Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by fullerene
Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Pacquiao? really? allow yourself to remember the whole decade, from 2000-2009. i think Manny might rank high on a few people's list because of recent memory, i honestly don't think he has the body of work across the decade nor the big names on his record to make him the best fighter.
Pacquiao's best wins were at featherweight, not welterweight. IMO, his biggest win was in 2003 when he beat Barrera who was heavier and generally ranked in the top 2-3 p4p in the world.
He won the flyweight title in 1998, upset Ledwaba for a 122 pound belt in 2001 and he's been in title contention at one weight or another throughout the entire decade.
but he hasn't dominated the way Fedor has dominated, or rather i should say he hasn't dominated against top quality competition (in regards to the top competition that used to be prevalent in boxing) the way Fedor has. maybe it is because i am not as proficient in boxing knowledge as i am with MMA knowledge, but it just seems like boxing has been "emptier" in terms of talent in comparison with its past. good points though, and i apologize if my tone came out condescending, it was really more of a baffled tone since i didn't know your reasoning.
HW MMA had less stiff competition than FW boxing during the 2000s and it's not even close. HWs in every combat sport--boxing, kickboxing, MMA, wrestling--are harder to find and generally less talented and conditioned. It's a big asterisk on any individual's dominance if that is the division they compete in and following MMA closely I'm sure you'd have to concede that many of Fedor's opponents were not highly skilled and were flat out outmatched.
On the contrary, It was one of the greatest FW periods in boxing ever, filled with future HOF fighters and Pacquiao fought the best three of the bunch--Morales, Barrera and Marquez--multiple times getting the better of each series as well as knocking off guys like DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Ledwaba and Larios. Boxing overall over the last decade has had a modern high-point in terms of talent in many weight classes, in particular the 126/130 and 140/147 divisions. Manny has beat everyone who mattered in the first group and he is off to a good start beating the guys who are still around in the latter one. I think people might not realize how much talent there is out there because little of it is American and little of it is consequently covered by the American media. But the influx of Eastern European fighters since the fall of the Soviet Union and the rise of boxing in SE Asia has more than made up for this in the lighter weight classes--maybe in the heavier ones, too, although that's debatable. A lot of the nations that are producing top boxing talent--Mexico, Puerto Rico, Panama, Thailand, Japan, The Phillipines--have their best fighters in the weight classes that Manny Pacquiao has fought in.