Dan Henderson holds out for more money, Anderson Silva

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ThaAxeMurderer7
9/12/09 12:29:37PM
“I’m holding firm for what I think I deserve. I think I’ve earned that…. If they sign me I’ll fight who they want me to fight. Even if I get Silva now, after I beat him Marquardt would be the top contender, so I’d have to fight him next. Beat him now or beat him later, it doesn’t matter. I’ll have to fight [Nate] Marquardt eventually…. If I was the UFC I wouldn’t waste a fight between [me and Marquardt]. If they want challengers for the middleweight belt they shouldn’t want one of us to beat the other…. It all depends on Anderson Silva,” Henderson said. “If he’s not going to fight until April, I don’t want to wait that long. But I’ll do what I have to do to fight him…. I’m getting in shape like I’m going to fight,” Henderson said. “I want to stay in the UFC.”

Former number one middleweight contender, Dan Henderson, hopes to re-sign a new contract with the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) soon and rematch reigning division champion, Anderson Silva.

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postman
9/12/09 12:57:59PM
He is right. Dan gets his shot Nate gets his whats so hard about that? The only thing I can think is Nate not wanting to wait till early 2010 for his next fight. Dan not only beat Bisping he destroyed him BRUTAL. As did Nate. But Dan was told win and the shot is yours, The UFC shouldn't go back on that. Anderson has 2 tuff challengers in Dan and Nate if he wants to drop the 185 strap and fight 205 then thats fine he needs to denfend agianst these two guys or move on.

Giant_Ochai
9/12/09 1:58:15PM
Dan's afraid of losing to Marquardt. He's never ducked anyone before.
State_Champ
9/12/09 3:36:37PM

Posted by Giant_Ochai

Dan's afraid of losing to Marquardt. He's never ducked anyone before.



But Dan said he was gonna beat Silva.....So by your logic Dan (who lost to Silva as soon as Silva decided to end him) is scared of Nate (who also got demolished by Silva) but he is not afraid of Anderson (who destroys everyone he fights)?

That's an ineresting way to look at it.
RyanC
9/12/09 3:47:48PM

Posted by Giant_Ochai

Dan's afraid of losing to Marquardt. He's never ducked anyone before.



And you know this how?

I seriously doubt Hendo is afraid of anyone. He deserves the shot at Silva first. He was told he was going to get the shot if he beat Bisping. Marquardt should be next in line for whoever wins that fight. Hendo is right, if the UFC is smart they would not want Marquardt or Hendo to knock the other guy out of contention. If you get Henderson v. Silva, and Marquardt v. Winner you get two good title fights rather than a contender fight that really doesn't need to happen and one title fight.
Both guys deserve a shot at a rematch with Anderson IMO.

The layoff between fights does become a problem for Marquardt if he has to wait.



Wallass
9/12/09 3:55:50PM
Dan is definitely not afraid of Nate. Doesnt make sense that hes wanting to fight the best in the world but not somone who he could beat? Keep the dumb comments to yourself.
Brain_Smasher
9/12/09 4:54:07PM
I think the UFC is right in making Dan fight Nate. They both already fought Silva. There is no reason to line up a ton of rematches. The winner moves on the lose dont. Then they prevents 1 rematch. Silva has had 1 rematch with Franklin. There is no need to add Nate and Hendo to the list in Silvas short UFC career. If both get another shot then that would mean we dont see Silva fight anyone different until almost 2011. So the next year would be tied up with old fights. pointless. Dan and nate fight for who gets a second chance and let the division move on.
AnDeRsonDaSiLvA
9/12/09 5:15:47PM
Almost all re/negotiation is done after a loss or in the midst of a contract .

UFC most likely offered dan a contract extension before he fought bisping or ...

thought he was overpaid and planned to negotiate after he lost .

Since dan was already doing TUF , they couldnt freeze him out like arlovski/huerta etc.

Is UFC willing to risk letting Dan go to strikeforce ?

Considering the money UFC put into hyping Dan on tuf and the mainstream appeal he's gotten from the knocking the f*** out bisping , I'll say no .

Dan has UFC by the balls and is smart to hold out for more money .
NeaRMisS
9/12/09 5:21:00PM

Posted by AnDeRsonDaSiLvA

Almost all re/negotiation is done after a loss or in the midst of a contract .

UFC most likely offered dan a contract extension before he fought bisping or ...

thought he was overpaid and planned to negotiate after he lost .

Since dan was already doing TUF , they couldnt freeze him out like arlovski/huerta etc.

Is UFC willing to risk letting Dan go to strikeforce ?

Considering the money UFC put into hyping Dan on tuf and the mainstream appeal he's gotten from the knocking the f*** out bisping , I'll say no .

Dan has UFC by the balls and is smart to hold out for more money .



Great post. I agree 100%. Time for him to start thinking of the money ^_^.
Aaronno9
9/12/09 5:33:22PM
At the end of the day, Dan had his shot at Anderson. And he lost. Same goes for Nate. So for either fighter to say they think they shouldnt have to fight the other and go straight to Anderson is ridiculus imo. Unless Dan was specifically told by the UFC brass he was getting a shot after beating Bisping, he should just man up and take on Nate.
warglory
9/12/09 6:00:26PM

Posted by AnDeRsonDaSiLvA

Almost all re/negotiation is done after a loss or in the midst of a contract .

UFC most likely offered dan a contract extension before he fought bisping or ...

thought he was overpaid and planned to negotiate after he lost .

Since dan was already doing TUF , they couldnt freeze him out like arlovski/huerta etc.

Is UFC willing to risk letting Dan go to strikeforce ?

Considering the money UFC put into hyping Dan on tuf and the mainstream appeal he's gotten from the knocking the f*** out bisping , I'll say no .

Dan has UFC by the balls and is smart to hold out for more money .



This is absolutely the case, props to you my man.
prozacnation1978
9/12/09 8:27:02PM
dan wants tito money

he can either hold out and fight in april against silva or fight again sooner but it would be against nate at 185 or maybe even belfort or wandy silva at 195
mshalosky
9/12/09 8:54:02PM

At the end of the day, Dan had his shot at Anderson. And he lost. Same goes for Nate. So for either fighter to say they think they shouldnt have to fight the other and go straight to Anderson is ridiculus imo. Unless Dan was specifically told by the UFC brass he was getting a shot after beating Bisping, he should just man up and take on Nate.


First of all hendo has earned his shot he beat palahares(misspelled) franklin and bisbing in consecutive fights. and he took the first rd in their fight easily. second of all it was publicly announced that hendo was getting the next shot. and third if they have these to fight who will step up in the middleweight division to fight anderson next? these 2 are the obvious top 2 contenders so eliminating one would put no one in line for the next shot at the title and someone that doesnt deserve it will get the shot. and it puts one of them back at the long road back to the top contender spot.
SpiderSilva
9/12/09 9:00:47PM
This thread makes me smile Silva should fight the winner of these two
Gogoplatapus
9/12/09 11:24:33PM

Posted by AnDeRsonDaSiLvA

Almost all re/negotiation is done after a loss or in the midst of a contract .

UFC most likely offered dan a contract extension before he fought bisping or ...

thought he was overpaid and planned to negotiate after he lost .

Since dan was already doing TUF , they couldnt freeze him out like arlovski/huerta etc.

Is UFC willing to risk letting Dan go to strikeforce ?

Considering the money UFC put into hyping Dan on tuf and the mainstream appeal he's gotten from the knocking the f*** out bisping , I'll say no .

Dan has UFC by the balls and is smart to hold out for more money .



I'll drink that kool-aid. Hendo FTW.
telnights
9/13/09 12:07:24AM
Well Dan isn't what I would call a big draw. Great fighter just no real personality and not a huge star. He is only worth the amount of butts he can put in the seat. Now with that said the UFC pays some guys more than they are worth. But I'm fairly sure the UFC will pay Dan what he wants as long as it isn't a crazy amount of money.
Sinister
9/13/09 2:17:15AM
I hope they resign him. Henderson is #2 at MW and there is a big difference between #2 and #3 (if you consider Franklin no longer a MW)
Sinister
9/13/09 2:19:42AM

Posted by telnights

Well Dan isn't what I would call a big draw. Great fighter just no real personality and not a huge star. He is only worth the amount of butts he can put in the seat. Now with that said the UFC pays some guys more than they are worth. But I'm fairly sure the UFC will pay Dan what he wants as long as it isn't a crazy amount of money.



To a point thats true but Henderson can be argued as one of the best in his division and P4P. You let him go and have him destroy everyone outside of the UFC, then you have another prob like Fedor where people start saying he is good or better than Silva. Its different from Fedor though. Maybe Jorge Santigo would be a better example?
fonduktoe
9/13/09 2:37:24AM

Posted by Sinister


Posted by telnights

Well Dan isn't what I would call a big draw. Great fighter just no real personality and not a huge star. He is only worth the amount of butts he can put in the seat. Now with that said the UFC pays some guys more than they are worth. But I'm fairly sure the UFC will pay Dan what he wants as long as it isn't a crazy amount of money.



To a point thats true but Henderson can be argued as one of the best in his division and P4P. You let him go and have him destroy everyone outside of the UFC, then you have another prob like Fedor where people start saying he is good or better than Silva. Its different from Fedor though. Maybe Jorge Santigo would be a better example?

that argument holds no water considering he's already fought in the ufc and has lost to silva. i do agree that non ufc fighters get their ranking inflated by fighting sub par opponents (see robbie lawler) but the fedor comparison doesn't make sense here. (i know you caught yourself and yes santiago is a better example but i still don't see this scenario happening with hendo.)
mentalcase
9/13/09 2:45:47AM
Hendo doesn't deserves a shot any more the marquardt dose if anything Nate deserves it more

hendo hardly beat franklin at best it was a draw check the stats on fight metric
Copenhagen
9/13/09 2:06:57PM

Posted by mentalcase

Hendo doesn't deserves a shot any more the marquardt dose if anything Nate deserves it more

hendo hardly beat franklin at best it was a draw check the stats on fight metric



Dan fought one of the best middleweights EVER. Nate did not.
RMFG_187
9/13/09 3:57:31PM
Hendo hasn't beaten a top 5 fighter since wandy. And he has the biggest mouth in the UFC. He needs to lea3n his place. When a silva kos him this time, he might stfu. But who knos, its hendo were talkin bout
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