Favorite non major organization

IFL		5%	(3)
WEC		44%	(24)
KOTC		0%	(0)
Strikeforce		11%	(6)
Elite XC		27%	(15)
Other		13%	(7)

I just kind of started watching the lower level MMA events to get to know more of the sport after pride died out and I wanted to know If / What other people watched and what was their favs were.

Before WEC 31 it was the IFL, but they have been putting on subpar shows for the past few months. Then we had WEC 31, and I'm now a WEC fan.

My favorite MMA Organization period is Shooto, for it is the truth, and is what all MMA should be. Granted there are quirks here and there, but they put on the most solid top to bottom cards and almost every fight is a real contest and a blast to watch. I like fighters in all the orgs, but the only one that holds any real significance to me is Shooto.

WEC is the best. Good talent for a smaller organization and it has Frank Mir doing commentary. That and its free and on cable. If you give it to me for free, i will watch it and the commercials you are shoving down my throat. I dont mind.

Gotta go with WEC.

WEC, by far.

WEC...say what you want about Zuffa but they do know how to run a top notch organization.

If only Shooto had english annoucers and Regular Canadian and U.S. PPV deals. It's crazy, for hte talent etc. they have they get little recognition outside of Japan. Sucks that all these other new orgs are getting these big money backers but faithful old shooto is just sort of chugging along. Seriously though guys, give them a look, great org.

http://www.subfighter.com/forum/viewtopic.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=58022

There's a link to get you started, not all of the great bouts by a long shot but still tons of good one. hopefully it will halp you fall in love with the first MM org. as hard as I did.

I dont think that some of these should be considered non major orgs...who are you considering major other than the UFC?? M-1?? Not doing nearly as much business as Elite/XC or WEC!!

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Posted by Believe-in-judo81

My favorite MMA Organization period is Shooto, for it is the truth, and is what all MMA should be. Granted there are quirks here and there, but they put on the most solid top to bottom cards and almost every fight is a real contest and a blast to watch. I like fighters in all the orgs, but the only one that holds any real significance to me is Shooto.

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Right on the money I love watching guys like Lion Tekeshi, Akitoshi Tamura and Hioki, the small guys. They are the most explosive and I won't be suprised if all MMA organizations implement lighter weight classes like Bantumweight and Flyweight, because watching guys like B.j. Kojima is a pleasure, I like watching Moon Wolf Sato because he bring so much charisma and talent to the fight game, much of what I like to see in a fighter. And If you look at all of the big Pride fighters most of them started their career in Shooto so

Props to You !

Dude, that Rumina Sato pic is tits, consider it swiped. Hopefully i get a chance to meet him and say thanks when I'm on duty in Japan.

Mainly due to the fact Ive never watched a whole WEC event, I went with EliteXC, They have some good names.

And Kimbo V Tank!

By the end of 08, WEC will be huge.

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Posted by Believe-in-judo81

If only Shooto had english annoucers and Regular Canadian and U.S. PPV deals. It's crazy, for hte talent etc. they have they get little recognition outside of Japan. Sucks that all these other new orgs are getting these big money backers but faithful old shooto is just sort of chugging along. Seriously though guys, give them a look, great org.

http://www.subfighter.com/forum/viewtopic.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=58022

There's a link to get you started, not all of the great bouts by a long shot but still tons of good one. hopefully it will halp you fall in love with the first MM org. as hard as I did.

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While I enjoy shoot a lot as well, I really don't like the knockdown rule. Also, I am a fan of the cage over ring. So I went with the WE. They focus on the lighter weights, so it could be the North American equivalent of shooto. With Takaya signing there, i expect Faber to have his toughest test as champ.

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Posted by emfleek

WEC, by far.

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You took the words right out of my mouth.

What I don't like about Shooto is the knockdown rule, the insanely stupid gloves with the useless padding, the lack of quality wrestlers, no elbows, Shinichi "BJ" Kojima, some of the worst robberies in the history of the sport and especially the fact that MMA fans often use Shooto as a reference to seem more knowledged and hardcore.

Sure there have been some great fights in shooto and the way it's all been set up is pretty damn good but really?! This is your fav organisation!?

No offense to any of you guys voting for shooto, perhaps you like shooto the most out of all the minor organisations but half of the idiots I've talked to on the different MMA forums that say they're crazy about shooto don't even know who Urushitani or Akitoshi Tamura is!

WEC is the one I'm mostly interested in and sometime I'll watch Elite/XC.

I voted WEC, but i enjoy every others organization aswell.

I like K-1 the best.

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Posted by Believe-in-judo81

My favorite MMA Organization period is Shooto, for it is the truth, and is what all MMA should be. Granted there are quirks here and there, but they put on the most solid top to bottom cards and almost every fight is a real contest and a blast to watch. I like fighters in all the orgs, but the only one that holds any real significance to me is Shooto.

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I agree Shooto isnt just a fight org its a whole system. Its a great one that should be adopted in North America. It would be good For MMA to have its own regulatory body other than state comissions. Having a Amateur circuit created would be good too.
Not to mention they hold show many shows its awesome. They have held more matches than any other org too. Source

I love everything about Shooto, expect for the knockdown rule and the occasional posterboy or Japanese fighter gift decision. Hell, if nothing else, Masatoshi Abe fights there. Not too mention tons of other below 155 fighters. And stickan, anyone who claims to follow Shooto and isn't familiar with Yasu Urashitani is a sad person, awesome striker, best in MMA save Anderson Silva IMO. But yeah, there is some merit to the lack of strong wrestlers thing. After T BLOOD Largely moved on and Kid and many of the other Japanese Wrestling based fighters went elsewhere the bottom sort of fell out on wrestling talent in Shooto. But I'm sure it will change, with rookies coming in every year and all.

Well the best non UFC shows by far are WEC. But I like all MMA.

Id say elitexc and strikeforce are tied for me especially since strikeforce started doin their shows over the internet. i like wec a lot but im not a fan of fightcards bein in the middle of the week(conflicts with work)

So who is in the majors??? Only the ufc???

When I read the topic I thought it was about non major orgs but all that are listed are pretty major with TV deals and DVD,s out

My faverite non major orgs is a local one here in the 360 baby

Look HERE

Just another reason the 360 is the baddest in all the land

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Posted by hotrodttt

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Posted by Believe-in-judo81

My favorite MMA Organization period is Shooto, for it is the truth, and is what all MMA should be. Granted there are quirks here and there, but they put on the most solid top to bottom cards and almost every fight is a real contest and a blast to watch. I like fighters in all the orgs, but the only one that holds any real significance to me is Shooto.

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Right on the money I love watching guys like Lion Tekeshi, Akitoshi Tamura and Hioki, the small guys. They are the most explosive and I won't be suprised if all MMA organizations implement lighter weight classes like Bantumweight and Flyweight, because watching guys like B.j. Kojima is a pleasure, I like watching Moon Wolf Sato because he bring so much charisma and talent to the fight game, much of what I like to see in a fighter. And If you look at all of the big Pride fighters most of them started their career in Shooto so

Props to You !

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Shooto is the issue. do us a favor and expand your horizons outside of Zuffa... Shinya and Norifumi will thank u

Strikeforce...

they got Gilbert Melendez, Frank Shamrock, Cung Le, Paul Bonatello, Bobby Southworth, Phil Baroni, Josh Thomson
based in San Jose they get a lot of fighters from AKA

I wanted to pick Elite but WEC has stacked cards all the time and they are free! Elite need to start having actually good match ups and stop giving their featured fights some nobody so they can beat their face in.