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POLL: Vlad or Lil Nog?
Vlad 20% (7)
Nog 80% (28)
copcopps
9/3/08 11:52:21PM
Is the Janitor such an underdog in his upcoming fight? I have full faith in him to beat Nog. Not finish him but beat him at least. Mainly because wrestling usually beats BJJ

Twenty20Dollars
9/3/08 11:59:05PM
i dont see vlad beating lil nog. Vlad hasnt faced a top guy like lil nog in awhile. Lil nog is better in most of the areas except for the wrestling.
Mr_Dead_Sexy
9/4/08 1:44:10AM
Shhhh. I want the underdog bonus.
Mchubb316
9/4/08 2:39:31AM
Vlad was great in the IFL. I do think that the IFL made fighters look better than they actually are. Rothwell, although showed he is tough, got beat down by AA, Schultz gets knocked out, and Whitehead gets outclassed by Babalu. These 3 fighters were a combined 20-2 in the IFL. Outside the IFL the talent level is much higher, and the competition is greater.
DCRage
9/4/08 8:16:22AM
It's probably "name picking". Nog gets a lot of picks just because of his name and the expectations that come with it, most people probably expect him to win because of it.
copcopps
9/4/08 11:22:28AM
Me too I'm just surprised that a name like Vlady was one
Svartorm
9/6/08 2:49:31AM
I love Vlad, but I'll eat my hat if he wins that fight.
Aaronno9
9/6/08 10:06:20AM
I expect him to win, not becouse of his Jits, but becouse i think he'll also beable to pick vlad apart if it stays standing aswell.
mkiv9secsupra
9/6/08 10:43:39AM
Because Matyushenko has never looked impressive to me, while Nog has been in wars and come out on top, plus his ground game is light years ahead of Vlad which is where this fight is going
casey64
9/6/08 4:05:19PM
Lil Nog will win.
pv3Hpv3p
9/9/08 3:33:48PM

Posted by DCRage

It's probably "name picking". Nog gets a lot of picks just because of his name and the expectations that come with it, most people probably expect him to win because of it.



Or just the fact that Nog is the better, more well rounded fighter... Regardless of names, Nogueira to a lot of people, including me, seems like the much better fighter...

To be honest, I wouldn't have a problem saying that he's the best LHW outside of the UFC
jiujitsufreak74
9/9/08 3:42:36PM

Posted by pv3Hpv3p


Posted by DCRage

It's probably "name picking". Nog gets a lot of picks just because of his name and the expectations that come with it, most people probably expect him to win because of it.



Or just the fact that Nog is the better, more well rounded fighter... Regardless of names, Nogueira to a lot of people, including me, seems like the much better fighter...

To be honest, I wouldn't have a problem saying that he's the best LHW outside of the UFC



would you consider Arona in that category? because if so i feel that Arona is a lot better than Lil Nog.
Rush
9/9/08 3:49:07PM
Because he has the last name Nogueira. Last time I saw a guy with the last name Nogueira, despite never having heard of him before, was a favorite in a secondary league fight. The guy lost his fight.

I am sure that there are a lot of people that pick because of the name or record. I've seen great fighters as underdogs because they had a 15-8 record against a guy that is 2-0.
Wolfenstein
9/9/08 4:21:44PM
Matyushenko beat Lil Nog back in 2002 by outwrestling him, and I fully expect him to do the same 6 years later.

Matyushenko is being underrated because he hasn't faced a lot of topo guys recently and Nog has a big name and some big victoriesover Alistair Overseam and Dan Henderson.

It's going to be a close fight but "the janitor" has much better wrestling and he has never been submitted. He'll keep Nog on his back, GnP, and avoid submissions.
cmill21
9/9/08 9:37:41PM

Posted by jiujitsufreak74


Posted by pv3Hpv3p


Posted by DCRage

It's probably "name picking". Nog gets a lot of picks just because of his name and the expectations that come with it, most people probably expect him to win because of it.



Or just the fact that Nog is the better, more well rounded fighter... Regardless of names, Nogueira to a lot of people, including me, seems like the much better fighter...

To be honest, I wouldn't have a problem saying that he's the best LHW outside of the UFC



would you consider Arona in that category? because if so i feel that Arona is a lot better than Lil Nog.



Really? I feel the ground games pretty much negate each other, and both have decent wrestling tactics(nog uses trips arona strngth) while Nog has much better stand up.
jiujitsufreak74
9/9/08 9:47:58PM

Posted by cmill21

Really? I feel the ground games pretty much negate each other, and both have decent wrestling tactics(nog uses trips arona strngth) while Nog has much better stand up.



i have seen Arona tool people with much better JJ levels than Lil Nog when watching him in the ADCC and in BJJ tournaments. i think Arona would be able to get a UD with superior ground control and i don't think this would be on the feet. it would be a ground war that i would love to watch and that i would give the edge to Arona.
DoTheMMAth
9/10/08 2:06:24AM
Here's the mathematical formula that I used to mentally compute the victor of this matchup:

Nog = Nog

Nog wins.
Pookie
9/10/08 7:09:40AM
Nogueria is just a superior fighter to the Janitor.

Plus its a rule of mine never to pick against a nog if they arent fighting a top p4p opponent. They both consistently win fights.
cowcatcher
9/10/08 8:22:37AM
pookie has it right, you just cant pick against a nog brother, you get burned 95% of the time when you do.
emfleek
9/10/08 9:12:50AM
When in doubt, follow the "Thiago Rule".

Oh, wait...
Rush
9/10/08 10:11:55AM

Posted by Pookie

Plus its a rule of mine never to pick against a nog if they arent fighting a top p4p opponent. They both consistently win fights.




Like in Alexandre Franca Nogueira vs. Jose Aldo



bls1919
9/11/08 7:44:43PM
Should be a good fight. i think the ground games with cancel eath other out, and it will come down to their stand up. Nog has the better striking. Nog wins TKO
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