Fedor Will Lose His Next Fight!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Taylor8766
...he will lose that fight because he's gunna come in like every other fighter did when they fought Couture and that is by thinking that there's no way that this old man is gunna beat me and he will train alot less harder...

...he has never been in a takedown situation with Randy who would run through him, look what he did to Chuck and Gonzaga.

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Your number one problem is assuming he will underestimate Couture and stop training What are you basing this on? Are you a pychic? I call BS. Fedor, the number one HW and Pride champ beat Matt Lindland, the number 3 MW. I don't think Fedor has any problems with underestimating his opponents.

Second, you need to watch more Fedor. He has great TD defense and is also very good on the ground. You use Chuck as an example? Chuck, 205lbs KO'd Randy twice. Need I say more? If a 205lbs Chuck can, then Fedor certainly can. And Gonzaga, he is only known for beating Cro Cop... so did Fedor.

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Posted by Taylor8766

Fedor would most likely beat them but against guys like Gonzaga, Arlovski, Vera and Couture I think he would lose.

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He'd lose to Gonzaga? The only reason Gonzaga's name is big is because he beat Cro Cop. Fedor did to.
He'd lose to Arlovski? I am a huge Arlovski fan, but that's just dumb. Arlovski was beaten twice by Sylvia. He cannot beat Fedor.
He'd lose to Vera? As far as I am concerned Vera is a nobody. He beat a bunch of cans; Eilers, Mir and Assuerio Silva. Is that really impressive?

GSP had personal issues before that fight, he says he did and gets raped, Randy said the reason he lost to chuck was his divorce, thats fine he's randy. Mirko doesn't train seriously and fights for the paycheck, watch 95% of his fights before coming to the UFC, he has never looked like that before. You cannot bank of Fedor coming and not taking things seriously. Fedor has beaten the who's who of the HW div. Randy's beaten Tim, and GG since coming back, still IMHO those guys aren't top 7, not saying randy has something to prove career wise, but he's still got to fight Nog, Mirko, Josh again, among others. I would like to see all these fights, but guys Fedor's 30, 14 years younger, fought better HW competition, his strengths are in the same general area as Randy's, and he's got better GnP then anyone. I'm in no way saying Fedor's invincible, but he doesn't seem to get hurt outside on incident with Fujita. I believe Randy could win, but it would have to be a cut stoppage or a UFC hometown stoppage/SD.

Well Taylor, you said that Andrei Arlovski could beat Fedor. Fedor is like Arlovski times 4 in every way. The only difference is that if I saw wolf-man Arlovski on the street, I'd run away. I'd probably go and shake Fedor's hand and then get armbar'd. Fedor vs Tim Sylvia...joke? Fedor would smash Tim Sylvia just like Randy Couture did. Gonzaga? Brandon Vera? Cheik freakin Kongo? You must be on one hell of a drug to think those last 3 guys are even close to getting into Fedor's league.

lol I didn't even see the kongo comment, that would be a great ground war

Taylor:

Simple:

1. Fedor doesn't care about how old is Randy, supporting your ideas on this fact shows your limited brain capacity.

2. A judo and sambo fighter that doesn't have good TD defense??? Once again supporting yourself with nonsense.

Stay in school, if you are.

If retarded threads like this start popping up on this site all the time i will be very depressed. Your thread title just sounds completely ignorant and your reasonings are not clear at all.

He's not as off as many of you suggest. Listen to what he's saying. No one is unbeatable. And it is a fact that Pride has overated the Heavyweight division, just cause you lose to Fedor dont mean that's great compition. Big Nog until a see a strong performance, I'm not really sure about. He has a great rep, and I have seen a lot of his fights, but I better see improvement. Cro Cop was exposed, in a big way. From the beginning of the fight, to the end, on the feet, on the ground. Remember these fights are now in the Octagon. It is my very strong belief that the Octagon and the rules in the Cage, bring out the real best fighter. Josh Barnett was roided up when he fought Randy, and Josh is overated, and was knocked around by Pedro Rizzo, and has not been able to beat Cro Cop in 3 tries. Sergei was knocked out by Allistair Oveereem who normally fights in a lower weight class. I won't disprect Fedor the person if he does not step into the Octagon but I will lose respect for Fedor the fighter. His last fight against Matt Lindland, come on, that's an overated fighter who'se 2 weight classes lighter than him, and almost got him in the beginning of the fight, he got struck by a non striker, and if Fedor does not do an illegal ring grab Matt would have fared better, still not won but lasted for more in the contest. Now his next fight may be against Gilbert Yvel, I mean Fedor what are you thinking. Is Rich Franklin or Chris Leben up next. If they fought Fedor and Randy, yes I have Fedor ranked number 1 Pound for Pound but I would take Randy, especially if it in Fedor first UFC fight. Randy is getting better as he gets older. Sweet dreams.

Every fricking thread on Fedor ends with "no one is unbeatable" (which no one disagrees with) and "even though no one is unbeatable Fedor is still a high favorite against many match-ups" (which I also think many people agree on.) These are just double threads on top of double threads on top of double threads.

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Posted by Copenhagen

Every fricking thread on Fedor ends with "no one is unbeatable" (which no one disagrees with) and "even though no one is unbeatable Fedor is still a high favorite against many match-ups" (which I also think many people agree on.) These are just double threads on top of double threads on top of double threads.

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im not even going to dignify this with a response because................no

Taylor, I'm not saying those guys can't beat Fedor-Im saying they won't. You don't understand my F'ing logic? Your statements are completely ilogical. Your whole "anyone can beat anyone on a given day theory", Well no SH*t genius, everyone here knows that. If you believe Coutoure can beat Fedor thats reasonable. But to say those other guys WILL beat Fedor is retarded. If Taylor is right i guess we're gonna see Fedor drop 6 fights in a row. Your theory sucked, plain and simple. We all say stupid things-we just have to move on.

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Posted by Taylor8766

I'm not dimantling his accomplishments I agree that he is one of the best heavyweights in the world, but I don't think that he would beat Couture. And I've seen lots of his fights and he is impressive but I still don't think he could beat Couture.

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do you realize that Fedor is better at everything that Couture does?

everyone is just excited that he is doing this at 44 years old, i bet any money that if this had happened when he was 30 we wouldnt even mention about randy being better than fedor, if anything people would be saying randy is overrated. because he beat a paper champ, and an overhyped contender that didnt deserve to be there in the first place...

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Posted by juanez13

everyone is just excited that he is doing this at 44 years old, i bet any money that if this had happened when he was 30 we wouldnt even mention about randy being better than fedor, if anything people would be saying randy is overrated. because he beat a paper champ, and an overhyped contender that didnt deserve to be there in the first place...

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One of the best things said in this thread, especially the part about Sylvia and Gonzaga.

Ok what I'm saying is that Fedor is an excellent fighter that would beat all of the fighters I have named I agree with that but what I'm saying is that any of those guys could beat Fedor(except Kongo and Sylvia I realize that was a mistake), and what you guys don't realize is that if Fedor did come to the UFC the rules change and thats what happened to Cro Cop he didn't train for these aspects. However if Fedor did come to the UFC there is no doubt in my mind that he would train these aspects very hard, but when he has his first fight he won't be used to being out up against the cage, if Couture got him in a clinch, and he wouldn't be used to elbows, he might be a great success or not so much who knows until it happens right?

You rank Ed Herman top 10 I don't know if I can come up with 10 guys worse then him!

I needed that...damn my ribs hurt, good one, man!

And you still rank Liddell above Jackson? Wow...I bet you think Liddell could beat Fedor too, right!

See but Fedor SHOULD learn from what happend to Mirko, I really hope everyone does. Fedor's an incredibly intelligent fighter and he won't have a problem with the transition. Sure there are people who could beat him, but if Fedor's fighting at his mental and physical peak, he'll only lose by cut.

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Posted by sakurabaforever

You rank Ed Herman top 10 I don't know if I can come up with 10 guys worse then him!

I needed that...damn my ribs hurt, good one, man!

And you still rank Liddell above Jackson? Wow...I bet you think Liddell could beat Fedor too, right!

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Sakuraba, you have some great points on your post, but if anyone looks at your rankings, I dont know who you can talk about someone's rankings, here's a snippett of yours

No Chuck Liddell in the LHW top 10

BJ Penn ranked 8 among lightweights when he is higher on some peoples pound for pound list lol

Matt Hughes number 1 Welterweight


Lyoto Machida number 4 LHW

I am not sure how you came up with some of that. It's all for for fun dude.

Fedor isn't the same fighter as Mirko at all though. Mirko relies on range to strike his opponent. Fedor relies on range as well, but when he's put into a clinch, he waits for the reversal, and he's powerful enough to strongarm himself out of the clinch as well. Granted, he hasn't face the clinch of Randy Couture yet so that has yet to be determined if he can power out of Randy's clinch.

Gonzaga was able to stay on his feet for a few takedown attempts. And Fedor's Sambo is judo and ju-jitsu put together. He has the ability to fall correctly in order to recovery quickly, as well as lean on the fence to reverse. As smart as Randy is, I wonder if he will even try to go for the takedowns a lot during a battle with Fedor. The dirty boxing clinch seems like his best hope.

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Posted by mkiv9secsupra

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Posted by Taylor8766

I'm not dimantling his accomplishments I agree that he is one of the best heavyweights in the world, but I don't think that he would beat Couture. And I've seen lots of his fights and he is impressive but I still don't think he could beat Couture.

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do you realize that Fedor is better at everything that Couture does?

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I disagree. Fedor has not been proven to be better in the clinch and has not shown aptitude in throwing elbows. Randy is awesome in both.

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Posted by nubby

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Posted by mkiv9secsupra

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Posted by Taylor8766

I'm not dimantling his accomplishments I agree that he is one of the best heavyweights in the world, but I don't think that he would beat Couture. And I've seen lots of his fights and he is impressive but I still don't think he could beat Couture.

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do you realize that Fedor is better at everything that Couture does?

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I disagree. Fedor has not been proven to be better in the clinch and has not shown aptitude in throwing elbows. Randy is awesome in both.

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ok well ALMOST everything. Darth Fedor would end the fight on the ground with a submission anyways so Randys clinch wouldnt come into play too much.

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Posted by nubby

Ok Coleman is a better wrestler than Randy how? I mean please provide some kind of reasoning for that kind of statement. Coleman may have wrestling credentials from college, but that doesn't make him a better wrestler in MMA, I think we have proven that fact especially with GSP's dismantling of Kos in their fight. And really, who the hell has Colemen beat since 1997? Can you name a single victory that is even worthy of mentioning?

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He won the 2000 OP Grand Prix by beating Igor Vovchanchyn, I'd say that is an accomplishment. I agree Randy is a better wrestler though. Coleman is way too brash and usually tries to duke it out.

The only response to that I have is: Who?

I mean Igor Vovchanchyn won a gran prix but the dude has wins over pretty much mediocre fighters with the exception of Sakuraba, who I have always felt to be overrated. So again, he doesn't really have any meaningful wins.

I agree in the fact that i do believe if randy fights fedor the way he did tim and gabe that he will beat fedor.if randy slammed fedor like randleman did,randy wouldnt make a mistake and then get caught in a armbar...........i think that with his age randy becomes more smart in the way he fights i mean his head movement is so quick its amazing and his will to win.I dont agree with all the fighters that u say can beat him maybe vera but not likely....Randy i think has the greatest chance of anyone i also wanna see fedor and mark hunt again

I could never see Randy slamming Fedor like Randleman did. The two work on a completely different level as far as slamming people goes. Randleman is extremely strong (/on roids) and explosive as hell. Couture usually has a lot more clean takedowns that put him in line for better position when they hit the ground. Randleman seemed to be going for the KO.

If Fedor's first fight is against Couture, and Couture is in the shape he was just in against GG, Couture will beat Fedor.

I have a few things to say
1. Courtue is a smarter fighter than Randleman and Colman so I would compare him to either
2.Courture has a week chin and Fedor explodes with his punches
3.Courture uses that clinch so he has less of a chance to be knocked out.
4. It would be a mistake to take Fedor down he is too good down there.

5. If Courture is gonna stand a chance use the clinch

6. I would love to see the fight

Fedor's just as good off his back, and he's a better wrestler then Randy. Yes, sambo is wrestling. I don't really get why people completly change their opinions after ONE fight, I see people in here who picked GG to romp randy and fedor! Now they're just changing, and what happens if Nog goes in and demolishes randy? His bandwagon will be next?

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Posted by cmill21

Fedor's just as good off his back, and he's a better wrestler then Randy. Yes, sambo is wrestling. I don't really get why people completly change their opinions after ONE fight, I see people in here who picked GG to romp randy and fedor! Now they're just changing, and what happens if Nog goes in and demolishes randy? His bandwagon will be next?

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Probably, people like to bandwagon don't they? They just want to seem smart by jumping off the bandwagon after it flipped over and crashed. Are people going to jump on the Cheik Kongo bandwagon if he beats CroCop? Are people going to say he will beat Fedor and Couture?

Garenteed. I can't stand bandwagon jumpers. My favorite hockey team is the chicago blackhawks, so no one can accuse me of that lol. I just think if you like a fighter then like them, cheer for them don't switch from fighter to fighter based on who they just beat.