think a gate keeper has to be someone that is relatively well rounded, or else the gate keeper can only test a certain type of fighter.

Spencer fisher shouldnt be on there, for that reason.

Din thomas has the talent to beat ALOT of top LW's so i would say hes above that.
chubbud22
3/25/08 8:49:44PM
HW Mabee Heath Hearing
WhiteWidow
3/25/08 8:52:04PM
HW: Kongo, Mir or Hardonk
LH: Lambert, Irvin or Heath
MW: McDonald, Grove, Martin, or Sakara
WW: Burkman, Carneiro, Lytle or Cummo
LW: Bocek, Clementi, Guillard or Robinson
ufc88
3/25/08 8:58:46PM
Hardonk is not a gatekeeper he is not good enough... heath definately not... i strongly agree with mcdonald, maybe grove hes looked really shaky recently, martin definately not i dont even think hes in the ufc anymore, sakara i guess but barely, carneiro and cummo i have to say i disagree... but i agree with bocek and clementi not so much guillard or robinson
WhiteWidow
3/25/08 9:28:52PM

Posted by ufc88

Hardonk is not a gatekeeper he is not good enough... heath definately not... i strongly agree with mcdonald, maybe grove hes looked really shaky recently, martin definately not i dont even think hes in the ufc anymore, sakara i guess but barely, carneiro and cummo i have to say i disagree... but i agree with bocek and clementi not so much guillard or robinson



im not to familiar to the "gatekeeper" term i just went by those who fold or would fold under the top competition more less
Ultimate_fighter
3/25/08 10:03:52PM
Lightweight - Din Thomas
Welterweight - Koschek
Middleweight - Leben
Light Heavyweight - Ortiz or Bonnar
Heavyweight - Sanchez, or Kongo
imanidiot777
3/25/08 10:58:13PM

Posted by Ultimate_fighter

Lightweight - Din Thomas
Welterweight - Koschek
Middleweight - Leben
Light Heavyweight - Ortiz or Bonnar
Heavyweight - Sanchez, or Kongo



Please don't think of Koscheck as a gate keeper he is way too talented for that, deserves a title shot sooner or later.

LW - Din Thomas
WW - ??
MW - Leben or Sakara maybe?
LHW - Gouiveia, Bonnar, Lambert
HW - Sanchez, Herring maybe
candynuts
3/25/08 10:58:59PM
LW: Rich Clementi
WW: Luke Cummo
MW: Chris Leben
LHW: Jason Lambert
HW: Eddie Sanchez?
murphy_16
3/26/08 4:13:41PM
LHW:Rashad evans (sick fighter but division is to tough)
LW:Guillard
WW;diego sanchez (noone will ever beat GSP so doesnt matter)
MW:leben
HW:??
kevietre
3/26/08 6:09:16PM

Posted by candynuts

LW: Rich Clementi
WW: Luke Cummo
MW: Chris Leben
LHW: Jason Lambert
HW: Eddie Sanchez?






Except I would substitute Alessio Sakara for Leben.

F--K_Luck_AuH2O
3/26/08 8:36:43PM
A Gate Keeper by my definition is somebody who is wellrounded, has the ability to crack the top bottom of the top 10 list (9 or 10)...but would never ever be a champion, or top contender in their brand.

LW: Fisher
WW: Lytle
MW: Leben
LHW: Bonnar
HW: Shancez
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