Frank Mir VS Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira II

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POLL: Frank Mir VS Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira II
Big Nog 80% (43)
Frank 20% (11)
UFCmma666
8/31/09 6:27:51PM
with both fighters now healthy in shape and focused i think this would be a good fight could it happen and if so who do you pick and why
joshryanshepherd
8/31/09 6:31:26PM
i think Big Nog would tear him up, even on the Mat
KaibaThedon
8/31/09 6:56:06PM
Bad knee + Staph infection + Frank Mir being the best Mir anyone has ever seen = Nogueira loss

Saturday's Nog will destroy Mir.
Irish_Pride
8/31/09 7:50:54PM
If Big Nog fights Mir like he did saturday, I have to go with Big Nog. Just by the looks of it that staph infection was a really big deal in their last fight, I think if they had a rematch, Nog would completely dominate. Nog would beat him up on the stand-up and either knock him out or submit him on the ground. I doubt Mir could have gotten out of that darce choke like Couture did.
UFCmma666
8/31/09 8:24:02PM

Posted by Irish_Pride

If Big Nog fights Mir like he did saturday, I have to go with Big Nog. Just by the looks of it that staph infection was a really big deal in their last fight, I think if they had a rematch, Nog would completely dominate. Nog would beat him up on the stand-up and either knock him out or submit him on the ground. I doubt Mir could have gotten out of that darce choke like Couture did.



AGREED
chokehead
8/31/09 8:57:45PM

Posted by KaibaThedon

Bad knee + Staph infection + Frank Mir being the best Mir anyone has ever seen = Nogueira loss

Saturday's Nog will destroy Mir.



QFE. That night Nogueira had alot of the odds against him, but people didn't acknowledge that until now.


BelXavier420
8/31/09 9:02:29PM
Everyone who is saying Nogueira would win second time around is still in denial of how good Brock Lesnar is. Frank Mir appeared to be in the best shape of his life against Lesnar (second time) and got destroyed. It isn't that Mir got lucky against Nog, or Nog was out of shape. It is the new wave of heavyweights, and Lesnar is leading by leaps and bounds. Frank Mir would annihilate Nogueira if they fought again. Just because he looked decent against a well aged Randy doesn't mean he is in the running to take the title. If Tito Ortiz fought and beat Chuck Liddell in a unanimous decision would you be saying Ortiz deserves a rematch against Machida for the title?
higdon10
8/31/09 9:56:11PM
Mir would beat him again.
Rush
8/31/09 10:28:17PM

Posted by BelXavier420

Everyone who is saying Nogueira would win second time around is still in denial of how good Brock Lesnar is. Frank Mir appeared to be in the best shape of his life against Lesnar (second time) and got destroyed. It isn't that Mir got lucky against Nog, or Nog was out of shape. It is the new wave of heavyweights, and Lesnar is leading by leaps and bounds. Frank Mir would annihilate Nogueira if they fought again. Just because he looked decent against a well aged Randy doesn't mean he is in the running to take the title. If Tito Ortiz fought and beat Chuck Liddell in a unanimous decision would you be saying Ortiz deserves a rematch against Machida for the title?




I don't understand what you are saying because so much of it is irrelevant to the question at hand.
mkiv9secsupra
8/31/09 10:37:37PM

Posted by BelXavier420

Everyone who is saying Nogueira would win second time around is still in denial of how good Brock Lesnar is. Frank Mir appeared to be in the best shape of his life against Lesnar (second time) and got destroyed. It isn't that Mir got lucky against Nog, or Nog was out of shape. It is the new wave of heavyweights, and Lesnar is leading by leaps and bounds. Frank Mir would annihilate Nogueira if they fought again. Just because he looked decent against a well aged Randy doesn't mean he is in the running to take the title. If Tito Ortiz fought and beat Chuck Liddell in a unanimous decision would you be saying Ortiz deserves a rematch against Machida for the title?



@ the bolded part


So Nogueira cant beat Mir because Mir lost to Lesnar? Is that really the argument you are using for this match up?!


Also looking great against a fully trained and healthy Couture is loads better than looking great against an injured Nogueira who couldnt complete a full training camp
george112
8/31/09 10:39:02PM
Nog would imo have problems with Mir on the feet.but i really think Nog could weather the storm and knock him down.Nog is very accurate with his punches.that being said i think he would need to stay out of the clinch with Mir and counter punch.if the takedown is there he should take it and i see Nog showing Mir a thing or two on the ground.

Id take Nog with UD.possibly a TKO
prozacnation1978
8/31/09 11:02:21PM
i have no interest in that fight till at least 2011..
pv3Hpv3p
9/1/09 10:47:31AM
It solidified for me when they said that Nog came in 10 pounds lighter than his fight against Mir... I think a lot of Noguearia's "chin" comes from his conditioning and ability to recover so quickly... Something he was definitley lacking in the Mir fight...

I would absolutley watch this rematch... Mir's a great fighter, but anyone that has followed Noguearia throughout his career could tell that something seemed wrong in that fight
UFCmma666
9/1/09 2:04:17PM

Posted by chokehead


Posted by KaibaThedon

Bad knee + Staph infection + Frank Mir being the best Mir anyone has ever seen = Nogueira loss

Saturday's Nog will destroy Mir.



QFE. That night Nogueira had alot of the odds against him, but people didn't acknowledge that until now.





thats because we needed a well prepared nogueira to show us that those werent just excuses(like alot of other fighters)
Playground_Samurai
9/1/09 5:59:54PM
IMO, the results on this poll come from the old "what have you done for me lately" factor. Happens all the time, especially on the P4P discussions.
nickcuc547
9/1/09 6:26:01PM
I'm a coward who doesn't fight so I can't state my opinion. At least according to Frank Mir I can't.

With that said Nog hands frank mir yet another embarrassing loss bringing his total to every fight he lost being embarrassing, except for the pedepano and vera fights of course
BelXavier420
9/1/09 6:45:20PM

Posted by mkiv9secsupra


Posted by BelXavier420

Everyone who is saying Nogueira would win second time around is still in denial of how good Brock Lesnar is. Frank Mir appeared to be in the best shape of his life against Lesnar (second time) and got destroyed. It isn't that Mir got lucky against Nog, or Nog was out of shape. It is the new wave of heavyweights, and Lesnar is leading by leaps and bounds. Frank Mir would annihilate Nogueira if they fought again. Just because he looked decent against a well aged Randy doesn't mean he is in the running to take the title. If Tito Ortiz fought and beat Chuck Liddell in a unanimous decision would you be saying Ortiz deserves a rematch against Machida for the title?



@ the bolded part


So Nogueira cant beat Mir because Mir lost to Lesnar? Is that really the argument you are using for this match up?!


Also looking great against a fully trained and healthy Couture is loads better than looking great against an injured Nogueira who couldnt complete a full training camp



My argument is that Frank Mir is still improving, and conditioning wise appearing in the best shape of his life. The only reason he lost his last fight is because he fought Brock Lesnar. Had he fought anyone else in the entire Heavyweight class he (Frank Mir) would have looked great and this whole Mir vs Nog II would not even be a question. Does that make sense yet? I really didn't think that my post was that difficult to understand. I will try to make my points a little clearer for all audiences. Seriously Randy Couture is 46 freaking years old. How many Pro Athletes do you know at 46? Name one Football or Basketball player at 46. Love Randy and much respect but he is past his prime, and on the decline.
roger
9/2/09 1:09:05AM
Mirs boxing is way better then Nog!!!

Big Nog left his chin wide open alot in the randy fight
BustedKnuckle
9/2/09 6:23:22PM
Mir needs to focus on beating Kongo befre he even sniffs a rematch with NOG. Thats said The NOG that rolled Randy would hand Frank his ass.
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