Is Fedor Emelianenko a Top-Five Heavyweight?

UFC President Dana White again claimed that he tried to sign the fighter to a UFC contract — even though he thinks Emelianenko isn’t a top-five heavyweight.

White again argued that the only reason he tried to sign Emelianenko was because Couture wanted the fight. Otherwise, he said, Emelianenko is a terribly overrated fighter.

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DW is full of it. If he had signed Fedor he wouldn't quit talking about how he has the #1 P4P fighter in the world.

im a huge dana fan but he is wrong on this one, not only is fedor a top five hw, he is the top hw, his dominance is unprecedented.

I believe he is Top heavyweight at this point but after a couple fights with guys like Monson he will drop quickly........

if fedor isnt gonna be in the top 5 then who is? I doubt dana actually believes what hes saying, but the casual fans will, and since they dont really know anything about this fedor guy, they wont think too much of the ufc not signing him. Dana white's top 5 would probably be randy, nog, sylvia, gonzaga, and vera. The funny thing about that is how can you rank Nog 2nd in the world without ranking fedor first. He's not gonna promote someone from another organization, or someone that he cant or doesnt want to sign as being a top5 fighter.

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Posted by Pyrenus

DW is full of it. If he had signed Fedor he wouldn't quit talking about how he has the #1 P4P fighter in the world.

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i agree with this

well, Fedor is still in my top 5 but he is #5 !!

A ranking is a representation of the actual athlete performance so lets say 2007 performance and not a place when a guy can by on top forever even without fighting or fighting ridiculous opponent !!

it is not because the Steelers where the best team in the 70 that they must be ranged #1 year after year !!

Fedor was # 1 after he beated Big Nog and it was ok, but now he did not fight real competition for a while and in fact it is not him who have dropped in the ranking , it is the others who were more active and were fighting at a real top level who were moving up !!

Fedor can go up again but he will have to do the same thing that he did before and fight real top 5 guys !!

Someone name 5 HWs better than Fedor.....giving reasons.

There isnt.

Here are 4 fighters that should be in anyones top 4. After that, then it is arguamble.

FEDOR
RANDY
BARNETT
BIG NOG

(And 3 are not even ufc fighters)

Deal with the fact that based on past fights...

Fedor > Randy

That wont change until they fight each other or if Fedor gets beat by one of the guys that Randy has wins over in HW.

Like it or not, facts based on previous fights no matter what year are your only tool to say this guys is better than this one.

What a BAD analogy using the steelers, the team changed, players are not the same, here we're talking about the same guy,SINGLE person. The only thing that doesn't change for TEAMS are the names

what Dana said about Fedor in the press conference didnt have sence to me...
the way i see it Dana is mad at Fedor for saying "no" to the UFC, and now the easies thing for Dana is start talking trash and say that he never wanted to signed him, and if he was trying was 'cause Couture was asking for that fight.

and Fedor really is the Nº 1 HW in the world

dana the ultimate ufc nuthugger. makes sense hes the president of it but he just want to say he has the better fighters and is hopin the pride guys lose o hell talk bout all the ones he cant sign, but where is Sokoudjou.

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Posted by Ordep

Deal with the fact that based on past fights...

Fedor > Randy

That wont change until they fight each other or if Fedor gets beat by one of the guys that Randy has wins over in HW.

Like it or not, facts based on previous fights no matter what year are your only tool to say this guys is better than this one.

What a BAD analogy using the steelers, the team changed, players are not the same, here we're talking about the same guy,SINGLE person. The only thing that doesn't change for TEAMS are the names

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Yeah man and the FIGHTER are evolving too man !!!
some are doing better and some are doing worse, and also some are not fighting or fighting low level competition.

accordind to you, we have to put Mohamed Ali on top of the boxing HW ranking because he was the best many years ago and nobody can beat him now because he is no longer fighting man !!!

also, according to you if Fedor lose a fight but it is not against a guy that Randy have beated, he will still be #1 ??? Ridiculous !!!

why are you so AFRAID of dropping Fedor in the ranking ???
it is a total disrespect for the others fighters who are fighting real actual top competition to try to move up in the ranking !!!

they can destroy everybody but according to you , because Fedor was #1 some years ago , he have his spot forever even if he fight no body or ridiculous opponent !!!

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Posted by tuvok500

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Posted by Ordep

Deal with the fact that based on past fights...

Fedor > Randy

That wont change until they fight each other or if Fedor gets beat by one of the guys that Randy has wins over in HW.

Like it or not, facts based on previous fights no matter what year are your only tool to say this guys is better than this one.

What a BAD analogy using the steelers, the team changed, players are not the same, here we're talking about the same guy,SINGLE person. The only thing that doesn't change for TEAMS are the names

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Yeah man and the FIGHTER are evolving too man !!!
some are doing better and some are doing worse, and also some are not fighting or fighting low level competition.

accordind to you, we have to put Mohamed Ali on top of the boxing HW ranking because he was the best many years ago and nobody can beat him now because he is no longer fighting man !!!

also, according to you if Fedor lose a fight but it is not against a guy that Randy have beated, he will still be #1 ??? Ridiculous !!!

why are you so AFRAID of dropping Fedor in the ranking ???
it is a total disrespect for the others fighters who are fighting real actual top competition to try to move up in the ranking !!!

they can destroy everybody but according to you , because Fedor was #1 some years ago , he have his spot forever even if he fight no body or ridiculous opponent !!!

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Mi point wasn't about Fedor being #1, was based on Fedor > Randy ......... I never mentioned who's #1, I was talking whos better between them and using the only tool available it's obvious that Fedor > Randy ,

I love how Fedor is > Randy.......the only explanation you have is this >? Why is Fedor better, who was the last person of genuine quality that he beat? Hmmm yeah he is pretty awesome huh? I really could care less about Fedor, but now more than ever I am praying that he will fight couture...it will be a royal ass whooping. Randy actually fights, and he brings it everytime. I bet Fedor sits on his ass at home and watches Randy on PPV and prays that he never has to fight him. His talk is all crap, if he wanted to fight Randy he would have went to the UFC, its plain and simple, he obviously does not want to fight the best.

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Posted by Ordep

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Posted by tuvok500

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Posted by Ordep

Deal with the fact that based on past fights...

Fedor > Randy

That wont change until they fight each other or if Fedor gets beat by one of the guys that Randy has wins over in HW.

Like it or not, facts based on previous fights no matter what year are your only tool to say this guys is better than this one.

What a BAD analogy using the steelers, the team changed, players are not the same, here we're talking about the same guy,SINGLE person. The only thing that doesn't change for TEAMS are the names

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Yeah man and the FIGHTER are evolving too man !!!
some are doing better and some are doing worse, and also some are not fighting or fighting low level competition.

accordind to you, we have to put Mohamed Ali on top of the boxing HW ranking because he was the best many years ago and nobody can beat him now because he is no longer fighting man !!!

also, according to you if Fedor lose a fight but it is not against a guy that Randy have beated, he will still be #1 ??? Ridiculous !!!

why are you so AFRAID of dropping Fedor in the ranking ???
it is a total disrespect for the others fighters who are fighting real actual top competition to try to move up in the ranking !!!

they can destroy everybody but according to you , because Fedor was #1 some years ago , he have his spot forever even if he fight no body or ridiculous opponent !!!

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Mi point wasn't about Fedor being #1, was based on Fedor > Randy ......... I never mentioned who's #1, I was talking whos better between them and using the only tool available it's obvious that Fedor > Randy ,

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you do realize that your " i'm with stupid " is pointing directly to your sentence man !!

you can try to save your ass by contradicting yourself with this other reply but nobody is crazy enough to believe that you are not biassed when it come to rank a guy who did not fight real competition for a while and that you are still telling us that the guy is better that couture even if couture is the actual ufc HW champ and that he fought 2 times this year in 2 championship fight !!

don't try to change your point by telling that in fact you never said that fedor is #1 because if you want to put fedor higher than couture you have to put him #1 man !!

are you coming directly from sherdog ???

aha aha and where's Nog?
Yes I came from Sherdog, there was a party there...

Deal with the facts, and not with desire(fiction).

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Posted by Ordep

aha aha and where's Nog?
Yes I came from Sherdog, there was a party there...

Deal with the facts, and not with desire(fiction).

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Nog is second behind couture !!

you have to understand that it is not really fedor who is dropping in the ranking, it is more the others fighters who are doing good in the present years who are going up , like couture is on top now !!

so , the same thing aply to fedor who will go up if he fight a top 10 guy and he win the fight. But he have to fight in the present, the argument of he beated that guy or this guy in 2005 are true for the 2005 ranking but not for the 2007 ranking because he did not fight real competition for a while now !!

Nog don't have to be always behind fedor because he lost to him, he was behind at the moment he lost to him and if the 2 fighter were equally active and they were both fighting at a top level in the present, and they were both winning there fight, fedor would have been above Nog in the ranking but it is not the case here, fedor is not fighting real competition and Nog is in title contention in the UFC !!

Fedor is the most well rounded fighter in mma. Hasn't fought anyone lately? I don't care what anyone says Lindlands a tought fight, Hunts top 10, and it's not like he had any trouble with Zulu, he literally beat him into submission. I really don't care what a bunch of people think, he's barly in my top 10 for favorites, demolished my favorite and I can say he is simply the best mma practitioner ever, why? His base in sambo is as a world champion, he's out kickboxed K-1 champions, he's been in fights with BJJ champs and never been anywhere near danger, been dropped on his head, was touched by a CC LHK(has put ppl to sleep like that), he's literally done it all, you guys say Randy has, Randy hasn't done half the things Fedor has. Like the guy doesn't want to fight in your org, get over it you think he cares if you don't think he's top 5? He's laughing counting his money waiting for your star to come to his house to see what he brings to the table.

Fedor will be a top 5 heavyweight in my book when he beats a top 5 heavyweight

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Posted by MondayNiteMauser

Fedor will be a top 5 heavyweight in my book when he beats a top 5 heavyweight

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Nog x2, Cro Cop, Herring(at the time herring was the favorite), Coleman could have been a top 5 the first time they fought(he won 7 of his 8 fights before it). How many has Randy beat? Maybe Rizzo and maybe Tim.

Fedor just needs to fight soon to demonstrate his skills, and show everybody that he deserves to stay on top. Same goes with Barnett, Penn, and all of these other fighters that are taking way too much time off. If people cant see something, they will begin to doubt it.

a country boy can survive!!!!!

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Posted by jakeiceman

I love how Fedor is > Randy.......the only explanation you have is this >? Why is Fedor better, who was the last person of genuine quality that he beat? Hmmm yeah he is pretty awesome huh? I really could care less about Fedor, but now more than ever I am praying that he will fight couture...it will be a royal ass whooping. Randy actually fights, and he brings it everytime. I bet Fedor sits on his ass at home and watches Randy on PPV and prays that he never has to fight him. His talk is all crap, if he wanted to fight Randy he would have went to the UFC, its plain and simple, he obviously does not want to fight the best.

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One fatal flaw in your argument.

Randy declinded a fight with Fedor in bodog before he came out of retirement.
He was offered $3m. But he declined.

If I was like you, which i am not, I would be saying Randy is scared, afraid.....but that would be stupid wouldn't it? People like Fedor and Randy are not afraid of anyone.

ps. here is a link to randy saying himself he turned down a fight with fedor. Just incase you didnt believe me.

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tuvok my man you can rank your top 5 anyway you want but compairing ali to someone who has fought a bunch in the last 3-4 years and 4 times in the last two is absurd.

the fact that fedor is heavily, heavily, favored over anyone in any hw division makes him the #1 hw imo.

randy has 2 wins at heavyweight. he looked great and did a great job but the guy is 2-2 in his last 4 and hasnt even fought the best in the ufc (big nog). im a huge randy fan but how people think these credentials propel him past fedor is beyond me.

i doubt we will ever see it but i hope that randy and fedor get to fight at some point. ill be cheering for randy! ill be cheering for randy but i wont be holding my breath.

Unless Randy and Fedor fight nobody will know who is #1 if Randy does retire it will be Fedor until he gets beat. But right now i would say it would be between them being first i would rather give it to Randy becuase he is one of my favorites but i think Fedor esges him out slightly i just wish they could fight so everyone could see who is the best.

It looks like Dana pissed alot of people who like to ride Fedors jock, I don't see how you can rank a guy #1 who hasn't really fought anyone lately, just goes to show you how fluffed he is, I think he is top 5 but he needs to fight, Monson will be a good test. You have to admit that the only real fighters he has ever beaten have been nog, and mirco the rest were lame over aged, or under weight, so quit riding Fedor's jock his gut rides it enough.

why is everyone jocking randy's nuts so hard???? who has he beat really? he had to drop to light heavyweight because he couldnt handle the bigger heavyweights. ricco rodriguez, josh barnett, and pedro rizzo (i think rizzo beat randy). he dropped down in weight and got KO'd twice by chuck, and retired. he came out of retirement and bested tim sylvia, and another overrated fighter in gonzaga (why everyone is jocking gonzaga is another mystery to me).

i give randy credit he is a tough sob, and has pulled off some upsets in his carreer that no one though he would win. he is a good fighter. but there is no way he is better than fedor and quite a few other heavyweights, and apparently some light heavy's i.e. chuck. bottom line randy is not the #1 heavyweight in the world

Yeah, Fedor is a top-5 HW, but he is quickly losing ground. The only thing that is keeping him at the top is the fact that Randy is 44, Nog doesn't have a belt, and Kongo is a year away.

I have an idea... since everyone wants to rank Fedor as #1 HW... let's rank Jason Reinhardt #1 LW. Hell he is 18-0, and since it obviously is more important to have a good record than it is to have quality wins, then he certainly deserves it just as much.

fricken dana really knows how to piss people off.....im getting tired of his bullshit statements all of the time