Dana White Blasts Fedor's Team, Russians

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thejuice
7/19/07 11:07:30PM
In a recent interview Dana White stated that the reason the Fedor deal has not been finished is because he was "dealing with crazy Russians." Needless to say Fedor's boxing coach and trainer was none too pleased, going as far as to say the "U.S. and Russia will never see eye to eye, and I don't care what he says."

Real smart, the guy is trying to get the best fighter on Planet Earth, and he not only disrespects Fedor's team and handlers, but also his entire country. Keep the hits coming Dana.

Link on Sherdog front page Interview #1
SpiderSilva
7/19/07 11:10:29PM
you know maybe Dana thinks he doesnt need him
thejuice
7/19/07 11:11:59PM
Well IMO if that's the case Dana shouldn't think.
mrmagic32
7/19/07 11:14:46PM
Fedor is a top dog and wants to be paid like one. I feel the UFC is overpaying talent and stepping on the guys that have been with them for years. Coming into the UFC and having a title fight right out of the gate is just stupid. We overpaid for Cro Cop and he thoroughly disappointed. Who is the next "talent" that gets his a$$ kicked?
ocho-cinco
7/19/07 11:16:23PM
well this isn't what I wanted to hear.... Come on Dana you gotta do whatever it takes!
thejuice
7/19/07 11:16:47PM

Posted by mrmagic32

Fedor is a top dog and wants to be paid like one. I feel the UFC is overpaying talent and stepping on the guys that have been with them for years. Coming into the UFC and having a title fight right out of the gate is just stupid. We overpaid for Cro Cop and he thoroughly disappointed. Who is the next "talent" that gets his a$$ kicked?



I noticed you stated "we"...are you a member of the UFC organization?? The next "talent" to come in and get his ass kicked?? Yeah, Fedor, Shogun, Hunt, Barnett, Gomi, Melendez, Sakurai, those bums would get smoked in the UFC.

Anyways, your post had nothing to do with the thread.
SpiderSilva
7/19/07 11:23:48PM
You know IMO i think Hunt would do vary well in the UFC if he uses his weight in the gound
thejuice
7/19/07 11:30:30PM

Posted by SpiderSilva

You know IMO i think Hunt would do vary well in the UFC if he uses his weight in the gound



I agree, he has problems with subs, we know that. Still, he reversed Fedor a lot of times and has shown an incredible natural ability for mma. Standing up and striking nobody in UFC could deal with him or win. Period. There are reports and pics of him training and he's down to 270 already.
TOMMYAYO05
7/19/07 11:57:16PM
Dude if there going to be like that who cares?Yeah it would be cool to have Fedor but i mean come on if this is turning into the u.s vs russia,then fedor can screw off.Were the most dominate country in the world!!!Ufc has enough heavyweight talent
Northrend
7/20/07 12:01:01AM

Posted by TOMMYAYO05

Dude if there going to be like that who cares?Yeah it would be cool to have Fedor but i mean come on if this is turning into the u.s vs russia,then fedor can screw off.Were the most dominate country in the world!!!Ufc has enough heavyweight talent



This has nothing to do with the US or Russia. Why did Dana have to say that? Fedor can screw off lol...you do realize he is the best p4p fighter in the world. Dana obviously wants him so he can have the best fighter in his org.
SpiderSilva
7/20/07 12:02:27AM

The UFC is becomming super loaded with talent plus they are pulling some good new talent out of the wood works
TOMMYAYO05
7/20/07 12:03:02AM

This has nothing to do with the US or Russia. Why did Dana have to say that? Fedor can screw off lol...you do realize he is the best p4p fighter in the world. Dana obviously wants him so he can have the best fighter in his org.
yeah i know but if thats the way its going to be.I might have gone too far...haha
MisFiT
7/20/07 12:04:10AM
It will work out in the end i'm sure.
blowe1983
7/20/07 12:09:53AM
who knows i love that division as is anyway. if fedor's smart he will come over because thast where all the top competition is at
thejuice
7/20/07 12:13:36AM
Am I reading this correctly?? We're talking about Fedor, the greatest mma fighter OF ALL TIME. Not only do you sign him no matter what he wants, you don't disrespect his ethnic background and his team!! The UFC HW division doesn't need him?? Hmm let's see...

Randy - Please, Chuck knocked him out, TWICE. Fedor would maul him and end his career.

GG - Gonzaga?? The guy that caught a sleeping CC and got knocked out by Werdum?? He's not even top 5.

Nog - Hmm, I thought they fought before.

CC - See above

AA - Please. Arlovski would be lucky to survive one round, unfortunately even with luck he still wouldn't.

Sylvia - hahahaha

Vera - An annihalation.

So that's the HW division that doesn't need Fedor?? Not only do they need Fedor, they need his brother, Barnett, Hunt, Kharitonov, etc.
thejuice
7/20/07 12:14:57AM

Posted by SpiderSilva


The UFC is becomming super loaded with talent plus they are pulling some good new talent out of the wood works



You mean PRIDE?? That's where all of these guys are coming from, and none of them came close to knocking off Fedor when he dominated over there for years. UFC loyalists make me laugh.
TOMMYAYO05
7/20/07 12:20:14AM

You mean PRIDE?? That's where all of these guys are coming from, and none of them came close to knocking off Fedor when he dominated over there for years. UFC loyalists make me laugh.
I like pride too but hey who is still going?not pride!
thejuice
7/20/07 12:24:34AM

Posted by TOMMYAYO05


You mean PRIDE?? That's where all of these guys are coming from, and none of them came close to knocking off Fedor when he dominated over there for years. UFC loyalists make me laugh.
I like pride too but hey who is still going?not pride!



But hey, that had everything to do with the talent nothing to do with the people in charge of business right?? Use your head before you post. Obviously you do not like PRIDE, so don't lie or put up a front. Dana White markets fighters like Forrest and Jardine to no end where as PRIDE would have an event featuring 14 fighters that would headline any UFC with barely any hype. Maybe that, and Japanese mafia ties and losing the TV deal with Fuji Tv in Japan because of it has something to do with them not being around, not the talent. lol.
TOMMYAYO05
7/20/07 12:26:42AM

But hey, that had everything to do with the talent nothing to do with the people in charge of business right?? Use your head before you post. Obviously you do not like PRIDE, so don't lie or put up a front. Dana White markets fighters like Forrest and Jardine to no end where as PRIDE would have an event featuring 14 fighters that would headline any UFC with barely any hype. Maybe that, and Japanese mafia ties and losing the TV deal with Fuji Tv in Japan because of it has something to do with them not being around, not the talent. lol.
Like i said before smart guy i like pride more than ufc more talent, better cards,and better rules,but ufc out did them.
NE-1
7/20/07 12:31:46AM
No on really knows the inner workings of the deal so to side with anyone on this is pretty rediculous. Maybe Dana is being a stingy bitch and maybe Fedor is being a pompus douche either way it sucks. I hope both parties remove their head's from their asses before its too late.
Piccosaur
7/20/07 12:35:04AM
You guys really need to stop acting like Dana White is an idiot. You have not the slightest clue about the actual contract signing and all of that. Fedor and his team may want some insane contract that anyone would refuse to give. Who cares if he disrespected Russia? Dana White wants Fedor in the UFC no questions asked, he'll do whatever it takes to get him signed that's why Dana always states how close Fedor is to getting signed. Maybe Fedor's camp is being the stubborn ones?
Piccosaur
7/20/07 12:36:13AM

Posted by NE-1

No on really knows the inner workings of the deal so to side with anyone on this is pretty rediculous. Maybe Dana is being a stingy bitch and maybe Fedor is being a pompus douche either way it sucks. I hope both parties remove their head's from their asses before its too late.



I just read your post immediatly after I made mine. I agree 100%.
elysianwing
7/20/07 12:44:17AM

Posted by Piccosaur

You guys really need to stop acting like Dana White is an idiot. You have not the slightest clue about the actual contract signing and all of that. Fedor and his team may want some insane contract that anyone would refuse to give. Who cares if he disrespected Russia? Dana White wants Fedor in the UFC no questions asked, he'll do whatever it takes to get him signed that's why Dana always states how close Fedor is to getting signed. Maybe Fedor's camp is being the stubborn ones?




Dana White IS an idiot(about half the time, the other half he is borderline genius)

The guy consistantly fluctuates between making brilliant business decisions...to incredibly stupid business decisions.


example : putting a ppv on live "free" tv = brilliant.

example two: saying he can't get a contract signed with fedor because he is dealing with "crazy russians" = idiotic.


Regardless of what circumstances there may be behind the scenes, if Dana WANTS Fedor it is idiocy to insult him/his team/his country. That is like asking Fedor to rape him contractually.
Piccosaur
7/20/07 12:46:40AM

Posted by elysianwing
Dana White IS an idiot(about half the time, the other half he is borderline genius)

The guy consistantly fluctuates between making brilliant business decisions...to incredibly stupid business decisions.


example : putting a ppv on live "free" tv = brilliant.

example two: saying he can't get a contract signed with fedor because he is dealing with "crazy russians" = idiotic.


Regardless of what circumstances there may be behind the scenes, if Dana WANTS Fedor it is idiocy to insult him/his team/his country. That is like asking Fedor to rape him contractually.



Dude..... what if Fedor's camp ARE a bunch of crazy Russians? It is not a good idea to talk about Fedor like that but it certainly doesn't make him an idiot. Dana has gotten most of the fighters he's wanted in the past year, except Fedor. I'm starting to believe this if more of Fedor's fault.
thejuice
7/20/07 12:49:05AM

Posted by Piccosaur

You guys really need to stop acting like Dana White is an idiot. You have not the slightest clue about the actual contract signing and all of that. Fedor and his team may want some insane contract that anyone would refuse to give. Who cares if he disrespected Russia? Dana White wants Fedor in the UFC no questions asked, he'll do whatever it takes to get him signed that's why Dana always states how close Fedor is to getting signed. Maybe Fedor's camp is being the stubborn ones?



What?? Who cares if he disrespected Russia?? Hmm, maybe Fedor?!!! If you're the President of a company you don't disrespect anybody, not even people like Tito, it makes you look ignorant. To say something retarded like "crazy russians" is inexcusable, it's bad business, and bad politics. Fedor's camp is being the stubborn ones?? What does that have to do with disrespecting a man's background?? "Who cares" lol I've never seen fight fans, whether mma or boxing, be die hard fans of a promoter. It doesn't make any sense.
thejuice
7/20/07 12:50:30AM

Posted by Piccosaur


Posted by elysianwing
Dana White IS an idiot(about half the time, the other half he is borderline genius)

The guy consistantly fluctuates between making brilliant business decisions...to incredibly stupid business decisions.


example : putting a ppv on live "free" tv = brilliant.

example two: saying he can't get a contract signed with fedor because he is dealing with "crazy russians" = idiotic.


Regardless of what circumstances there may be behind the scenes, if Dana WANTS Fedor it is idiocy to insult him/his team/his country. That is like asking Fedor to rape him contractually.



Dude..... what if Fedor's camp ARE a bunch of crazy Russians? It is not a good idea to talk about Fedor like that but it certainly doesn't make him an idiot. Dana has gotten most of the fighters he's wanted in the past year, except Fedor. I'm starting to believe this if more of Fedor's fault.



Yeah, it doesn't make him look like an idiot, it makes him look intelligent. What about Gomi?? Wanderlei?? Barnett?? Hunt?? I'm starting to believe there's no getting through to you you're a diehard Dana White supporter
thejuice
7/20/07 12:52:23AM

Posted by TOMMYAYO05


But hey, that had everything to do with the talent nothing to do with the people in charge of business right?? Use your head before you post. Obviously you do not like PRIDE, so don't lie or put up a front. Dana White markets fighters like Forrest and Jardine to no end where as PRIDE would have an event featuring 14 fighters that would headline any UFC with barely any hype. Maybe that, and Japanese mafia ties and losing the TV deal with Fuji Tv in Japan because of it has something to do with them not being around, not the talent. lol.
Like i said before smart guy i like pride more than ufc more talent, better cards,and better rules,but ufc out did them.



If you just admitted PRIDE has better talent, better cards and better rules, how did UFC out do them?? When PRIDE was with Fuji TV (which is like HBO in Japan) they outdid the UFC in every way. Last time I checked SpikeTV isn't premium cable. UFC outdid them by not aligning with mobsters and trying to fix some of their early fights?? True, but that's all.
elysianwing
7/20/07 12:53:30AM

Posted by Piccosaur


Posted by elysianwing
Dana White IS an idiot(about half the time, the other half he is borderline genius)

The guy consistantly fluctuates between making brilliant business decisions...to incredibly stupid business decisions.


example : putting a ppv on live "free" tv = brilliant.

example two: saying he can't get a contract signed with fedor because he is dealing with "crazy russians" = idiotic.


Regardless of what circumstances there may be behind the scenes, if Dana WANTS Fedor it is idiocy to insult him/his team/his country. That is like asking Fedor to rape him contractually.



Dude..... what if Fedor's camp ARE a bunch of crazy Russians? It is not a good idea to talk about Fedor like that but it certainly doesn't make him an idiot. Dana has gotten most of the fighters he's wanted in the past year, except Fedor. I'm starting to believe this if more of Fedor's fault.



Do you not understand that REGARDLESS OF THE MERIT of the statement, to insult the person/persons he is trying to recruit is doing him more harm than good?

If he WANTS Fedor(and there is no way he doesn't), it is idiocy to insult him before he has signed a contract.
Piccosaur
7/20/07 12:56:14AM

Posted by thejuice
Yeah, it doesn't make him look like an idiot, it makes him look intelligent. What about Gomi?? Wanderlei?? Barnett?? Hunt?? I'm starting to believe there's no getting through to you you're a diehard Dana White supporter


Actually I really don't like Dana a lot to be honest. I just don't think you can call him an idiot when he has been making the UFC so much better. I would rather sign Cro-Cop and Big Nog then Hunt and Barnett any day. The UFC is being focused WAY too much on it's heavyweight division right now, and if it adds Fedor I feel it will survive a long time with the talent it has. Then we have Wanderlei who said it himself he wanted to fight later on in the year and he WILL get signed by the UFC soon if not before 2008. If the UFC doesn't get Gomi it will be a dissapointment yes, but the UFC's LW division isn't bad right now and maybe they can't afford to bring all of these stars over from Pride so quickly.
Piccosaur
7/20/07 12:59:02AM

Posted by thejuice
If you just admitted PRIDE has better talent, better cards and better rules, how did UFC out do them?? When PRIDE was with Fuji TV (which is like HBO in Japan) they outdid the UFC in every way. Last time I checked SpikeTV isn't premium cable. UFC outdid them by not aligning with mobsters and trying to fix some of their early fights?? True, but that's all.



Hmmmmm I'd say buying PrideFC was kind of outdoing them buisiness wise. The only thing I preferred about Pride was the cards because using the ring was horrible, and personally I don't like when your allowed to stomp/kick someone in the face when they are downed it's too easy and too dangerous.
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