Fedor's Myths and Facts

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snakerattle79
9/29/08 5:55:00AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/54789-the-top-10-myths-about-fedor-emelianenko


This article contains no opinions (aside from those myths), only facts with proof and information on where and how you can check these things to be true.

The author is a big fan of UFC, Pride, and everything in between, from Kimbo to Rickson Gracie to Randy Couture and everyone else with the heart and guts to step into the cage or ring. There is no bias in this article!


Myth No. 1

Fedor doesn't (want to) fight top competition.

Fact

The top competition doesn't (want to) fight Fedor.

Proof

Josh Barnett is on video turning down the Fedor fight. You can view it on YouTube. Real Deal press conference (after the fights) Josh says he is beat up and tired to fight Fedor next, yet he does fight Nog (No. 2 in the world) instead...So, I guess he wasn't THAT tired.

Randy Couture tells us in his own press conference (YouTube) that he was offered $3 million to fight Fedor in Bodog, but chose instead to take $300k (10 times less money) to re-sign with UFC to fight Tim Sylvia.

Werdum stated on the front page of Pride website: "I'm not ready for the likes of Fedor."

Mirko Cro Cop stated, on his own website after the 2006 GP: "I will not take the Fedor fight now, due to my foot injury." (Notice that Cro Cop had no problem fighting lesser opponents WITH his foot injury, nor did Cro Cop have a problem fighting Fedor when Fedor's hand was broken...)

Need more proof? Listen to the wise words of Wanderlei Silva: "NOBODY wants to fight Fedor."


Myth No. 2

Fedor is afraid of the UFC.

Fact

UFC is afraid of Fedor.

Proof

UFC president Dana White went on the record to confirm that Fedor's management offered the UFC to have Fedor fight there on several occasions. Dana turned it down, according to himself.If we use our heads a little bit here, we can clearly see that Dana White is not going to let his best fighter get beat up, and then let Fedor just leave the UFC...That would be a marketing disaster.

The ONLY way UFC will sign Fedor is if they can have him for at least 4 fights. And if he wins them all, he MUST re-sign again, and again, and again... He can NEVER leave undefeated unless he retires (Officialclausein the UFC proposed agreement, which Fedor rejected) Also, if Fedor loses one fight UFC has the right to tear up the contract! (UFC standard offer is two lost fights, not one). This is unacceptable.

Think of it this way: if UFC is NOT afraid of Fedor, than why not let him fight Randy on a 1-time deal which Fedor has been asking for for years? (Notice! This would be in a cage, under UFC rules)

(Hint: because Dana White (UFC president) knows Fedor will most likely win and leave, ruining UFC's image)

Myth No. 3

Fedor is afraid of the UFC's rules.

Fact

Fedor fought under UFC rules and won.

Proof

Fedor has already fought under UFC rules in USA (vs. Tim Sylvia). He did just fine.


Myth No. 4

Fedor uses steroids, because all Pride fighters do.

Fact

Fedor is clean.

Proof

Fedor was tested several times by the same commission, which tests UFC fighters, since Fedor has fought in USA twice. He came back clean every time, while several other Pride and UFC fighters did not.


Myth No. 5

Fedor fights middleweights.

Fact

Fedor fights heavyweights.

Proof

Matt Lindland was seven lbs. lighter than Fedor for their fight. He was therefore a heavyweight for that fight. According to Lindland, on radio Sherdog, size was NOT the reason he lost to Fedor, but it was Fedor's great skill.

Renato Babalu and Arona were heavyweights back then. They have SINCE changed weight classes, but at and around the time of their fights with Fedor they were heavyweights.

Myth No. 6

Fedor mostly fights freak shows.

Fact

Everyone fights freak shows. And some of them are not freak shows.

Proof

Nogueira (current UFC interim Heavyweight Champion, and former Pride Champion) fought Zulu as well.

If Hong Man Choi is a freak show, than so is Brock Lesnar. They have a similar record in MMA, similar background (national wrestling champions), similar level of opposition, etc.

Recently Dana White praised Nog for beating Bob Sapp whom he called "freak show" (Countdown to TUF, new season). So fighting Sapp is ok, and Choi is not?? Notice also that Choi has defeated Sapp in K1.


Myth No. 7

Fedor fights cans (weak fighters).

Fact

Fedor has fought more top-10 ranked fighters than anyone except Nogueira.

Proof

Guys that you don't know, and you see them on Fedor's record are his early fights, where he had to prove himself. He was unknown also, remember that! If you look at the record of any other top fighter, you will find cans on their records as well.

Some cans you see on Fedor's record EARNED the right to face him. Example: Ogawa was not chosen by Fedor to beat up on. Ogawa won his previous Pride 2004 GP fights and EARNED the right to face Fedor. There was nothing Fedor could have done about that.

Some cans you see on Fedor's record were not cans at the time of their fights with Fedor. Examples: That same Ogawa, besides being a four-time World Judo Champion and Olympic medalist, was bringing a 7-0 record to the Fedor fight.

Schilt went 1-1 vs. UFC's best in UFC. Coleman was ranked in the top-three at the time of their first fight, etc.

Nogueira was the No. 1 fighter in the entire MMA world at the time of his first fight with Fedor. Cro Cop was ranked No. 2 in the world for his title fight with Fedor. Herring was No. 3 back when he faced Fedor. Nogueira was No. 2 for his second fight with Fedor. Tim was No. 4, and Hunt was No. 9.


Myth No. 8

Fedor can't finish any top fighter.

Fact

Fedor finished three top fighters.

Proof

Tim Sylvia was ranked No. 4 in the world at the time of his fight with Fedor. Hunt was ranked No. 7, or No. 9 in the world, (depending on what rankings you look at). Coleman was in the top-three for their first fight (having only lost to Nog and nobody else) Fedor finished all three men in the first round.


Myth No. 9

Fedor has sloppy striking.

Fact

Fedor has the best striking in MMA.

Proof

How many fighters can you name (aside from Fedor) that have never been dropped, even to one knee, by any strike?

(Don't worry, I'll wait)

His defense in striking is astounding, as the above example shows. (Two other great strikers, B.J. Penn and Anderson Silva, may make a similar claim. Props to them.)

The "loopy" "sloppy" boxing you see from Fedor is the product of different technique used in MMA due to smaller gloves, wider stance, and different weight distribution (in order to defend or prepare/set-up takedowns). Fedor's "loopy" punches curve AROUND the small blocking MMA gloves, and hit their target anyways.

Example:

See fight with Goodridge: Gary puts up a standard boxing block with both hands, but unfortunately for him the gloves are not big enough to cover an area big enough, and Fedor's "loopy" shots hit Gary on the ear, temple and neck.

Another example:

See Tim Sylvia fight. Tim is prepared for Fedor's lightning-fast left hook. Tim is keeping his right hand as high as you'll ever see anyone do it. Fedor leaps in with that left hook again and... horror or horrors!!! The hook lands DESPITE Tim's hand being in the way. Fedor's small glove sneaks thru right next to Tim's small glove and Tim gets hurt. (The above explanations are from Fedor himself, who has elaborated on this topic during a recent master class which you can also see on youtube, but in Russian of course)

Boxing Champion Zab Judah was in attendance at Fedor's latest fight. He looked at Fedor's stand-up with awe and respect. Take Judah's word for it guys, he knows this stuff better than you and I.


Myth No. 10

Fedor is overrated.

Fact

Fedor is UNDERrated.

Proof

Don't take MY word for it guys! Here is what some top fighters and other people in the business have to say about him:


Quotes from people currently working for UFC (toeliminatebias and pro-Fedor hype)

"Fedor is the baddest mother-f_cker walking the planet."

-Joe Rogan, UFC commentator. (radio interview)

"Fedor is my favorite."

-BJ Penn, two-time UFC Champion. (NWFS 7/9/06)

"Fedor is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world aside from B.J. Penn, those two are the best fighters in the world."

-Rampage Jackson, former UFC title-holder (video Sherdog interview, whilepreparingfor rematch with Chuck Liddell)

"The best fighter in the world right now in heavyweight division is probably Fedor"

-Randy Couture, UFC Heavyweight Champion (UFC 74 postfight press conference, available on YouTube)

"Fedor is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, and I would pick him to beat Randy Couture. Randy is a great fighter, but my opinion—Fedor."

-Shogun, Pride GP Champion (cagetoday.com video interview, Aug. 31, 2008)

"Fedor"

-GSP, UFC Champion (answering the question "Who is the best pfp fighter in the world?" on InsideMMA, September 2008)


Quotes by other top people in the business:

"I see no weaknesses in Fedor, he is the most amazing fighter I have ever seen."

-Bas Rutten, former UFC Champion and King of Pancrese.

"The best fighter to ever climb into any arena is Emelianenko Fedor, he is in a class by himself and you can't compare nobody"

-Kevin Randleman, former UFC Champion (available on YouTube)

"To beat Fedor, you would have to kill him twice, and then push him over"

-Nogueira, current UFC interim Heavyweight Champion and former PRIDE Heavyweight Champion (Gracie magazine interview, available on Wiki)

"Fedor is a machine."

-Don Frye, UFC tournament winner. (quote available on YouTube)

"Fedor is not human. He is definitely the best fighter on earth"

-Tim Sylvia, former UFC Champion (notice that Tim has fought Randy Couture, Nog, prime Ricco, and Arlovski three times. Tim knows what he is saying)

"Fedor is the s**t. His striking is amazing and his ground game is the best"

-Mark Hunt, K1 World Champion.

"Fedor is the best and greatest fighter and Martial Artist of all time"

-Chuck Norris, seven-time World Karate Champion and Judo and BJJ Black Belt (Sports-Express, December 2007 interview)

"Fedor has no equals."

-Aleksander Mikhailin, three-time World Judo Champion.

"The best fighter in the world, no doubt."

-Phil Baroni (Real Deal postfight press conference)

"I fought many tough guys around the world, but like him, never."

-Renato Babalu Sobral.

"Fedor... what can you say? He is just a monster!"

-John McCarthy, former head referee of the UFC (Affliction video interview following the event)

"He is the best"

-Mark Coleman, former UFC heavyweight champion and Pride GP Champion.

"He is the best pfp fighter in the world"

-Jeff Monson, ADCC Champion and UFC title contender.

"Fedor is every bit as good as people say he is, he is incredible,ridiculouslygood fighter, he fights with no fear."

-Pat Miletich, legendary coach of many top UFC superstars such as Matt Hughes. (Interview before Affliction, available on youtube by searching "Tim Sylvia talks about Fedor")
Aaronno9
9/29/08 8:01:44AM
You know, i love to watch Fedor fight, and i have him number 1 p4p and HW, but its articles like this that make me wish hed just take that one loss, so people would stop swinging from his nuts so much. I mean, some of the facts here are just twisted to make him look awesome. Like the whole never being dropped thing, he was absolutely out on his feet when Fujita cracked him. He did show awesome recovery and composure to hold on and get the W, but he was as good as dropped in my books.

Also, the lindland thing, just becouse we weighed close to fedor still doesnt justify him as a HW imo. Any fighter can pack on some extra fat to make up weight, just looking at him in that fight you can clearly see he wasnt a HW. 90% of LHWs have more muscle on them than he did that fight.


All in all, Fedor is in fact awesome, and the best fighter out there at the moment, but jeez, take your tounge out of his arse. Fedor has the best striking in mma? Yeh his punching is good, and undoubtedly very powerful, but how often do you see him throw a kick or a knee? Silly claim if you ask me.
MALICE
9/29/08 10:31:53AM
I agree with Aaronno9 on this one. Many flaws in these so-called facts. We understand you like him, but you are misinterpreting the facts to support your wild conclusions.

Myth # 1

Fedor is the best fighter ever.

Fact

Fedor is not the best fighter ever.

Proof

“I don’t consider myself on top of the pedestal,” said Emelianenko


Came from the man himself, Fedor Emelianenko. How do you explain this?
Aaronno9
9/29/08 10:57:03AM
Yeh, its kinda the same with everything though. You can find a "fact" to back up just about any claim anybody ever made. Its ridiculous sometimes.
disorderlyvision
9/29/08 11:36:59AM

Posted by xxMALICExx

I agree with Aaronno9 on this one. Many flaws in these so-called facts. We understand you like him, but you are misinterpreting the facts to support your wild conclusions.

Myth # 1

Fedor is the best fighter ever.

Fact

Fedor is not the best fighter ever.

Proof

“I don’t consider myself on top of the pedestal,” said Emelianenko


Came from the man himself, Fedor Emelianenko. How do you explain this?



perhaps it's called being humble
Aaronno9
9/29/08 11:42:17AM

Posted by disorderlyvision


Posted by xxMALICExx

I agree with Aaronno9 on this one. Many flaws in these so-called facts. We understand you like him, but you are misinterpreting the facts to support your wild conclusions.

Myth # 1

Fedor is the best fighter ever.

Fact

Fedor is not the best fighter ever.

Proof

“I don’t consider myself on top of the pedestal,” said Emelianenko


Came from the man himself, Fedor Emelianenko. How do you explain this?



perhaps it's called being humble



I think hes just pointing out that alot of the "proof" in the first post doesnt exactly hold much water.
CantAndleDaRiddum
9/29/08 2:15:16PM
Fact: Chuck norris armbarred Fedor
Gladiator
9/29/08 2:25:26PM

Posted by Aaronno9

You know, i love to watch Fedor fight, and i have him number 1 p4p and HW, but its articles like this that make me wish hed just take that one loss, so people would stop swinging from his nuts so much. I mean, some of the facts here are just twisted to make him look awesome. Like the whole never being dropped thing, he was absolutely out on his feet when Fujita cracked him. He did show awesome recovery and composure to hold on and get the W, but he was as good as dropped in my books.

Also, the lindland thing, just becouse we weighed close to fedor still doesnt justify him as a HW imo. Any fighter can pack on some extra fat to make up weight, just looking at him in that fight you can clearly see he wasnt a HW. 90% of LHWs have more muscle on them than he did that fight.


All in all, Fedor is in fact awesome, and the best fighter out there at the moment, but jeez, take your tounge out of his arse. Fedor has the best striking in mma? Yeh his punching is good, and undoubtedly very powerful, but how often do you see him throw a kick or a knee? Silly claim if you ask me.



100%

I have nothing against fedor, hes an awesome fighter, but your fact and fiction thing gets on my nerves.

For those of u who watch "The Office", does this Fact thing remind u of Dwight?
Fact: "Bears beats battle star galactica" lol

Naturaldisaster
9/29/08 2:42:55PM
fedor may be the best HW in the world and one of the best fighters ever but he doesnt have the best striking. This whole post kinda pisses me off. cuz fedor is great, theres no doubt of that, but he's not invincible! theres gonna come a day when he's gonna get beat.
MALICE
9/29/08 2:59:31PM

Posted by Aaronno9


Posted by disorderlyvision

perhaps it's called being humble



I think hes just pointing out that alot of the "proof" in the first post doesnt exactly hold much water.



Exaclty, Thank You Aaronno9
mkiv9secsupra
9/29/08 3:10:50PM
MYTH: Fedor needs a thread posted every 5.3 seconds of the day.

FACT: No one really cares about threads that are repeated daily.

PROOF: Well......just read the posts on this thread.







Come on. We all know Fedor is the #1 HW and arguably the #1 P4P fighter. There is no point in this thread. We have all heard the quotes and know the back stories......
Boo_Radley21
9/29/08 3:48:19PM
Wow. Whoever wrote that needs to release the nuts. Fedor is an amazing fighter but this article is just ridiculous.
Branwest
9/29/08 5:21:06PM
This is absurd. Those are OPINIONS, not facts. There may be some fighters that don't want to fight Fedor, but Randy isn't afraid to fight anyone.
The UFC isn't afraid of Fedor. However, they would like to sign a multi-fight contract with him, not just one or two. There are many HW's who would kill for an opportuntiy to fight Fedor. If you are a HW and you don't want to fight him, then you shouldn't be fighting anyone. I believe most fighters would love to fight him. I don't think Fedor is scared of anyone, I believe he's the best HW in the world, but I don't believe there are many in the UFC who are scared of Fedor. Tim jumped at an opportunity to fight him. Barnett and AA are both trying to get that opportunity. Randy almost retired because he couldn't get that opportunity.
Let's be realistic. You can't say things are facts that involve someone's feelings and thoughts when you don't know that person and have never talked to them. This article is complete BS and shouldn't have been posted. I believe most of the real, longtime MMA fans know the truth.
How can you say that Fedor has the best striking in MMA? That is just absurd and shows your lack of knowledge. That is laughable. Fedor has damn good standup, but you couldn't put it on par with the likes of Anderson Silva or Miguel Torres, or many other fighters. He can definately hold his own standing up, and then some, and the fact that he hasn't been knocked out is a testament to his chin, and his standup skills, but he does NOT have the best standup in MMA.
hippysmacker
9/29/08 7:53:27PM

Posted by Branwest

This is absurd. Those are OPINIONS, not facts. There may be some fighters that don't want to fight Fedor, but Randy isn't afraid to fight anyone.
The UFC isn't afraid of Fedor. However, they would like to sign a multi-fight contract with him, not just one or two. There are many HW's who would kill for an opportuntiy to fight Fedor. If you are a HW and you don't want to fight him, then you shouldn't be fighting anyone. I believe most fighters would love to fight him. I don't think Fedor is scared of anyone, I believe he's the best HW in the world, but I don't believe there are many in the UFC who are scared of Fedor. Tim jumped at an opportunity to fight him. Barnett and AA are both trying to get that opportunity. Randy almost retired because he couldn't get that opportunity.
Let's be realistic. You can't say things are facts that involve someone's feelings and thoughts when you don't know that person and have never talked to them. This article is complete BS and shouldn't have been posted. I believe most of the real, longtime MMA fans know the truth.
How can you say that Fedor has the best striking in MMA? That is just absurd and shows your lack of knowledge. That is laughable. Fedor has damn good standup, but you couldn't put it on par with the likes of Anderson Silva or Miguel Torres, or many other fighters. He can definately hold his own standing up, and then some, and the fact that he hasn't been knocked out is a testament to his chin, and his standup skills, but he does NOT have the best standup in MMA.




Totally agree. The thread starter doesn't understand the definition of a fact , and apparently doesn't know what an opinion is either . I personally think Fedor is the best heavyweight in the world currently, and the best the sport has ever seen , but that doesn't make it a fact. It's post like the one that started this pointless thread, that make me not want to waste my time posting.
Naturaldisaster
9/29/08 9:20:02PM
I think fedor nuthuggery threads should be banned
mrkennedy
9/29/08 10:23:58PM

Posted by Aaronno9

You know, i love to watch Fedor fight, and i have him number 1 p4p and HW, but its articles like this that make me wish hed just take that one loss, so people would stop swinging from his nuts so much. I mean, some of the facts here are just twisted to make him look awesome. Like the whole never being dropped thing, he was absolutely out on his feet when Fujita cracked him. He did show awesome recovery and composure to hold on and get the W, but he was as good as dropped in my books.

Also, the lindland thing, just becouse we weighed close to fedor still doesnt justify him as a HW imo. Any fighter can pack on some extra fat to make up weight, just looking at him in that fight you can clearly see he wasnt a HW. 90% of LHWs have more muscle on them than he did that fight.


All in all, Fedor is in fact awesome, and the best fighter out there at the moment, but jeez, take your tounge out of his arse. Fedor has the best striking in mma? Yeh his punching is good, and undoubtedly very powerful, but how often do you see him throw a kick or a knee? Silly claim if you ask me.



fonduktoe
9/29/08 10:30:02PM
yeah
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