Culinary Union asks Fox to pull Stephens from FOX 5

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FastKnockout
12/5/12 3:04:32PM
The UFC's biggest free TV card to date is coming up this Saturday with UFC On Fox 5. Despite the excitement building for the card, their matchmaking decisions have brought the ire of their biggest political rival, the Culinary Workers Union.

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BuffaloDave
12/5/12 3:19:47PM
The Culinary Union asking Fox to pull Stephens and Trujillo, would be like Peta asking them to pull Kiefer Sutherland after his D-dubs a few years ago.
40ouncetofreedom
12/5/12 4:46:50PM
So if this culinary union has beef with Fox and some athletes in the UFC with criminal records...Then why don't they have beef with the all the NFL players with criminal backgrounds that play every sunday ?

I could just be misunderstanding the whole deal as to what this culinary union is all about...I know the NFLPA is it's own union...so maybe that was a shitty comparison on my part ?
kingsmasher
12/5/12 5:49:23PM

Posted by iwannabesedated

So if this culinary union has beef with Fox and some athletes in the UFC with criminal records...Then why don't they have beef with the all the NFL players with criminal backgrounds that play every sunday ?

I could just be misunderstanding the whole deal as to what this culinary union is all about...I know the NFLPA is it's own union...so maybe that was a shitty comparison on my part ?




How many players have what Stephens is being accused of on their rap sheet? I actually asking this question...
cowcatcher
12/5/12 5:58:04PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by iwannabesedated

So if this culinary union has beef with Fox and some athletes in the UFC with criminal records...Then why don't they have beef with the all the NFL players with criminal backgrounds that play every sunday ?

I could just be misunderstanding the whole deal as to what this culinary union is all about...I know the NFLPA is it's own union...so maybe that was a shitty comparison on my part ?




How many players have what Stephens is being accused of on their rap sheet? I actually asking this question...



I'll just give one example: Ray Lewis was part of a group that shot and killed a guy. Football players that have done far worse than Stephens have gotten to continue playing.
Twenty20Dollars
12/5/12 5:58:58PM
Article also talks about other people not just Stephens. Rampage, Rashad, and others with the twitter mishaps. I'm guessing they are thinking anyone that has done anything bad should not compete.

Stephens and Trujillo are not on the main FOX card, they are on FX.

But, whatever. People always complain.
Bubbles
12/5/12 6:03:56PM

Posted by iwannabesedated

So if this culinary union has beef with Fox and some athletes in the UFC with criminal records...Then why don't they have beef with the all the NFL players with criminal backgrounds that play every sunday ?

I could just be misunderstanding the whole deal as to what this culinary union is all about...I know the NFLPA is it's own union...so maybe that was a shitty comparison on my part ?


Those players could be seen on CBS instead

seriously though, what is this culinary union? When I read the name, I keep thinking it's a group of executive chefs and cooks and they have no business discussing the fight game. It would be like Emeril talking to Nate Diaz about a gameplan
GSPCanada
12/5/12 6:46:39PM
What a joke. A worker's union saying someone should not be allowed to work because of their criminal record. Don't unions usually defend workers who are fired for the same type of conduct?
tallica62
12/5/12 6:58:44PM
I actually read that, and there is much much more in what they are asking the UFC/Fox to do... excuse me, but I say "f" them. While on the surface their intentions are not bad per say, but what about all other professional sports who have athletes with a history....I don't see them writing these letters to CBS/NBC/ESPN about some NFL players and their history

They are just picking on MMA. Not saying what Trujillo did was right, but it was in the past, and I believe he has gone through the due process of law - maybe he's reformed, maybe he's not...I don't know, but they are digging up skeletons.

And Stephens is innocent until proven guilty...you can't punish him as a pre-emptive strike...BS!
Bustamante-Aoki
12/5/12 7:19:53PM
Station Casino's (which is owned by the Fertita's owe the Culinary union a lot of money. Station shafted the union on money when they filed for bankruptcy a few years back.

The rumor is that the culinary union has a lot of pull in NYC and are the reason MMA is not allowed in New York.

The Fertitas are both billionaires. They should just pay the union so they can pay their blue-collar workers who are getting screwed over by Station.

I've never agreed with the politics behind corporations. The Fertitas clearly have the money to pay off Station's debts, they just don't want to, and are using legal and political loop-holes to shift their debt and not pay the workers. It's not right that the law protects billionaires over these blue-collar workers that are getting screwed.

I'm sure the culinary union could care less about Jeremy Stephens, or any NFL players. They're just trying to tarnish the image of Zuffa, and who can blame them. They have good reason to hate the Fertitas. This is just politics. It has little to do with Stephens or the UFC in general, and everything to do with the Fertitas, and Station Casino's shorting a bunch of employees who worked for them.
Budgellism
12/5/12 7:56:06PM
This is stupid. No more fights pulled. I can't handle it
BuffaloDave
12/5/12 7:59:00PM

Posted by cowcatcher


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by iwannabesedated

So if this culinary union has beef with Fox and some athletes in the UFC with criminal records...Then why don't they have beef with the all the NFL players with criminal backgrounds that play every sunday ?

I could just be misunderstanding the whole deal as to what this culinary union is all about...I know the NFLPA is it's own union...so maybe that was a shitty comparison on my part ?




How many players have what Stephens is being accused of on their rap sheet? I actually asking this question...



I'll just give one example: Ray Lewis was part of a group that shot and killed a guy. Football players that have done far worse than Stephens have gotten to continue playing.



It was actually a stabbing, two people were murdered.
Gogoplatapus
12/5/12 9:39:11PM
This is a smear by the union. Trying to get UFC bad press. Nothing to see here.
40ouncetofreedom
12/5/12 10:56:03PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by iwannabesedated

So if this culinary union has beef with Fox and some athletes in the UFC with criminal records...Then why don't they have beef with the all the NFL players with criminal backgrounds that play every sunday ?

I could just be misunderstanding the whole deal as to what this culinary union is all about...I know the NFLPA is it's own union...so maybe that was a shitty comparison on my part ?




How many players have what Stephens is being accused of on their rap sheet? I actually asking this question...



Dez Bryant and the Cowboys are on fox just about every Sunday they don't have a Monday or Sunday night game (atleast for what my viewing area broadcasts) and he got a nice record before this season started.Similar to domestic violence.
FlashyG
12/5/12 11:27:52PM
The Website they advise the reader to check out "unfitforchildren.org" is created and maintained by the Culinary Workers Union Local 226. The petition that they reference was started and distributed by their parent organization Unite Here. The local union alone has over 60k members and they could only get 10k signatures on it so I don't really see it as support for their cause.

I can't believe how far this union will go to try and hurt the pocketbooks of the Fertitta's.

grappler0000
12/5/12 11:50:29PM

Posted by FlashyG

The Website they advise the reader to check out "unfitforchildren.org" is created and maintained by the Culinary Workers Union Local 226. The petition that they reference was started and distributed by their parent organization Unite Here. The local union alone has over 60k members and they could only get 10k signatures on it so I don't really see it as support for their cause.

I can't believe how far this union will go to try and hurt the pocketbooks of the Fertitta's.




And New York fighters are just the collateral damage. The Culinary Union are no better than what they claim to be advocating against.

Sir_Karl
12/6/12 1:06:41AM
All this letter does is show how low, pathetic, vindictive and absurd the Culinary Union is. They need to find a hobby and get a life.
infestructure
12/6/12 4:05:43AM

Posted by FlashyG

The Website they advise the reader to check out "unfitforchildren.org" is created and maintained by the Culinary Workers Union Local 226. The petition that they reference was started and distributed by their parent organization Unite Here. The local union alone has over 60k members and they could only get 10k signatures on it so I don't really see it as support for their cause.

I can't believe how far this union will go to try and hurt the pocketbooks of the Fertitta's.




Lame isn't it? Haha I checked out that site, they have the funniest video down the bottom of the page about not buying UFC toys for kids. Thy actually put some time and money into it
airkerma
12/6/12 9:17:47AM
I absolutely despise politics and politicians, no matter what mask or what terrain. These types of people consistently alter the issue as much as they can to get a leg up while pushing someone else down, and more often than not, they bring someone down who is not even involved in their particular gripe. All they end up doing is coming across as hypocrites, as others mentioned, they didn't have an issue with other athletes from different sports.
telnights
12/6/12 10:01:44AM

Posted by grappler0000


Posted by FlashyG

The Website they advise the reader to check out "unfitforchildren.org" is created and maintained by the Culinary Workers Union Local 226. The petition that they reference was started and distributed by their parent organization Unite Here. The local union alone has over 60k members and they could only get 10k signatures on it so I don't really see it as support for their cause.

I can't believe how far this union will go to try and hurt the pocketbooks of the Fertitta's.




And New York fighters are just the collateral damage. The Culinary Union are no better than what they claim to be advocating against.




This is very sad but true. Culinary Union has put in millions to trying to block the UFC every chance they get. But that money would have been better spent on the union itself or campaigning for better worker rights and insurance for it own people. Yet they rather hurt other people to try to force them in to their union.
Svartorm
12/6/12 10:44:11AM
Being as I'm an MMA writer and own a restaurant, the union actually contacted me personally about supporting their cause. Having spent time talking with them about the subject of homosexuals in MMA (which was their original beef with the UFC) I can say without any hesitation, they know NOTHING about sports.

Now they have a crusade against fighters with records, which is perhaps even more ridiculous. I can't shout out a percentage because I don't know, but MANY of the people involved in the culinary industry learned to cook in jail/prison. Especially in Vegas and NYC, there are job placement programs for convicts that put them into kitchens once they're back on the streets. They receive training in the prison/jail kitchens and are given Servsafe Certifications while behind bars, which makes them a shoe-in for entry level positions. Especially in Vegas, which is the rehab capital of the US, they should be careful about demanding action against people with criminal records or shady pasts.
BuffaloDave
12/6/12 12:17:24PM

Posted by Svartorm

Being as I'm an MMA writer and own a restaurant, the union actually contacted me personally about supporting their cause. Having spent time talking with them about the subject of homosexuals in MMA (which was their original beef with the UFC) I can say without any hesitation, they know NOTHING about sports.

Now they have a crusade against fighters with records, which is perhaps even more ridiculous. I can't shout out a percentage because I don't know, but MANY of the people involved in the culinary industry learned to cook in jail/prison. Especially in Vegas and NYC, there are job placement programs for convicts that put them into kitchens once they're back on the streets. They receive training in the prison/jail kitchens and are given Servsafe Certifications while behind bars, which makes them a shoe-in for entry level positions. Especially in Vegas, which is the rehab capital of the US, they should be careful about demanding action against people with criminal records or shady pasts.




You should send a letter to Zuffa, explaining what you said here, to them.
Svartorm
12/6/12 2:42:22PM
I don't think anyone would ever read it honesty. Unless I had inside connections, no one of any clout would see it. Maybe I can get Front Row Brian to show it to someone.
ncordless
12/6/12 4:12:04PM
The latest manifestation of the battle between station and the unions that 1) really has nothing to do with MMA, and 2) is nothing but bad for MMA.


Something has to give. MMA needs to get away from Station.
ncordless
12/6/12 4:18:28PM

Posted by Svartorm

I don't think anyone would ever read it honesty. Unless I had inside connections, no one of any clout would see it. Maybe I can get Front Row Brian to show it to someone.



I am sure they are aware. But what would they do about it? Try to get legislation passed that would require a criminal background check to be a food handler? No way that would get passed. They don't have the same leverage, because there is no third party to complain to. FOX isn't going to care that much about this latest political skirmish, but it is just one more drop in the bucket that will eventually overflow.