Posted by Geoffo
No offence but American Fans are hard to please... There's a reason why Canada and Brazil was always regarded as MMA's hottest markets by Dana White.
American fans have by far the least MMA knowledge out of all the countries. I'm not saying they are dumb, I say this because they have a lot more things to watch, such as so called "American Football" and the most boring past time ever, in Baseball.
Its hard to educate so many people so its hard to get them to be interested in MMA. The UFC and MMA will expand and have already expanded to many parts of the world. USA will take longer.
American fans have by far the least MMA knowledge out of all the countries
Posted by Adrenaline
Posted by Geoffo
No offence but American Fans are hard to please... There's a reason why Canada and Brazil was always regarded as MMA's hottest markets by Dana White.
American fans have by far the least MMA knowledge out of all the countries. I'm not saying they are dumb, I say this because they have a lot more things to watch, such as so called "American Football" and the most boring past time ever, in Baseball.
Its hard to educate so many people so its hard to get them to be interested in MMA. The UFC and MMA will expand and have already expanded to many parts of the world. USA will take longer.
And what do you base your claim that American fans have the least knowledge out of all countries? That is a pretty bold and silly comment but I guess you are entitled to it. A huge percentage of the users on this site are US based and are extremely knowledgeable so again, what exactly are you basing your opinion on? Step down off your pedestal now.
Canada is such a hot market because they have not been privileged to as many events as the US. It was not till recently that the UFC started going to Canada regularly so what do you expect? If a huge event such as the UFC only came to the States once or twice a year, you could damn well bet that that place would be packed to the rafters. I think Canada has had 8 events so far compared to what, a 100+ in the US. The Canadian fans are awesome, don't get me wrong but it is currently the hot bed because it is a new(er) demographic as far as live events go. Brazil has always been a hot bed, I don't think that needs any explaining.
Whether people hate to admit it or not, an American company (the UFC) has been crucial in the development and growth of MMA. The UFC holds the majority of its events in the US and I'd expect that a large (if not majority) of its PPV revenue comes from the US. So the sport has been grown on the back of the American fan that you give so little credit to.
Unless you can cite something that says country A has more MMA knowledge that country B per capita then I have to say that your opinion is exactly that, an unfounded opinion.
Posted by Geoffo
Posted by Adrenaline
Posted by Geoffo
No offence but American Fans are hard to please... There's a reason why Canada and Brazil was always regarded as MMA's hottest markets by Dana White.
American fans have by far the least MMA knowledge out of all the countries. I'm not saying they are dumb, I say this because they have a lot more things to watch, such as so called "American Football" and the most boring past time ever, in Baseball.
Its hard to educate so many people so its hard to get them to be interested in MMA. The UFC and MMA will expand and have already expanded to many parts of the world. USA will take longer.
And what do you base your claim that American fans have the least knowledge out of all countries? That is a pretty bold and silly comment but I guess you are entitled to it. A huge percentage of the users on this site are US based and are extremely knowledgeable so again, what exactly are you basing your opinion on? Step down off your pedestal now.
Canada is such a hot market because they have not been privileged to as many events as the US. It was not till recently that the UFC started going to Canada regularly so what do you expect? If a huge event such as the UFC only came to the States once or twice a year, you could damn well bet that that place would be packed to the rafters. I think Canada has had 8 events so far compared to what, a 100+ in the US. The Canadian fans are awesome, don't get me wrong but it is currently the hot bed because it is a new(er) demographic as far as live events go. Brazil has always been a hot bed, I don't think that needs any explaining.
Whether people hate to admit it or not, an American company (the UFC) has been crucial in the development and growth of MMA. The UFC holds the majority of its events in the US and I'd expect that a large (if not majority) of its PPV revenue comes from the US. So the sport has been grown on the back of the American fan that you give so little credit to.
Unless you can cite something that says country A has more MMA knowledge that country B per capita then I have to say that your opinion is exactly that, an unfounded opinion.
LOL guys, in no way am I saying Americans do not deserve MMA or UFC or anything silly like that. I'm saying in countries like Brazil, they're not big on sports such as hockey, american football, and baseball. MMA in Brazil is bigger than in the US as of now. I'm not bashing Americans, I'm saying it'll take them longer for it to gain mainstream popularity.
I'm saying MMA to mainstream USA is low, therefore the people's knowledge of MMA is low. I'm not bashing Americans, it just bothers me sometimes people call themselves "fans".
Watch Ariel Helwani's video where he interviews people on UFC on Fox. People claim they're fans, but when Ariel asks them the most popular fighter in the UFC they say Kimbo Slice, or cannot even pronounce or remember Brock Lesnar's name.
I'm not bashing Americans. I'm just saying MMA is growing faster in Canada and Brazil because the MAJORITY of people care to learn about it because we don't have the NFL or a lot of baseball teams or many other sports that are big.
) and we are a third larger in population than Brazil. So even though there really is no data to prove it, it is possible that more people identify themselves as fans of mma per capita in Canada or Brazil but on the flip side if half of your population (an incredibly generous number) were MMA fans that would equate to roughly 15 million or 5% of our population. So while per capita it might be possible that you have more "fans" by sheer numbers there are easily more people in the US who identify themselves as MMA fans than in Canada. It would not be a huge stretch of the imagination to say that atleast 10% of the US population had some knowledge of MMA or the entire population of Canada.
Posted by Adrenaline
Posted by Geoffo
Posted by Adrenaline
Posted by Geoffo
No offence but American Fans are hard to please... There's a reason why Canada and Brazil was always regarded as MMA's hottest markets by Dana White.
American fans have by far the least MMA knowledge out of all the countries. I'm not saying they are dumb, I say this because they have a lot more things to watch, such as so called "American Football" and the most boring past time ever, in Baseball.
Its hard to educate so many people so its hard to get them to be interested in MMA. The UFC and MMA will expand and have already expanded to many parts of the world. USA will take longer.
And what do you base your claim that American fans have the least knowledge out of all countries? That is a pretty bold and silly comment but I guess you are entitled to it. A huge percentage of the users on this site are US based and are extremely knowledgeable so again, what exactly are you basing your opinion on? Step down off your pedestal now.
Canada is such a hot market because they have not been privileged to as many events as the US. It was not till recently that the UFC started going to Canada regularly so what do you expect? If a huge event such as the UFC only came to the States once or twice a year, you could damn well bet that that place would be packed to the rafters. I think Canada has had 8 events so far compared to what, a 100+ in the US. The Canadian fans are awesome, don't get me wrong but it is currently the hot bed because it is a new(er) demographic as far as live events go. Brazil has always been a hot bed, I don't think that needs any explaining.
Whether people hate to admit it or not, an American company (the UFC) has been crucial in the development and growth of MMA. The UFC holds the majority of its events in the US and I'd expect that a large (if not majority) of its PPV revenue comes from the US. So the sport has been grown on the back of the American fan that you give so little credit to.
Unless you can cite something that says country A has more MMA knowledge that country B per capita then I have to say that your opinion is exactly that, an unfounded opinion.
LOL guys, in no way am I saying Americans do not deserve MMA or UFC or anything silly like that. I'm saying in countries like Brazil, they're not big on sports such as hockey, american football, and baseball. MMA in Brazil is bigger than in the US as of now. I'm not bashing Americans, I'm saying it'll take them longer for it to gain mainstream popularity.
I'm saying MMA to mainstream USA is low, therefore the people's knowledge of MMA is low. I'm not bashing Americans, it just bothers me sometimes people call themselves "fans".
Watch Ariel Helwani's video where he interviews people on UFC on Fox. People claim they're fans, but when Ariel asks them the most popular fighter in the UFC they say Kimbo Slice, or cannot even pronounce or remember Brock Lesnar's name.
I'm not bashing Americans. I'm just saying MMA is growing faster in Canada and Brazil because the MAJORITY of people care to learn about it because we don't have the NFL or a lot of baseball teams or many other sports that are big.
Oh no hard feelings dude, it was not hard to see where you were going with your post but you went about it the wrong way and didn't do as well of a job explaining it as you did in your followup post.
Its a numbers thing, the population in the US is almost 10X that of Canada (you guys are lucky, I hate people) and we are a third larger in population than Brazil. So even though there really is no data to prove it, it is possible that more people identify themselves as fans of mma per capita in Canada or Brazil but on the flip side if half of your population (an incredibly generous number) were MMA fans that would equate to roughly 15 million or 5% of our population. So while per capita it might be possible that you have more "fans" by sheer numbers there are easily more people in the US who identify themselves as MMA fans than in Canada. It would not be a huge stretch of the imagination to say that atleast 10% of the US population had some knowledge of MMA or the entire population of Canada.
I think your logic is flawed however I do agree with you that in the US we have the NFL and MLB as well as college sports that are truly mainstream and it will take a long time for MMA to reach those levels, if it ever does.
I love my brothers to the north so I hope MMA keeps booming up there. The more the merrier ehhh?
Posted by Geoffo
Posted by Adrenaline
Posted by Geoffo
Posted by Adrenaline
Posted by Geoffo
No offence but American Fans are hard to please... There's a reason why Canada and Brazil was always regarded as MMA's hottest markets by Dana White.
American fans have by far the least MMA knowledge out of all the countries. I'm not saying they are dumb, I say this because they have a lot more things to watch, such as so called "American Football" and the most boring past time ever, in Baseball.
Its hard to educate so many people so its hard to get them to be interested in MMA. The UFC and MMA will expand and have already expanded to many parts of the world. USA will take longer.
And what do you base your claim that American fans have the least knowledge out of all countries? That is a pretty bold and silly comment but I guess you are entitled to it. A huge percentage of the users on this site are US based and are extremely knowledgeable so again, what exactly are you basing your opinion on? Step down off your pedestal now.
Canada is such a hot market because they have not been privileged to as many events as the US. It was not till recently that the UFC started going to Canada regularly so what do you expect? If a huge event such as the UFC only came to the States once or twice a year, you could damn well bet that that place would be packed to the rafters. I think Canada has had 8 events so far compared to what, a 100+ in the US. The Canadian fans are awesome, don't get me wrong but it is currently the hot bed because it is a new(er) demographic as far as live events go. Brazil has always been a hot bed, I don't think that needs any explaining.
Whether people hate to admit it or not, an American company (the UFC) has been crucial in the development and growth of MMA. The UFC holds the majority of its events in the US and I'd expect that a large (if not majority) of its PPV revenue comes from the US. So the sport has been grown on the back of the American fan that you give so little credit to.
Unless you can cite something that says country A has more MMA knowledge that country B per capita then I have to say that your opinion is exactly that, an unfounded opinion.
LOL guys, in no way am I saying Americans do not deserve MMA or UFC or anything silly like that. I'm saying in countries like Brazil, they're not big on sports such as hockey, american football, and baseball. MMA in Brazil is bigger than in the US as of now. I'm not bashing Americans, I'm saying it'll take them longer for it to gain mainstream popularity.
I'm saying MMA to mainstream USA is low, therefore the people's knowledge of MMA is low. I'm not bashing Americans, it just bothers me sometimes people call themselves "fans".
Watch Ariel Helwani's video where he interviews people on UFC on Fox. People claim they're fans, but when Ariel asks them the most popular fighter in the UFC they say Kimbo Slice, or cannot even pronounce or remember Brock Lesnar's name.
I'm not bashing Americans. I'm just saying MMA is growing faster in Canada and Brazil because the MAJORITY of people care to learn about it because we don't have the NFL or a lot of baseball teams or many other sports that are big.
Oh no hard feelings dude, it was not hard to see where you were going with your post but you went about it the wrong way and didn't do as well of a job explaining it as you did in your followup post.
Its a numbers thing, the population in the US is almost 10X that of Canada (you guys are lucky, I hate people) and we are a third larger in population than Brazil. So even though there really is no data to prove it, it is possible that more people identify themselves as fans of mma per capita in Canada or Brazil but on the flip side if half of your population (an incredibly generous number) were MMA fans that would equate to roughly 15 million or 5% of our population. So while per capita it might be possible that you have more "fans" by sheer numbers there are easily more people in the US who identify themselves as MMA fans than in Canada. It would not be a huge stretch of the imagination to say that atleast 10% of the US population had some knowledge of MMA or the entire population of Canada.
I think your logic is flawed however I do agree with you that in the US we have the NFL and MLB as well as college sports that are truly mainstream and it will take a long time for MMA to reach those levels, if it ever does.
I love my brothers to the north so I hope MMA keeps booming up there. The more the merrier ehhh?
Yeah no hard feelings, sorry about that I didn't do a good job explaining. I re-read my post and it came out kinda wrong, I apologize. Yeah there are about as many people in California than there is in Canada.
Yeah I guess i was trying to say, a larger PERCENTAGE of the population in Canada/Brazil follow MMA more closely or are legit fans. I'm not saying Americans or dumb or anything, I'm pretty dumb when it comes to Football and Baseball, I just... don't care about the sports whatsoever, doesn't intrigue me. Much like some people don't like MMA at all.
Love you guys to the south as well. Lots of the credits go out to the US and UFC for getting MMA so big.
Just kidding. Back on topic though, I was a little bummed out that I couldn't watch Bendo/Guida live ( I guess there were a few option but none were convenient at the time) but I would never bitch about it, we are generally pretty lucky here, the UK guys get a little boned by never getting big fight cards and although an event has never came near my state I could easily hop on a plane or go on a road trip to see one so I have it better than alot of people who have to settle for just seeing it on TV.
Posted by grappler0000 from another thread
USA - 5.7* / 312** = 1.8% of population watched
Bra - 10* / 192** = 5.2% of population watched
*million viewers
**million people live in country
Brazil had a much higher percentage of the population watching than the US, so I would say that it is indeed a good number. 60 million would have been crazy. 31.25% is nearly 1 in 3 people.