Fedor Will Lose His Next Fight!!!!!!!!!!

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Taylor8766
8/27/07 1:57:21PM
Ok before any of you guys think that I hate Fedor I don't I'm just stated reality and that is that if he signs with the UFC he will get an autmatic title shot against Couture, however he will lose that fight because he's gunna come in like every other fighter did when they fought Couture and that is by thinking that there's no way that this old man is gunna beat me and he will train alot less harder. While Couture will train like he's never trained before because he's going up against what a lot of people consider the greatest fighter in MMA history, and he would destroy Fedor. Alot of people say that Fedor has amazing takedown defense however he has never been in a takedown situation with Randy who would run through him, look what he did to Chuck and Gonzaga. I believe that if he did sign with the UFC he wouldn't just lose to Couture he would lose to Arlovski, Sylvia, Gonzaga, Vera and Kongo. Now I'm not saying that Fedor isn't amoung the best he holds notable victories over Nogueria, Cro Cop and Hunt but alot of people give him way too much credit, he does deserve alot but not that much and alot of people will jump off the bandwagon if he signs with the UFC and fights Couture and gets beat.
LR
8/27/07 2:03:35PM
LOL...
pv3Hpv3p
8/27/07 2:11:02PM
No he won't
Jackelope
8/27/07 2:11:28PM
I should have known by the bunches of exclamation points that this thread would be filled with a bunch of nonsense.

I don't even know where to begin. So I'm not going to.
Twenty20Dollars
8/27/07 2:12:46PM
like omg, if fedor does sign with the ufc im pretty sure he is bound to lose a fight. i just dont like all the hype behind fedor, oh hes unbeatable. no one is
fullerene
8/27/07 2:13:15PM
The original post is much better than I expected after reading the title. I would actually describe it as only "very bad".
Jackelope
8/27/07 2:14:25PM
I love Chuck, but I don't love the fact that his picture as a forum avatar seems to scream... well.... posts like this. To be diplomatic about what I'm trying to say, anyway.
juanez13
8/27/07 2:23:38PM
Taylor8766

The Reason That FEDOR is the greatest Fighter in MMA history is because he never took anyone lightly....
LR
8/27/07 2:29:29PM
If you really want to laugh, check out his top 10 rankings.
pv3Hpv3p
8/27/07 2:30:55PM
To be honest, I didn't read most of your opening post before my first comment... So I'd like to add...


if he signs with the UFC he will get an autmatic title shot against Couture, however he will lose that fight because he's gunna come in like every other fighter did when they fought Couture and that is by thinking that there's no way that this old man is gunna beat me and he will train alot less harder


Fedor will not train a lot less harder, he will train like he does for every other fight, and that's scary... Gonzaga probably trained harder than he's ever trained in his life for his fight with Randy... I just don't get this statemen


Alot of people say that Fedor has amazing takedown defense however he has never been in a takedown situation with Randy who would run through him, look what he did to Chuck and Gonzaga


Chuck and GG are no where near Fedor's level, especially when it comes to being well rounded... Randy would run through him? Really? C'mon...


...he wouldn't just lose to Couture he would lose to Arlovski, Sylvia, Gonzaga, Vera and Kongo...


Huh? Kongo? Sylvia? Vera? Huh? Arlovski might put up a decent fight, but Fedor has much better sambo, and can dictate where this fight will be fought.


All in all, this is some silly stuff man... You even say that Fedor is one of the best fighters in the world, then you think he'd lose to guy's like Kongo and Big Tim??? Just don't make sense... There's a reason everyone thinks he's the best #4#


nubby
8/27/07 2:36:36PM
I agree that I think Fedor would lose to Randy but not for the reasons the original poster mentioned. My personal feeling is that the competition in the heavy weight division in pride was not as good as it seemed. I have no doubts that Filipovic and Nog are great fighters but they are also overrated and Nog's first fight against a heavy weight contender in the UFC will prove this.

Like he did with Sylvia and Gonzaga, Randy will come out with ferocity. Fedor won't blink. It's not something that happens to him. But when the fight eventually gets to the ground, Couture will be on top and will rain down elbows. Fedor, like Filipovic won't be ready for the effect. The result is a called fight in the 4th round by gnp.

Transitions be damned, Couture is no Randleman on the ground, so don't expect a reversal like that to happen.
Taylor8766
8/27/07 2:38:52PM
so basically what you gusy are saying is that fedor is invincible, just like GSp was until he got KOed, just like Cro Cop was before he got KTFO, and just like how Jardine was gunna run through Alexander, what you guys have to realize is that Fedor is beatable.
nubby
8/27/07 2:43:04PM

Posted by Taylor8766

so basically what you gusy are saying is that fedor is invincible, just like GSp was until he got KOed, just like Cro Cop was before he got KTFO, and just like how Jardine was gunna run through Alexander, what you guys have to realize is that Fedor is beatable.


No what they are saying is that Fedor is the most dominant Heavy Weight of MMA. I don't necessarily agree with it but you have been making some absolutely ludicrous statements in the past hour. I would suggest you calm down a little bit and actually watch Fedor fight before you come in here and dismantle his accomplishments.
LR
8/27/07 2:46:32PM
I fully expect a reversal. Coleman is stronger and bigger than Randy with better wrestling, and Fedor reversed. The mistake Coleman made was miniscule. He put his arm on the mat. And it was over. Couture did the SAME EXACT mistake against Inoue. Now, that was such a long time ago, but that submission transition to armbar from that position is nearly unstoppable. If the fighter on his back can pull that off, it's over, and it can't be stopped unless you pull out fast enough. If you can pull that kind of transition off, having a wrestler on top of you is a disadvantage to that wrestler.

That's just one example. I see Fedor taking it 1st or 2nd round submission.
Taylor8766
8/27/07 2:51:35PM
I'm not dimantling his accomplishments I agree that he is one of the best heavyweights in the world, but I don't think that he would beat Couture. And I've seen lots of his fights and he is impressive but I still don't think he could beat Couture.
nubby
8/27/07 2:52:52PM
Ok Coleman is a better wrestler than Randy how? I mean please provide some kind of reasoning for that kind of statement. Coleman may have wrestling credentials from college, but that doesn't make him a better wrestler in MMA, I think we have proven that fact especially with GSP's dismantling of Kos in their fight. And really, who the hell has Colemen beat since 1997? Can you name a single victory that is even worthy of mentioning?
fullerene
8/27/07 2:53:48PM

Posted by Taylor8766

I'm not dimantling his accomplishments I agree that he is one of the best heavyweights in the world, but I don't think that he would beat Couture. And I've seen lots of his fights and he is impressive but I still don't think he could beat Couture.


You are "dimantling" them.

P.S: A thread titled "I think Couture can beat Fedor" with only one--or perhaps even zero--exclamation points will draw a lot less heat than this one did.
Taylor8766
8/27/07 2:55:58PM
How am I dismantling his accomplishments please enlighten me. I wanted it to draw heat so that people knew how I felt about Couture and Fedor, also I agree that Coleman is nothing in wrestling compared to Couture.
LR
8/27/07 2:57:38PM
Well, he dominated Shogun Rua. But yes, you can make the argument that there really is no proof that he is a better wrestler than Couture other than credentials. Coleman actually made the Olympic team and placed in Barcelona, Couture couldn't make the team. Close, but never made it. That's my only evidence, so ya got me. But.. I still think the Coleman fights were significant in proving Fedor could beat a top level wrestler. And Coleman is still hinted at coming to the UFC, so maybe we can add evidence to my argument.
nubby
8/27/07 3:01:43PM
Um, Coleman did not dominate Rua, did you even watch that fight?
LR
8/27/07 3:03:36PM
Fair enough, if I remember correctly.
Jackelope
8/27/07 4:05:59PM

Posted by Taylor8766

How am I dismantling his accomplishments please enlighten me. I wanted it to draw heat so that people knew how I felt about Couture and Fedor, also I agree that Coleman is nothing in wrestling compared to Couture.



Well you've certainly "dismantled' his accomplishments by saying he could be beaten by the likes of some of the guys you mentioned.

Fedor has beaten arguably the two number one strikers in the world (Filipovic, Hunt) and he's trained extensively with a man people consider to be one of the best strikers ever in Hoost.

He's beaten some of the best and strongest wrestlers in the world (Lindland, Coleman, Randleman, Fujita)

He's beaten some of the best grapplers in the world (Big Nog, Babalu, Arona)

What else does the guy have to prove? I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good fight between he and Couture, but... Cheick Kongo? hahaha

nubby
8/27/07 4:32:59PM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Taylor8766

How am I dismantling his accomplishments please enlighten me. I wanted it to draw heat so that people knew how I felt about Couture and Fedor, also I agree that Coleman is nothing in wrestling compared to Couture.



Well you've certainly "dismantled' his accomplishments by saying he could be beaten by the likes of some of the guys you mentioned.

Fedor has beaten arguably the two number one strikers in the world (Filipovic, Hunt) and he's trained extensively with a man people consider to be one of the best strikers ever in Hoost.

He's beaten some of the best and strongest wrestlers in the world (Lindland, Coleman, Randleman, Fujita)

He's beaten some of the best grapplers in the world (Big Nog, Babalu, Arona)

What else does the guy have to prove? I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good fight between he and Couture, but... Cheick Kongo? hahaha




Exactly.
Taylor8766
8/27/07 4:36:13PM
Ok maybe Kongo and Sylvia were bad choices Fedor would most likely beat them but against guys like Gonzaga, Arlovski, Vera and Couture I think he would lose.
DJDark41
8/27/07 4:46:55PM

Posted by Taylor8766

so basically what you gusy are saying is that fedor is invincible, just like GSp was until he got KOed, just like Cro Cop was before he got KTFO, and just like how Jardine was gunna run through Alexander, what you guys have to realize is that Fedor is beatable.








Actually...pretty much everyone knew that GSP/CroCop were gonna be tough to beat but not invinceable. Its just that no one thought they would get beat by the people they did. And Jardine, well that was just a sloppy performance.




Fedor is beatable, but it is still gonna take one hell of a fighter to beat Fedor. Is that fighter Randy Couture? Maybe. But we will have to wait to find out.
Taylor8766
8/27/07 5:37:03PM
True, however no one ever expected GSP, Cro Cop and Jardine to lose and the people that the lost to are said to be the 3 greatest upsets in MMA history, now if your saying it's gunna take a special fighter to take out Fedor, alot of people said the same think about GSP and that he would rule the division as the champ for a long time, but he got KO by and underdog. Same thing with Cro Cop people said he was gunna wreck havoc on the HW division and look what happened to him. It's possible that's what I'm trying to get across to everyone but everyone keeps thinking that Im putting him down which I'm not Im just saying that it is very possible for him to lose his next fight, and he's not invincible.
Schizoidman
8/27/07 5:41:35PM
I think Couture vs. Fedor would be one of the greatest heavyweight fights to date. The thing we need to realize is that Fedor and Couture are two of the best tactical fighters in the world. They both come in with a game plan, and they both execute to perfection. Randy's style has changed incredibly over the years, and both men put a lot of thought in how to beat their opponent. They study like crazy and capitalize on the other fighter's weakness. Mark Hunt - submit. Cro Cop - keep him back pedaling. Nogueira - stand up. Fujita - get stunned? clench up, take him down, and submit him. Not like Diego Sanchez and Kos who all of a sudden think they're stand-up fighters. They don't try to prove themselves to the world in areas that they are weak (Couture and Fedor). They study their opponents and capitalize on the areas that they are weak. This would be an incredible match up. I don't think there are two smarter men in the world of fighting.
Jackelope
8/27/07 5:43:13PM

Posted by Schizoidman

I think Couture vs. Fedor would be one of the greatest heavyweight fights to date. The thing we need to realize is that Fedor and Couture are two of the best tactical fighters in the world. They both come in with a game plan, and they both execute to perfection. Randy's style has changed incredibly over the years, and both men put a lot of thought in how to beat their opponent. They study like crazy and capitalize on the other fighter's weakness. Mark Hunt - submit. Cro Cop - keep him back pedaling. Nogueira - stand up. Fujita - get stunned? clench up, take him down, and submit him. Not like Diego Sanchez and Kos who all of a sudden think they're stand-up fighters. They don't try to prove themselves to the world in areas that they are weak (Couture and Fedor). They study their opponents and capitalize on the areas that they are weak. This would be an incredible match up. I don't think there are two smarter men in the world of fighting.



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fullfighting
8/27/07 5:44:39PM
Taylor with all do respect you're a JACKASS. Sure Fedor can be beaten but you listed 5 or 6 guys that you think will beat him and they are not in his league. Have you not watched Fedor fight? I have no problem with you thinking Randy can beat Fedor, but it seems like you have No respect for Fedor at all.
Taylor8766
8/27/07 6:02:20PM
first off who do you think you are to call me a jackass, yes I've watched Fedor fight but I'm stating that no matter which fight you are you can lose, and I don't see how you don't think any of the fighters I listed aren't in his league, the same thing was once again said for GSP vs. Serra and Cro Cop vs. Gonzaga, so I don't understand any of you F@@King logic
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