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cmill21
7/12/09 11:27:33PM
Well look at it this way, if Bisping could back up his mouth he would still be chirping about how he was robbed of a decsion win.
CanadianCripplr
7/12/09 11:31:30PM

Posted by Rush

I cheered for the KO and I cheered louder for the follow-up shot. I don't think the fight could have ended a better way.



Quite honestly I hadnt jumped out of my recliner that quick in a while...my wife and daughter were in the barn and they phoned and asked what I was screaming about.
It was borderline but I was wanting Bisping to get hammered so bad from the months of trashtalk and insults to Dans brainpower that Im willing to forgive Hendo in time.
Ok I forgive your lack of judgement Dan, dont doit again.
bigbubbano23
7/13/09 12:22:50AM
i got ten dollars that bisping says he had swine flu
mkiv9secsupra
7/13/09 1:45:41AM
So its not ok to hit a guy after he is unconscious but it is encouraged to hit a guy who is unintelligibly defending himself from GnP?

Henderson hit Bisping before the ref stopped him.... If you are going to get mad at anyone get mad at the ref... even still it is an unbelievably weak arguement, much like this one.
Jackelope
7/13/09 1:59:46AM
I'm not a big fan of hitting guys who are defenseless. That being said, I give Dan a pass on this one. To me there is a difference between getting in that one last shot and continuously beating a dude down. I know that doesn't sound like it makes much sense, but it's the way I feel. I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me. Hear me out if you wish, though-

As a person who trains and competes in MMA you're aware that you're going to constantly put your health on the line against others. In a way, as much as you know that the other guy is in there to hurt you, you also have to be somewhat trusting of your opponent and the referees to protect your health. To me, this is just another example of why you should carry yourself as a respectful individual in the sport. It's why I despise people like Brock Lesnar who carry themselves as classless individuals. Anybody who is any kind of a rational person in this sport knows that it could be them lights on on the canvas at any minute. When the chips are down and you're left defenseless, do you want to be that guy who was begging to get his ass kicked with your piss poor attitude and trash talk leading into the fight? Or do you want to be that guy that gives everyone respect and carries himself with class? I'll let you imagine yourself lights out on the canvas with a guy standing fist-cocked over you for a minute before you decide.

Obviously it could have been Dan KO'd on the mat (not likely) and hopefully he knew that if their roles were reversed he may have suffered the same fate. When he chose to open his mouth and say his piece, he knew what he was getting himself into. It's not up to us to defend him or Bisping. It was their choices as individuals to say the things they did and suffer the consequences. Hopefully this is one of those- "lesson learned, Mike Bisping" deals.
Naturaldisaster
7/13/09 4:41:19AM
I didnt have a problem with what dan did at all, on the contrary i thought it was F***in awesome. The ref hadnt stopped it yet so it was completely legal. also bisping had been talkin alot of Sh*t so dan shut him up. Bisping was fine afterward so idk why its such a big deal. dan isnt the 1st to do that either, Rampage KTFO'd Wandy then gave him 4 or 5 hard ass shots on the chin and nobody made a big deal about that
moob
7/13/09 5:09:34AM
So basically what the general consensus is that as long as the Ref doesn't intervene, you can get as many unnecessary shots at your opponent regardless of what might happen as a result of said shots being landed on a defenceless fighter.

I have a problem with that.

What if (and yes, I know it is a big what if) the Ref had slipped (it's happened before) and been unable to stop Henderson/or any other fighter punching the life out of a KO'd opponent for a significant amount of time. At what point is it deemed unacceptable - or is the feeling that 'you continue until the ref pulls you off' still hold true and firm?

This is a sport, a sport attempting to seek legitimacy throughout the world and let's face it - New York is the ultimate goal for the UFC. Incidents like this don't do anything to make the sport look more legit in the eyes of those who believe it is still the same as it once was in UFC 1.

We constantly hear commentators and fans alike applaud the respect and concern for fighters post fight when someone gets hurt, yet the more blood-thirsty of us seem to feel that because someone trash-talked before a fight, that means it's perfectly acceptable to do as much damage as possible - even if they're clearly unconscious, then to gloat and laugh about it later. Weird.

I know I'm never going to change anyone's opinions on here, and further reasoning is lost on many, but we need to take a more objective look at scenarios like this and how those outside the sport may view it.
Kpro
7/13/09 5:15:37AM
It was one punch that was started before the opposing fighters arms fell back towards his waist. There's no way you can be 100% sure it's over. He'd have gotten 100 times the flak if he hadn't thrown it and Bisping had been able to continue.

Pointless thread and obviously in defense of TS's favorite fighter.

moob
7/13/09 5:18:36AM

Posted by Kpro

It was one punch that was started before the opposing fighters arms fell back towards his waist. There's no way you can be 100% sure it's over. He'd have gotten 100 times the flak if he hadn't thrown it and Bisping had been able to continue.

Pointless thread and obviously in defense of TS's favorite fighter.




As I mentioned a page or two back, the second punch was calculated and happened a full 2 seconds after the clear KO punch.

Bisping is not my favourite fighter, never was, never will be.

I would have started this thread had it been anyone else involved, period.
Kpro
7/13/09 5:44:42AM

Posted by moob

I would have started this thread had it been anyone else involved, period.



I disagree 100%.

I think you're an occasionally articulate person, albeit it standoffish, and try to be verbally manipulative in an elementary school way, but I think you choose to over-talk about anything Bisping related just because you know how much he is hated. In a similar way that most fans hate Kimbo because of the fans that support him, I think you always talk about Bisping because of the fans that dislike him. What other poster can claim multiple pages of results if you google their username and "bisping". None that I know of.

"chants of 'USA! USA!' ringing in his ears as he plies his trade. Now that's embarrassing." Moob, 12/14/07

"I know people who are good friends and train with him." Moob, 12/20/07

"Cue more disdain for Bisping on this thread." Moob, 1/4/08

"I really, really can't understand why people crap on a fighter simply because he won a controversial decision - it's not the first time this has happened in MMA" Moob, 2/2/08
This one kinda rings true with the one hit before the ref stops the fight.

"there is not a solid chunk of fans who don't like Bisping. I met him at UFC80, and the guy couldn't be any more 'fan-friendly' - he spent an age getting pictures taken, signing autographs, and talking to the fans" Moob, 2/2/08

"Many fighters 'dis' each other both pre and post fight - it's hardly ground-breaking." Moob, 2/2/08

"I don't have any specific regard or disregard for US fans, merely a significant number of them who perceive the events to be useful for a soapbox to display nationalism" Moob, 2/2/08

"Bisping is not my favourite fighter. I hold him in high regard however, as I know several people from his fight camp personally, therefore he gets my unconditional support." Moob, 2/2/08

"Even though I support Bisping unconditionally, there's a small part of me that wants him to get KTFO so all you sad haters can finally STFU." Moob, 5/9/08
Done

"I love the fact Bisping continues to shove it down the throats of those that despise him - you lot must be choking on your own vomit every time he wins - it's hilarious." Moob, 6/8/08

It's obvious I don't need to post anymore. You know people who train with him, you've met him and like him, you defend him in every post someone brings him up, you even said you wanted him to get KTFO to end the "haters", but it's you that keeps it alive. Ironic isn't it?
moob
7/13/09 6:05:28AM

Posted by Kpro


Posted by moob

I would have started this thread had it been anyone else involved, period.



I disagree 100%.

I think you're an occasionally articulate person, albeit it standoffish, and try to be verbally manipulative in an elementary school way, but I think you choose to over-talk about anything Bisping related just because you know how much he is hated. In a similar way that most fans hate Kimbo because of the fans that support him, I think you always talk about Bisping because of the fans that dislike him. What other poster can claim multiple pages of results if you google their username and "bisping". None that I know of.

"chants of 'USA! USA!' ringing in his ears as he plies his trade. Now that's embarrassing." Moob, 12/14/07

"I know people who are good friends and train with him." Moob, 12/20/07

"Cue more disdain for Bisping on this thread." Moob, 1/4/08

"I really, really can't understand why people crap on a fighter simply because he won a controversial decision - it's not the first time this has happened in MMA" Moob, 2/2/08
This one kinda rings true with the one hit before the ref stops the fight.

"there is not a solid chunk of fans who don't like Bisping. I met him at UFC80, and the guy couldn't be any more 'fan-friendly' - he spent an age getting pictures taken, signing autographs, and talking to the fans" Moob, 2/2/08

"Many fighters 'dis' each other both pre and post fight - it's hardly ground-breaking." Moob, 2/2/08

"I don't have any specific regard or disregard for US fans, merely a significant number of them who perceive the events to be useful for a soapbox to display nationalism" Moob, 2/2/08

"Bisping is not my favourite fighter. I hold him in high regard however, as I know several people from his fight camp personally, therefore he gets my unconditional support." Moob, 2/2/08

"Even though I support Bisping unconditionally, there's a small part of me that wants him to get KTFO so all you sad haters can finally STFU." Moob, 5/9/08
Done

"I love the fact Bisping continues to shove it down the throats of those that despise him - you lot must be choking on your own vomit every time he wins - it's hilarious." Moob, 6/8/08

It's obvious I don't need to post anymore. You know people who train with him, you've met him and like him, you defend him in every post someone brings him up, you even said you wanted him to get KTFO to end the "haters", but it's you that keeps it alive. Ironic isn't it?



I don't take your comment regards 'elementary school way' at all favourably. I'm well educated, yet don't feel the need to be overly articulate on an MMA forum - that doesn't sit well with a lot of people. I don't think there was any need to get personal.

You went to a lot of trouble to search and quote my previous comments - that worries me somewhat.

What is ironic - is the comment you posted where I state that Bisping is not my favourite fighter - contrary to your earlier post on this thread.

You are however correct in that I do defend him on a regular basis on here, for some of the reasons you've mentioned, but also because he gets a rough ride on here - something that isn't really supposed to happen, but hey-ho - if that makes me a bad person, so be it.

I did lose a fair amount of respect for Bisping after watching tough, he was rather annoying it must be said - even for myself.

I stand by my remark about criticising other fighters who have done a similar thing as Hendo did, whether you chose to believe it or otherwise.
Kpro
7/13/09 6:22:15AM
"Elementary school way" refers to anyone who uses debate techniques like inferring something and then when the other person counters you respond with "you said it, not me, so you have to prove your point". I've noticed you do that type of thing on here on multiple occasions before.

Regardless, I think you're over-defense of Bisping keeps "haters" on the mmaplayground boards. Which is exactly what you don't want on here. I'll take your word for it that it's not because of Bisping, but instead because of the stoppage that you made this thread, it's just hard for me to see it that way.

I don't like extra hits any more than the next guy, but in my personal opinion, barring any fighter attachments, I didn't think it was unjustified. And I do believe that Henderson made the post-fight comments to get a pop from the crowd.

It is what it is. We see it differently.
world_mma
7/13/09 6:33:14AM
..... and still most people are missing the point.

The follow-up punch...... fine
Keep going 'til the ref stops you..... fine
Say that what Bisping got was karma.....fine

Admit to knowing that the guy was unconscious when you punched him again..... not fine
Admit that against anyone else you would pull out of that second punch..... not fine
Deliberately intend to cause further damage, knowing him to be unconscious.... not fine

I just cannot understand anyone defending Dan's comments afterwards. I know it is because the Bisping-haters loved seeing it and would defend it blindly BUT this continued attitude can do our sport no end of harm. This one incident is not going to do that much harm as I do think that this has been blown out of proportion.

Dan was wrong to admit and gloat over the deliberate strike against an unconscious opponent and tarnish what was a comprehensive win and knockout. This said, at least his was in the heat of the moment. Some of the people defending this deliberate strike to an unconscious opponent have had time to consider their replies. Concerning.

If you see it any other way I am appalled at your lack of compassion, sportsmanship and respect for others. Then again, my faith in human nature does take a constant battering.

PS Please remember before you reply - Dan admitted he would have pulled out against anyone else; knowing Bisping was unconscious and the fight was won.

world_mma
7/13/09 6:37:34AM

Posted by Kpro

And I do believe that Henderson made the post-fight comments to get a pop from the crowd.






Only with this point, mind....
Still, stupid comments or actions, intended or not, still deserve reprimand.
Kpro
7/13/09 6:42:24AM
There's no way to know for a fact that someone is unconscious in that short amount of time, and Dan has stated that he was joking in the post-fight interview about throwing the punch to shut him up.

There's no end to this; some people feel one way, some people feel the other.

It's time to think about the next fight for both fighters and move on from over-analyzing a punch that was legal by the sanctioned rules of MMA in the country the event took place in.
Rush
7/13/09 7:32:32AM

Posted by moob

So basically what the general consensus is that as long as the Ref doesn't intervene, you can get as many unnecessary shots at your opponent regardless of what might happen as a result of said shots being landed on a defenceless fighter.

I have a problem with that.






Then really you have a problem with the rules of engagment in the octagon and the ref's ability to stop a fight at an instant, rather than Henderson?



Posted by moob

What if (and yes, I know it is a big what if) the Ref had slipped (it's happened before) and been unable to stop Henderson/or any other fighter punching the life out of a KO'd opponent for a significant amount of time. At what point is it deemed unacceptable - or is the feeling that 'you continue until the ref pulls you off' still hold true and firm?





Yes, this stuff happens. However, 1) it didn't in this particular case 2) I don't think it's nor should it be the fighter's responsibility to determine when a fight is over. That doesn't mean they can't, I just think they shouldn't have to. I can name a number of situations where a fight could be finished, a fighter hesitates because he thinks the other guy is done, only to lose in the end.



Posted by moob

This is a sport, a sport attempting to seek legitimacy throughout the world and let's face it - New York is the ultimate goal for the UFC. Incidents like this don't do anything to make the sport look more legit in the eyes of those who believe it is still the same as it once was in UFC 1.



Yes, I agree about the fragility of the sport in terms of its image. However, what transpired in this fight was within the rules. Henderson did nothing wrong in terms of the rules. If I was to make a comparable situation, telling Hederson he can't follow up with an insurance shot is like telling Shane Carwin not to hit a guy at full power. One could also look at the situation the other way too. What if the ref did stop it sooner and Bisping started chirping like Koscheck after the Paulo Thiago fight? Then we would all be bitching about whether it was a premature stoppage, etc.


I know I probably said some stuff that was said before (or not) on this thread. If I did I apologize, but I didn't have time to read it all yet.
tmas
7/13/09 1:08:45PM
im gonna end this RIDICULAS disscussion right now! facts.

1.) You fight to win
2.) You fight until the ref tells you to stop.
put those together and if you dont fight till ref steps in, you get Nog V herring.......
3.) Hendo knocked Bisping to the ground, in the heat of the moment #1 its hard to determine that fast if someone is KOed, (even the ref didnt realize it in that split 2nd) and since you fight until ref stops you, then you MUST FINISH THE FIGHT.
4.) with that logic Hendo not only did NOTHING WRONG, but DID WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSE TO!!!!
5.) The comments were meant to be a joke ok distasteful yes possibly but Hendo just gained a fan for life just for shutting that Bisping up!!!!! w000h00)!!! for real though i felt terrible when i saw the replay i actually sat down at the table and prayed for Bisping's health im not gonna lie first thing that came to my mind was that he would never fight agian/die/have some perm brain damage it was a vicisous KO and flying elbow.

Hendo did nothing wrong, he did exactly what any fighter should have done, i know if im in that situation when i fight im sure as hecks not letting my opponet clear his head and the fight not be stopped......unless im 100% certain the guy is actually hurt and i could kill em.
thefyn
7/13/09 2:36:33PM
It was absolutely shocking and a cheap shot.

Most importantly, it was very VERY funny.

world_mma
7/13/09 3:45:08PM

....unless im 100% certain the guy is actually hurt


That's the crux of this argument....

Did Hendo know he was unconscious?

Unfortunately his comments afterwards say yes.
His general demeanour and former professionalism say no.

With his comments, I don't believe he meant what he said; I think he was trying to be funny. It backfired. It just shows that some fighters aren't cut out to be personalities as well.

A good discussion to have rather than ridiculous (or however you spelt it).

PS Thanks ever so much for finishing this discussion for us all.....
Naturaldisaster
7/13/09 3:47:59PM

Posted by world_mma


Posted by Kpro

And I do believe that Henderson made the post-fight comments to get a pop from the crowd.






Only with this point, mind....
Still, stupid comments or actions, intended or not, still deserve reprimand.



Why is it that is pretty much only the UK people that are gettin mad about this?
DosBox
7/13/09 3:54:12PM
I am surprised a lot of people have been making quite a big deal out of this. These things happen all of the time. Also, watching it in real time did not look bad at all. The slow-motion looked far more worse than what Henderson really did.

Belcher/Santiago
Henderson/Wanderlei
Yvel/Rizzo
Gonzaga/Cro Cop
Rampage/Wanderlei (The ref even tried to stop Rampage as well)
Damacio Page/ Marcos Galvao
Cro Cop/ Igor
Yves/Josh Thomson
Evans/Salmon

... and the list goes on and on... and on... and on.... AND ON

Just in case, to avoid that .001% chance the fighter could recover from a killer blow, you go until the referee stops the bout.

If Hendo pulled out such a "dick move" what are the reasons why the other fighters have done the same thing?

Henderson "shut him up", but followed the rules while doing so, Im still surprised why a lot of people are up in arms over this, especially when this happens all of the time.

Watch it in real time and it looks far less worse than it does in slow-motion.
UFCmma666
7/13/09 3:56:57PM

Posted by DosBox

I am surprised a lot of people have been making quite a big deal out of this. These things happen all of the time. Also, watching it in real time did not look bad at all. The slow-motion looked far more worse than what Henderson really did.

Belcher/Santiago
Henderson/Wanderlei
Yvel/Rizzo
Gonzaga/Cro Cop
Rampage/Wanderlei (The ref even tried to stop Rampage as well)
Damacio Page/ Marcos Galvao
Cro Cop/ Igor
Yves/Josh Thomson
Evans/Salmon

... and the list goes on and on... and on... and on.... AND ON

Just in case, to avoid that .001% chance the fighter could recover from a killer blow, you go until the referee stops the bout.

If Hendo pulled out such a "dick move" what are the reasons why the other fighters have done the same thing?

Henderson "shut him up", but followed the rules while doing so, Im still surprised why a lot of people are up in arms over this, especially when this happens all of the time.

Watch it in real time and it looks far less worse than it does in slow-motion.



exactly what i was thinking and about to post
world_mma
7/13/09 4:12:11PM

Posted by Naturaldisaster


Posted by world_mma


Posted by Kpro

And I do believe that Henderson made the post-fight comments to get a pop from the crowd.






Only with this point, mind....
Still, stupid comments or actions, intended or not, still deserve reprimand.



Why is it that is pretty much only the UK people that are gettin mad about this?



I'm very calm about the whole thing! There are a few non-Brits speaking up as well. Its not, and don't try and make it, a nationality thing. Of course some of us Brits have a special interest in Bisping, but give us some credit - we are not making Dan saying "it was deliberate" up. If it was a fighter you followed (from your country or another) you would be the same. I do believe if it was the other way round I would be saying the same about Bisping - that he was wrong.

That's all. We are not pushing for a lifetime ban, a fine or anything of the sort. We are just looking for some admittance that hitting an unconscious opponent when you know he is unconscious is not really on (Dan said it).

Following the Hamill fight Bisping got seriously flamed for his ill-advised comment. Now Dan makes some (imho) worse comments and gets people (blindly) supporting him.

Double standards anyone?
world_mma
7/13/09 4:18:18PM

Posted by DosBox

I am surprised a lot of people have been making quite a big deal out of this. These things happen all of the time. Also, watching it in real time did not look bad at all. The slow-motion looked far more worse than what Henderson really did.

Belcher/Santiago
Henderson/Wanderlei
Yvel/Rizzo
Gonzaga/Cro Cop
Rampage/Wanderlei (The ref even tried to stop Rampage as well)
Damacio Page/ Marcos Galvao
Cro Cop/ Igor
Yves/Josh Thomson
Evans/Salmon

... and the list goes on and on... and on... and on.... AND ON

Just in case, to avoid that .001% chance the fighter could recover from a killer blow, you go until the referee stops the bout.

If Hendo pulled out such a "dick move" what are the reasons why the other fighters have done the same thing?

Henderson "shut him up", but followed the rules while doing so, Im still surprised why a lot of people are up in arms over this, especially when this happens all of the time.

Watch it in real time and it looks far less worse than it does in slow-motion.



F*ck me. All this argument is putting across is what everyone (maybe apart from moob) believes.

It was his comment about it being deliberate and calculated, knowing Bisping was gone. Thats the bad bit. Watch it at any speed, who cares.

It's his admission afterwards that stinks and cannot, and should not, be condoned by any sane fan.

Not one of those fighters mentioned said in the interview afterwards that they knew he was out and that it was a deliberate cheap shot........
UFCmma666
7/13/09 4:41:27PM

Posted by world_mma


Posted by DosBox

I am surprised a lot of people have been making quite a big deal out of this. These things happen all of the time. Also, watching it in real time did not look bad at all. The slow-motion looked far more worse than what Henderson really did.

Belcher/Santiago
Henderson/Wanderlei
Yvel/Rizzo
Gonzaga/Cro Cop
Rampage/Wanderlei (The ref even tried to stop Rampage as well)
Damacio Page/ Marcos Galvao
Cro Cop/ Igor
Yves/Josh Thomson
Evans/Salmon

... and the list goes on and on... and on... and on.... AND ON

Just in case, to avoid that .001% chance the fighter could recover from a killer blow, you go until the referee stops the bout.

If Hendo pulled out such a "dick move" what are the reasons why the other fighters have done the same thing?

Henderson "shut him up", but followed the rules while doing so, Im still surprised why a lot of people are up in arms over this, especially when this happens all of the time.

Watch it in real time and it looks far less worse than it does in slow-motion.



F*ck me. All this argument is putting across is what everyone (maybe apart from moob) believes.

It was his comment about it being deliberate and calculated, knowing Bisping was gone. Thats the bad bit. Watch it at any speed, who cares.

It's his admission afterwards that stinks and cannot, and should not, be condoned by any sane fan.

Not one of those fighters mentioned said in the interview afterwards that they knew he was out and that it was a deliberate cheap shot........



well what about fights were the fighter continuously hits the opponent even after the ref trys to stop the bout like rampage vs silva or is that excused because rampage trains with bisping and the wolfs lair
DosBox
7/13/09 4:58:36PM

Posted by world_mma

It's his admission afterwards that stinks and cannot, and should not, be condoned by any sane fan.

Not one of those fighters mentioned said in the interview afterwards that they knew he was out and that it was a deliberate cheap shot........



For the first part, I agree. He should have said I was just going until the ref stopped the fight... even if he would have been lying, it is far safer to say that.

Second... I dont if Joe Rogan or any interviewer on the spot immediately after asked the same types of questions to my aforementioned examples, especially after emotional fighters. HOWEVER, Yves Lavigne even while restraining Rampage in the Wanderlei (after Silva got KO'd) fight still managed to "rape choke" and add in 2-3 extra punches. This is FAR worse than Henderson managed on Bisping.



Maybe a lesson is to not talk trash, and let the fight sell itself (and I hope you dont think im just directing this at Bisping). An emotional fight can sometimes be bad, but it will be hard not to talk trash because this is an emotional sport.

To say Henderson was bad because he was saying he deliberately added a shot in should be no different than Rashad Evans unloading on an unconscious body of Sean Salmon and saying he was just going until the referee. Gonzaga head kicking Cro Cop.. he didnt think Cro Cop was out? Im pretty sure Evans knew Salmon was gone, im pretty sure Cro Cop knew Igor was gone, etc etc etc etc etc............... These ACTIONS should be louder than the WORDS.






Now... at the press conference (which isnt immediately after the fight when Rogan was talking to him and Henderson actually had time to think about it)


Henderson had this to say about the fight

"When youre in the heat of the moment... the ref hadnt stopped me yet, who knows whats gonna happen if hes gonna recover, if there gonna stop the fight.
Ya know... and I really only hit him twice, once on my feet and once on the ground, I didnt keep going, I didnt go after the ref tried to stop me, nothing like that. It was just a reaction of mine to keep going till I was stopped... it did feel good though".




Looks like we will agree to disagree in this case.







world_mma
7/13/09 5:13:52PM
I don't think we have to agree to disagree. In the main, you are right.

Rampage was wrong. Henderson was wrong. Levels of 'wrongness' - debatable.

Henderson has altered his initial statement, showing a small admission of a mistake made. Job done.

Just unfortunate that most of the casual fans will only have seen the immediate post-fight interview. It does nothing for the image of MMA imo.

PS Didn't Rampage get fined/reprimanded for his?
D0wnUnd6e6r
7/13/09 5:32:16PM
IMO if bisping himself didint find anything wrong with it i don't think anyone else should. But again, only my opinion
DosBox
7/13/09 5:36:44PM

Posted by world_mma


Just unfortunate that most of the casual fans will only have seen the immediate post-fight interview. It does nothing for the image of MMA imo.



I also think Hendo's laid back personality has a lot to do with him either getting a pass in this episode or people not making such a big deal about it. So calm even when he somewhat admitted to the fact of the "extra punch" which I still dont necessarily mind tbh, this was a more emotional/ bad blood fight. This happens not only in MMA, but MLB, NFL, etc.....

**Or perhaps the reason most people might not make it such a big deal because it was grossly overshadowed by the post fight antics of Brock Lesnar. Maybe when people see what happened there we tend to think what Henderson did was merely childs play.

Well, it could also be because there are a lot of Bisping haters... he certainly is a character and has a somewhat "heel" personality.


In saying all that, there were a lot of instances/variables that occurred at UFC 100 where Hendersons actions are basically drowned out.


---I cant find anything about Rampage being fined after the Wanderlei fight.
mkiv9secsupra
7/13/09 5:39:57PM
IF you had a problem with it then you should petition the state athletic commissions and tell them to change their rules to say "Fighters are not allowed to punch unconscious fighters"...... we'll see how well that goes


I dont care why he did it, no matter what it was well within the rules...THE END
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