Frank Mir can ‘crush’ Antonio Rodrigo ‘Minotauro’ Nogueira

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MMAcca
11/13/08 1:24:26AM
“I’m 200 times the athlete that he is. I can jump higher, run faster, move quicker, move longer — anything we do that I know just as well as he does I’m going to crush him.”

– Former heavyweight champion Frank Mir compares his athletic ability to that of Antonio Rodrigo “Minotauro” Nogueira after losing the coaches challenge on the latest episode of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) on Spike TV. “Big Nog” scored more goals in a soccer challenge, winning his team members $1,000 each. Mir was clearly upset about the result. He’ll have his chance at redemption in the main event at UFC 92: “The Ultimate 2008? on December 27 when the two Brazilian jiu-jitsu specialists battle for the division title on New Year’s Eve weekend.




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MMAcca
11/13/08 1:25:05AM
ncordless
11/13/08 1:29:29AM
Sure. I think Mir means he can have a crush on Nog.
Wolfenstein
11/13/08 1:42:23AM
I love this season. Better talent, and more entertainment. Mir plays a great cocky villain.
gartface
11/13/08 1:53:19AM

Posted by Wolfenstein

I love this season. Better talent, and more entertainment. Mir plays a great cocky villain.


Too bad his terrible cardio will be called into question, and will be a huge factor in their fight.
voodoo-jitsu
11/13/08 2:24:30AM

Posted by Wolfenstein

I love this season. Better talent, and more entertainment. Mir plays a great cocky villain.

i dont think hes playing
EvenFlow
11/13/08 6:29:54AM
Honestly I see no way Mir can win, a decision if anything and thats highly doubtful with his questionable cardio, hes not ko'ing him and not submitting him.
Pookie
11/13/08 6:32:17AM
Wow, im mad at myself now for missing this episode.
mrsmiley
11/13/08 7:24:52AM
Mir made himself look like an idiot.He will look back on that and hit himself in the head when he hears Nog is a terrible soccer player.
StevenSeagal
11/13/08 8:29:31AM
maybe 1/2 fight promotion, 1/2 actual douche. guess its hard to tell. If a fighter is so flagrantly a douche, then its safe to say hes like that in real life. ie Matt Hughes... If the fighter is mainly douche'ish pre fight or for TV then i'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Frank always seems respectful as a broadcaster and in the interviews i've seen of him...

The quote got people talking about the show and people were pissed they missed it, so mission complete... Lot different than the hillbillies and the comments and overall aura of the Militich team.
jakeiceman
11/13/08 8:37:37AM
I'm picking Mir to win this one, I dont think he will "crush" him by any means but I have some faith in Mir.....fill free to tell me why I shouldnt because I'm mainly going off a hunch.
ohiostate1016
11/13/08 8:42:09AM

Posted by jakeiceman

I'm picking Mir to win this one, I dont think he will "crush" him by any means but I have some faith in Mir.....fill free to tell me why I shouldnt because I'm mainly going off a hunch.



Basically because Mir is a BJJ fighter and not much more. Unfortunately for him, Nog is probably the best pure BJJ fighter in the world. Even more unfortunate for him, Nog is a warrior that has been in some slugfests. But the worst thing for Mir is that Nog will probably mess up his face. Reeeeeal bad.
The_Grim_Reaper
11/13/08 8:59:16AM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by jakeiceman

I'm picking Mir to win this one, I don't think he will "crush" him by any means but I have some faith in Mir.....fill free to tell me why I shouldn't because I'm mainly going off a hunch.



Basically because Mir is a BJJ fighter and not much more. Unfortunately for him, Nog is probably the best pure BJJ fighter in the world. Even more unfortunate for him, Nog is a warrior that has been in some slugfests. But the worst thing for Mir is that Nog will probably mess up his face. Reeeeeal bad.



Nog definitely isn't the best "pure" bjj fighter in the world that title most likely goes to Roger Gracie, although Nog is probably the best fighter to use his bjj in a mma fight, beside that i agree with you on everything.....also my views of mir have completely changed after watching this season, and Nog is just an amazing coach spending time with his team all the time, hes really helped them bond, and just going balls out on that coaches challenge something mir wouldnt even attempt
jakeiceman
11/13/08 9:14:54AM

Posted by The_Grim_Reaper


Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by jakeiceman

I'm picking Mir to win this one, I don't think he will "crush" him by any means but I have some faith in Mir.....fill free to tell me why I shouldn't because I'm mainly going off a hunch.



Basically because Mir is a BJJ fighter and not much more. Unfortunately for him, Nog is probably the best pure BJJ fighter in the world. Even more unfortunate for him, Nog is a warrior that has been in some slugfests. But the worst thing for Mir is that Nog will probably mess up his face. Reeeeeal bad.



Nog definitely isn't the best "pure" bjj fighter in the world that title most likely goes to Roger Gracie, although Nog is probably the best fighter to use his bjj in a mma fight, beside that i agree with you on everything.....also my views of mir have completely changed after watching this season, and Nog is just an amazing coach spending time with his team all the time, hes really helped them bond, and just going balls out on that coaches challenge something mir wouldnt even attempt



I guess I am just hoping that Mir can pull it off. I just like that guy I guess. I was thinking how Mir would win though and his options are limited. Nog is said to have better JJ but Mir has great Jits too. I got thinking that maybe Mir could neautralize the Jits and catch him with a big shot but good hell Nog always takes a beating but some how finds a way to win.

Like I said I'm picking Mir entirely on favortism and a hunch. Its definately not based on anything solid
emfleek
11/13/08 9:53:54AM
I'm watching it now. I love Nog more and more every day.
kopower
11/13/08 9:54:21AM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by jakeiceman

I'm picking Mir to win this one, I dont think he will "crush" him by any means but I have some faith in Mir.....fill free to tell me why I shouldnt because I'm mainly going off a hunch.



Basically because Mir is a BJJ fighter and not much more. Unfortunately for him, Nog is probably the best pure BJJ fighter in the world. Even more unfortunate for him, Nog is a warrior that has been in some slugfests. But the worst thing for Mir is that Nog will probably mess up his face. Reeeeeal bad.



Agreed
If anything the BJJ will cancel each other out and Nog is a better striker than Mir. I see the fight going to later rounds where Mir will gas and get ko'd.
Jackelope
11/13/08 10:10:32AM
Being a huge Frank Mir fan I was quite surprised to hear him say that.

I agree that coordination and most other sports-wise Mir is probably a better athlete, but Nog has that intangible thing that you can not just cast aside. That's his incredible heart and willpower. Oh yeah, and that fricken cast iron chin
emfleek
11/13/08 10:12:45AM
Nog = Al Pacino
Mir = Eric Roberts
jahdoug
11/13/08 11:37:43AM
HAHA i usually have Mir's Back bu he sounded just like all my meathead friends from highschool "i hate soccer, i play football, soccer sucks"
Anyway Mir will be outstruck by Nog's boxing......Nog aint Wes Simms
Sam_Rothstein
11/13/08 11:41:53AM
I really gained a lot of respect for big nog this season, hes a great warm hearted person who is really trying to help these guys make something of themselves.

I start hating Mir more and more each episode though. Mir saying all brazilians play soccer is basically just stereotypical. Thats like saying all blacks play basketball and all mexicans do is box. It also gave me a good chuckle when he got so butt hurt over kyle kingsbury screaming goal at him. That made me happy. I was hoping someone would treat mir disrespectful after all of team mir completely ignored big nog when he was at the house complaining about the pranks all night.

emfleek
11/13/08 11:47:47AM

Posted by Sam_Rothstein

butt hurt





That phrase cracks me up every time.
machodog76
11/13/08 1:10:13PM
Mir got a lucky break against brock, he beat a washed up tank, the only top ten guy he's ever beat that I can think of is tim silvia. Look at their respective records. I'm taking nog late round sub or tko. I've lost alot of respect for mir this season.
xAcidburNx
11/13/08 2:02:57PM
ive always wondered. what exactly are mirs bjj credentials. what titles has he won. what tournaments has he competed in. he came off as an ass when asking where roli got his black belt when im having a hard time myself finding his bjj background. can anyone help me out? a link would be nice
StevenSeagal
11/13/08 3:06:43PM

Posted by xAcidburNx

ive always wondered. what exactly are mirs bjj credentials. what titles has he won. what tournaments has he competed in. he came off as an ass when asking where roli got his black belt when im having a hard time myself finding his bjj background. can anyone help me out? a link would be nice



Ive seen Mir on youtube get lessons from Eddie Bravo and it seemed like he was being taught the rubber guard for the first time. It was a recent video post too I believe. It was a lot of "oh like this?" "Oh i got it now"... I was like hmm BJJ wizard??? Or maybe Joe Rogan just pinned him as a wizard.

My sh*tting on Mir is not all because of the TUF episode, just never been one of my top fighters to watch and follow.
Twenty20Dollars
11/13/08 3:21:26PM
mir is kinda like turning into the matt hughes of TUF.
Frank sucks at soccer he just stood in the middle like uh oh there goes the ball. He sure didnt seem faster tha Nogueria there, Nog was diving and blocking he looked faster than Mir.


Also note, why the f**k was Dave Kaplan wearing a speedo at the soccer game. I mean come on seriously?
zephead
11/13/08 6:09:55PM
I think Mir is stronger then Nog, but Nogs standup is better and his cardio is way better. Nog by KO
jgtribbett
11/13/08 7:06:04PM
i laughed out loud when i heard that. althought.. he may be right.. but that doesnt mean he is a better fighter
scoozna
11/13/08 10:02:18PM
New Mir Interview

He sounded like an ass on the TUF8 episode but sounds more reasonable here.
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