Dana White Slams Door on Tim Sylvia’s UFC Comeback Hopes

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BlueSkiesBurn
3/6/12 7:00:19PM
Mar 6, 2012 - Former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia has spent much of the last few weeks publicly pleading for one more run in the UFC. Earlier this week, he appeared on The MMA Hour and even said he'd be willing to fight for free in order to prove himself again.

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So that just happened.
Poor_Franklin
3/6/12 7:19:37PM
that door slammed hard
bjj1605
3/6/12 8:42:01PM
huh.

I'm not exactly a Big Tim fan but this seems odd.

There are definitely fighters in the UFC HW division right now with less skill and draw than Timmy.
tcunningham
3/6/12 8:52:42PM
i think dana has too much beef with tim. theres really no other reason, i had forgotten that he has actually been doing pretty decent in his last few fights. i personally dont really care.
Aether
3/6/12 9:05:59PM
he would've had a much better chance of getting back into the UFC if he did something like try to win a belt in a smaller organization or something like that. I don't see how he expected just straight up begging to work out for him.
Samps
3/6/12 9:28:40PM
I don't like how Sylvia is getting desperate.
-Fight for less
-Fan in corner
-Fight for free
Come on....
I say put him in SF, oh wait, HW will be gone soon.... Well maybe he can get a fight in before Cormier and Barnett go at it. He wins, he gets 1 shot in the UFC, he loses and he's not going anywhere in the UFC. Look at how many chances they gave Joe "Daddy" or Hardy
Dana is kinda being a duece tho
ghandikush
3/6/12 9:55:47PM
its silly. sylvia would be a large draw imo for the pay. he is the most dominant hw champ by paper. That means something for marketing. Even though I dislike this guy to the max he would be interesting to add to the roster.
grappler0000
3/6/12 10:05:02PM

Posted by ghandikush

its silly. sylvia would be a large draw imo for the pay. he is the most dominant hw champ by paper. That means something for marketing. Even though I dislike this guy to the max he would be interesting to add to the roster.



I think losing in under 10 seconds to an over the hill boxer takes away any marketability he had, which wasn't much really. I still wouldn't mind seeing him get another shot, but I have a feeling that is a big part of the stigma attached to him. Of coarse, leaving under the conditions he did and ballooning up in weight probably didn't help the cause either.


On a side note, I noticed an ad below the article with a shirt I have'n't seen before. Kinda funny.

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bjj1605
3/6/12 10:49:57PM

Posted by grappler0000


Posted by ghandikush

its silly. sylvia would be a large draw imo for the pay. he is the most dominant hw champ by paper. That means something for marketing. Even though I dislike this guy to the max he would be interesting to add to the roster.



I think losing in under 10 seconds to an over the hill boxer takes away any marketability he had, which wasn't much really. I still wouldn't mind seeing him get another shot, but I have a feeling that is a big part of the stigma attached to him. Of coarse, leaving under the conditions he did and ballooning up in weight probably didn't help the cause either.


On a side note, I noticed an ad below the article with a shirt I have'n't seen before. Kinda funny.




I think he could be a good draw actually, if the UFC got their hype machine going.

He's huge, which is important at HW.

He's a former champ with lots of title defenses.

He likes to stand and bang.

For your casual fan, that's all you need to get them to buy.

I went out to a bar for Tito vs Rashad and my waiter was telling me that Tito was going to kick Rashad's ass. You see, Tito is a former champ. He went toe-to-toe with Chuck Liddell and beat Ken Shamrock THREE TIMES!!! No way Rashad can beat him (never mind that Rashad had been a champ more recently and had knocked the same Chuck out cold.)
hate4thestate
3/6/12 10:50:42PM

Posted by ghandikush

its silly. sylvia would be a large draw imo for the pay. he is the most dominant hw champ by paper. That means something for marketing. Even though I dislike this guy to the max he would be interesting to add to the roster.



Did you mean UFC HW champ? Because that is one of the most incorrect statements I have ever seen if not.
Sir_Karl
3/6/12 11:22:22PM
Dana's failure to resign Sylvia is completely unjustified. Anyone else would have already been resigned at this point. Tim might want to start begging Bellator right about now.
Sir_Karl
3/6/12 11:26:50PM

Posted by grappler0000


Posted by ghandikush

its silly. sylvia would be a large draw imo for the pay. he is the most dominant hw champ by paper. That means something for marketing. Even though I dislike this guy to the max he would be interesting to add to the roster.



I think losing in under 10 seconds to an over the hill boxer takes away any marketability he had, which wasn't much really. I still wouldn't mind seeing him get another shot, but I have a feeling that is a big part of the stigma attached to him. Of coarse, leaving under the conditions he did and ballooning up in weight probably didn't help the cause either.


On a side note, I noticed an ad below the article with a shirt I have'n't seen before. Kinda funny.





If the "over the hill" Ray Mercer catches anyone with a good shot they are going down. Boxers have far superior punching skills and significantly more power than 99% of MMA guys. Sylvia's marketability should not be affected at all by that loss.
grappler0000
3/6/12 11:27:35PM

Posted by bjj1605


Posted by grappler0000


Posted by ghandikush

its silly. sylvia would be a large draw imo for the pay. he is the most dominant hw champ by paper. That means something for marketing. Even though I dislike this guy to the max he would be interesting to add to the roster.



I think losing in under 10 seconds to an over the hill boxer takes away any marketability he had, which wasn't much really. I still wouldn't mind seeing him get another shot, but I have a feeling that is a big part of the stigma attached to him. Of coarse, leaving under the conditions he did and ballooning up in weight probably didn't help the cause either.


On a side note, I noticed an ad below the article with a shirt I have'n't seen before. Kinda funny.




I think he could be a good draw actually, if the UFC got their hype machine going.

He's huge, which is important at HW.

He's a former champ with lots of title defenses.

He likes to stand and bang.

For your casual fan, that's all you need to get them to buy.

I went out to a bar for Tito vs Rashad and my waiter was telling me that Tito was going to kick Rashad's ass. You see, Tito is a former champ. He went toe-to-toe with Chuck Liddell and beat Ken Shamrock THREE TIMES!!! No way Rashad can beat him (never mind that Rashad had been a champ more recently and had knocked the same Chuck out cold.)



They couldn't sell Tim Sylvia when he was top 2 in the division, so I don't have any reason to believe it would be any different when he's in the bottom half of the division now. He hasn't been exciting since he stopped juicing. Not to mention, now there are a ton of current, exciting HW's that make him look even more boring in retrospect. I'm not saying I don't want to see him get the shot, but even as champ, he was a dud with sales.
grappler0000
3/6/12 11:30:10PM

Posted by Sir_Karl


Posted by grappler0000


Posted by ghandikush

its silly. sylvia would be a large draw imo for the pay. he is the most dominant hw champ by paper. That means something for marketing. Even though I dislike this guy to the max he would be interesting to add to the roster.



I think losing in under 10 seconds to an over the hill boxer takes away any marketability he had, which wasn't much really. I still wouldn't mind seeing him get another shot, but I have a feeling that is a big part of the stigma attached to him. Of coarse, leaving under the conditions he did and ballooning up in weight probably didn't help the cause either.


On a side note, I noticed an ad below the article with a shirt I have'n't seen before. Kinda funny.






If the "over the hill" Ray Mercer catches anyone with a good shot they are going down. Boxers have far superior punching skills and significantly more power than 99% of MMA guys. Sylvia's marketability should not be affected at all by that loss.



I'm not debating Mercer's punching power. It's just a matter of public perception. He's tainted as a result of that loss.
grappler0000
3/6/12 11:37:53PM

Posted by ghandikush

its silly. sylvia would be a large draw imo for the pay. he is the most dominant hw champ by paper. That means something for marketing. Even though I dislike this guy to the max he would be interesting to add to the roster.



He's actually tied on paper with Randy, but even that is a luxury of Nevada not implementing a PED policy early enough. Randy shouldn't have lost to Barny and Tim should not have a win over McGee.
RhythmAndStyle
3/7/12 1:04:14AM
im sorry but i LMFAO when i read the title of this..told u Timmay, no one is really takin u serious..i never been a fan of urs, but im always a sucker for comeback stories..start takin urself serious, get back into a healthy shape, get some SOLID wins against SOLID opponents..prove u want it, dont just f*ckin talk bout it!..ps i think Dana once said the only way u would make it back was thru TUF..that would be interestin, tbh...but first go get on the Dolce Diet and wins some solid opponents..
Budgellism
3/7/12 1:25:03AM
He doesn't belong in the ufc. He's never been a skilled fighter, even when he was the champ. I personally don't see why anyone who has seen him fight would want him back in the ufc. Even when he was winning he was putting on some of the worst fights in ufc history. He's also been knocked out by Ray Mercer and Abe Wagner. The Wagner loss was last year for god sakes... He's 36 so even if he did have the skills to be in the ufc, he's nearing the end of his career.

I haven't even mentioned how out of shape he usually is and how he left a perfectly good contract with the ufc to head to an organization that lasted 2 events... One of which he headlined and was absolutely destroyed by the ufc's biggest enemy back then. He'd be a waste of a contract.
snakeplissken
3/7/12 8:43:37AM
To me this screams of Timmeh wanting to get back into the UFC not for a run, but to make himself as a 'name' once more so he can charge the independants more money. I suspect his name value is more than on the wane now and he probably cant get a decent fee, so by getting even on one PPV, his name is back in lights for a few minutes so the independants can stamp Former UFC Champ and the casual fan will know who he is.

I for one dont want to see him back in the UFC. Maybe his trousers keep falling down where he hasnt got a title belt to walk around all day with anymore?
emfleek
3/7/12 8:49:35AM
Marketable? Ha.

Dave Menne's a former champ, too, and has won 4 of his last 5. Sign him, Dana! Market him as a former champ!

Oh, and when he gets smashed in under 30 seconds by mid-tier competition, good luck explaining to your fans how he ever was a champion in the first place.
Bubbles
3/7/12 12:58:03PM
if they can bring back Tim Hauge, then there is no reason to not give him an undercard fight at the very least

better yet, how many times did Elvis Sinosic get invited back?
emfleek
3/7/12 1:01:14PM

Posted by Bubbles

if they can bring back Tim Hauge, then there is no reason to not give him an undercard fight at the very least

better yet, how many times did Elvis Sinosic get invited back?



Sinosic didn't jump ship to an upstart competitor essentially saying "F you" to the UFC, either.
Bubbles
3/7/12 2:09:17PM

Posted by emfleek


Posted by Bubbles

if they can bring back Tim Hauge, then there is no reason to not give him an undercard fight at the very least

better yet, how many times did Elvis Sinosic get invited back?



Sinosic didn't jump ship to an upstart competitor essentially saying "F you" to the UFC, either.



true, but at the same time Tim went over to fight the best in the world. Dana wasnt going to bring Fedor in and he was getting a bigger paycheque. I can't really fault Sylvia for doing what he did, but what's the worst that can happen giving him $5,000 to fight on facebook?
Franklinfan47
3/7/12 7:22:34PM
I want Tim back in the UFC like I want crabs back on my genitals
KungFuMaster
3/8/12 2:57:22AM
Good job, Dana.
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