Fedor nor Randy should fight for UFC
I think it is a joke what ufc is paying fighters. The last ufc pay roll was a joke (as were all previous ones) Fedor and randy should be making a million per fight at LEAST. Im just pissed seing these payrolls. the average ufc fighter must have a hell of a time supporting their family making 10 or less grand a fight, about 3 times a year
just crossed my mind, what if the fighters went on strike
Where did you get your info? just curious.
cmill21
9/30/07 9:50:19PM
Posted by xxMALICExx
Where did you get your info? just curious.
There are alot of guys who are being shafted big time. Shogun is suposed to be a huge star and made 150 base. Chuck makes a nice paycheck at 500 a fight but this man is/was the face of the sport. I agree I'd like to see the fighters leave for K-1 or go on strike.
MALICE
9/30/07 10:00:32PM
I'm serious. Where do you get that info? I'd like to see how much each fighter makes.
cmill21
9/30/07 10:32:57PM
In the news section theres ussually a "UFC __ Pay outs" after each event
MALICE
9/30/07 10:36:43PM
Thanks. I'll have to check that out.
kevietre
9/30/07 10:36:53PM
A million per fight? A million dollars for beating the hell out of Gonzaga? No. No. No. The main event fighters should be paid more but a million is ridiculous. Jardine got screwed over as well as some of the other fighters but it will just drive them to train harder and do better so they get that main event status and stardom that the household names get. Right now in MMA to make "A lot" of money you have to be a household name and the only way to do that is put on exciting performances and win.
I think they should be paid more but they have to work their way up and a million is just too much for one fight.
MALICE
9/30/07 10:46:17PM
Wow! I knew Liddell was making that kind of cash. I just didn't know that all of the other fighters were making so little. I was just basing it on if a guy wins TUF show. He gets a 6 digit (3 years is it?) contract. And they haven't really even fought in the UFC yet. I figured by now, being established, Jardine and others would've been making 4 or 5 times that. Bummer!
puppetmaster837
9/30/07 11:10:41PM
There is all this talk about how boxing is dying out and how mma, and mainly UFC is taking over. But for De La Hoya's last fight he made $25 million, Chuck made $500,000. If one sport is dying so much, and one sport is getting so huge, why would a boxer make 50x more money? The fighters really are getting ripped, at 76 there was a guy that made $3,000, now that has to last him a couple to a few months until his next fight. So instead of being able to train all the time he has to work.
loonytnt
9/30/07 11:56:25PM
UFC fighter imo any UFC fighter should make min. 50k a fight, thats not to much for dana to pay, boxers get way more and do less, football,baseball,basetball, all pro sports get payed a lot why not mma fighters?
and any main event needs to be in the mils
mkiv9secsupra
10/1/07 12:37:28AM
Posted by kevietre
The main event fighters should be paid more but a million is ridiculous.
lets take a look at ufc 71....
$4.4 million at the gate.
roughly 1 million ppv buys at $40 a piece is roughly $40 million
out of $45 million per event lets take out ten for renting the arena, crew, etc.
so out of 35 million dollars you dont think Zuffa/UFC should pay the main eventers more than one million?
bullettdodger
10/1/07 2:37:15AM
Posted by mkiv9secsupra
Posted by kevietre
The main event fighters should be paid more but a million is ridiculous.
lets take a look at ufc 71....
$4.4 million at the gate.
roughly 1 million ppv buys at $40 a piece is roughly $40 million
out of $45 million per event lets take out ten for renting the arena, crew, etc.
so out of 35 million dollars you dont think Zuffa/UFC should pay the main eventers more than one million?
While i agree that fighters should be paid more, i also realize that Zuffa is running a business, and businesses have to pay people and other corps. for all sorts of different things from hand wraps to renting whatever arena. The fact of the matter is fighters are getting screwed.
Posted by puppetmaster837
There is all this talk about how boxing is dying out and how mma, and mainly UFC is taking over. But for De La Hoya's last fight he made $25 million, Chuck made $500,000. If one sport is dying so much, and one sport is getting so huge, why would a boxer make 50x more money? The fighters really are getting ripped, at 76 there was a guy that made $3,000, now that has to last him a couple to a few months until his next fight. So instead of being able to train all the time he has to work.
Most of these huge-name boxers, including the champions, usually fight maybe twice a year (once is more like it). Boxing also brings in much more money in live gates, PPV revenue, advertising, etc. than MMA currently does, although I don't think it's as lopsided a difference now than it was just a couple years ago.
Naturaldisaster
10/1/07 8:21:53AM
I think they should get paid more, but it the fighters aren't complaining then Im not going to either. and they fight because its their passion, not for the money
juanez13
10/1/07 9:29:05AM
i didnt take the time to read the whole thing, but dont forget that each fighter gets money from their sponsors, and guys like randy, hughes, chuck all get a cut of the ppv %....
cmill21
10/1/07 9:38:47AM
Posted by DCRage
Posted by puppetmaster837
There is all this talk about how boxing is dying out and how mma, and mainly UFC is taking over. But for De La Hoya's last fight he made $25 million, Chuck made $500,000. If one sport is dying so much, and one sport is getting so huge, why would a boxer make 50x more money? The fighters really are getting ripped, at 76 there was a guy that made $3,000, now that has to last him a couple to a few months until his next fight. So instead of being able to train all the time he has to work.
Most of these huge-name boxers, including the champions, usually fight maybe twice a year (once is more like it). Boxing also brings in much more money in live gates, PPV revenue, advertising, etc. than MMA currently does, although I don't think it's as lopsided a difference now than it was just a couple years ago.
Yeah they fight 1 maybe 2 times a year and still make 8x more. Last #'s I saw I think it was wwe, ufc, then boxing for ppv sales.
Btews22
10/1/07 10:13:26AM
you forget about all the bonuses the fighters receive often two times what there base purse is
HulkRage
10/1/07 10:34:28AM
I agree that fighters are shafted when it comes to pay, it needs to be higher. Some big name fighters are getting payed big cash (1/2 mill for Liddell) but the lower guys are really getting shafted with $2,000-$15,000, that is B.S..
Although we have to keep in mind that they are also getting cash from sponsers also. (still not enough$)
A lot of these guys getting paid so little are either not champions or they have contracts from before the UFC blew up. Someone like Shogun, is getting paid between 150 and 250k per a fight. That means if he fights 4 times a year he makes between 600k and 1 million. That's a pretty ******* great living.
Posted by juanez13
i didnt take the time to read the whole thing, but dont forget that each fighter gets money from their sponsors, and guys like randy, hughes, chuck all get a cut of the ppv %....
Don't forget merchandising, can you imagine how many t-shirts and styrofoam hands Chuck Liddell has sold?
Also, yes, the underdogs get "screwed" over in comparison (Jardine/Liddell), but lets say they make 16k per fight and fight 4 times a year, thats 64k...ok, maybe they are getting screwed over just a little bit
fullfighting
10/1/07 7:18:31PM
Dana and the Fertidas are screwing their fighters and laughing all the way to the bank. The UFC is huge and it just keeps doing better and better. They could afford to give their fighters way more money. In all honesty its BS.
But don't forget that these payout figures that everyone is discussing are just the contract numbers given to the athletic comission. These numbers do not include the PPV bonuses that are given to the fighters. It is rumored that if a fighter wins his PPV bonus could be two to three times what his base pay is.
MMAnomale
10/2/07 12:12:46PM
The difference between the UFC and boxing is that boxing usually promotes their events around only one or two fights and that's all you get on the ppv and that's all there is that night. Those still draw a lot of money whereas, in the UFC, there are usually around 11 fights at one event, therefore the UFC has to pay 22 fighters plus the bonuses for winning and submission and knockout of the night. Granted, they are making more money with PPV sales now, but they still don't have the money from promotions and stuff like boxing did. I agree fighters should be paid better, but it's not like they're getting paid nothing. If you're a solid fighter and you fight 3 to 4 times per year, you can still make around 75,000 a year for fighting. It could be better, but I wouldn't go so far as to say they're struggling to feed their families. Plus, most fighters run schools, for wrestling, bjj, whatever. Some of them make pretty good money without ever fighting. However, they still deserve to make more. Plus, those bonuses are huge. The average figher still gets at least 15,000 for the fight.
tlangley
10/2/07 9:12:16PM
i heard Ufc offered Fedor 2 mill a fight!
cmill21
10/2/07 9:30:19PM
Posted by nubby
A lot of these guys getting paid so little are either not champions or they have contracts from before the UFC blew up. Someone like Shogun, is getting paid between 150 and 250k per a fight. That means if he fights 4 times a year he makes between 600k and 1 million. That's a pretty ******* great living.
Yeah if you could fight until your 50. If you look at it, most guys are late 20's early 30's, most will only fight 4-5 years, then they're bodies are beaten and they have a lifetime of injuries to deal with. They need to pay more because these guys are risking their lives to do what they love for, in the fight game, peanuts. Boxers can retire when they should because they have enough money. UFC guys have to fight past their prime so they can have a decent amount to last their whole life. Because unless they get into commentary, theirs not really alot of fall backs like their are in other sports. You can open up a gym or train people, but other then that there's nothing. So no 600k a year for 4-5 years isn't that good of a living when it has to last you 20-30 years.
I could live just fine with 600k a year for five years. But, yes I do think they deserve more money.
hathcock32
10/3/07 12:14:51AM
Most of the fighters earn a lot of money with their sponsers. Plus appearences they make, bonuses for their fights its not as bad as it looks.
cmill21
10/3/07 2:38:02AM
Posted by hathcock32
Most of the fighters earn a lot of money with their sponsers. Plus appearences they make, bonuses for their fights its not as bad as it looks.
But so does every other pro athlete on earth. The UFC makes more then alot of orgs. and their athletes are the lowest in pay grade. They also have the most training(IMO) and biggest risk outside of football.
hathcock32
10/3/07 6:25:29AM
Posted by cmill21
Posted by hathcock32
Most of the fighters earn a lot of money with their sponsers. Plus appearences they make, bonuses for their fights its not as bad as it looks.
But so does every other pro athlete on earth. The UFC makes more then alot of orgs. and their athletes are the lowest in pay grade. They also have the most training(IMO) and biggest risk outside of football.
And baseball.....a 100 mph pitch at the head.....Not to safe
I recently read Forrest got paid 10,000 dollars to show up at a 2 hour sign meet and greet..