Cro Cop in a cage For The 1st Time

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BloodandTears
2/1/07 11:11:46AM
Obviously for us Mirko fans we know this is the first time in UFC. He has fought primarly Pride throughout his career which takes place in a ring. I am wondering if his style is going to be more complimentary to the ring or the cage. Do you think, keeping his style in mind that the cage will benifit him? Hinder him? or have no effect on him? IMO the cage should be an effective tool to the match not having to be restarted. This should give him more opportunity to get the KO. I look forward to seeing how or if it effects his skills.
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ElGuApO91
2/1/07 11:46:03AM
i doubt it will affect his skills at all except if sanchez pushes him up against the fence.
allevil86
2/1/07 11:57:28AM
being in a cage probably won't affect him kicking eddies head into the floor seats.
Soundsfishy
2/1/07 12:10:03PM
Mirkos days are numbered!!!!!! The only way he can win is with one of those lucky headkicks that he somehow landed on the total noob wandy. Sanchez is going to pick him apart on the feet and push him against the fence and finish him off with his signature overhand right.
nate22
2/1/07 12:11:15PM
Well he will be fine until he comes up a great wrestler with the ablilty to take him down and use the cage to their advantage.

Who you ask? Well Randy if he gets by Tim.
nate22
2/1/07 12:11:58PM

Posted by Soundsfishy

Mirkos days are numbered!!!!!! The only way he can win is with one of those lucky headkicks that he somehow landed on the total noob wandy. Sanchez is going to pick him apart on the feet and push him against the fence and finish him off with his signature overhand right.



LOL here come the trolls.
loller90278
2/1/07 12:39:48PM

Posted by nate22


Posted by Soundsfishy

Mirkos days are numbered!!!!!! The only way he can win is with one of those lucky headkicks that he somehow landed on the total noob wandy. Sanchez is going to pick him apart on the feet and push him against the fence and finish him off with his signature overhand right.



LOL here come the trolls.



ban quick ban hard, and lastly, ban without mercy!
this happens all the time when something on the downlow becomes more mainstream, like graffiti. after mark eckos getting up everybody became a tagger, while REAL artists (like myself) have been doin it many many many years ago.

/frusterated
Rampage_Soldier
2/1/07 2:26:44PM

Posted by Soundsfishy

Mirkos days are numbered!!!!!! The only way he can win is with one of those lucky headkicks that he somehow landed on the total noob wandy. Sanchez is going to pick him apart on the feet and push him against the fence and finish him off with his signature overhand right.



<insert Tito's hyena laugh here> you can't be serious
allevil86
2/1/07 3:59:17PM
I used to get pissed about trolling but if it's something they actually thoght about before they posted it it is kinda funny sometimes unlike the above.
hippysmacker
2/1/07 7:49:08PM

Posted by allevil86

I used to get pissed about trolling but if it's something they actually thoght about before they posted it it is kinda funny sometimes unlike the above.



Cro-cop answered this question in a interview right after he signed with the UFC. He said the octagon looks like a socccer field, it's so big. It's larger than a pride ring, and he'll have a lot more room to maneuver. That being said, he did use the ropes pretty well to bounce off of in pride, and we won't know till someone like Randy pins him against the cage on the ground ,how he will react. If he get's taken down, their will be no more restarts to move him to the center of the ring when he got tangled in the ropes. It's got advantages and disadvantages, Still, his takedown defense is rivaled only by Chuck.
tuthemaxx
2/1/07 8:34:51PM

Posted by ElGuApO91

i doubt it will affect his skills at all except if sanchez pushes him up against the fence.



sanchez will not get close enough
JunCTion
2/2/07 1:43:18AM
cage might be bettere for cro-cop. he can controll the center of the ring, circle his opponent (who can't lean back over the ropes or hide in a corner), save his energy for the sprawl and punch and kick at wiil. just like chuck. cro-cop is the heavy weight version of chuck.
DoTheMMAth
2/2/07 2:28:30AM

Posted by nate22

LOL here come the trolls.



Sorry, but with nate on the prowl the trolls have a short life
pv3Hpv3p
2/2/07 10:19:58AM

Posted by nate22

Well he will be fine until he comes up a great wrestler with the ablilty to take him down and use the cage to their advantage.

Who you ask? Well Randy if he gets by Tim.



The cage seems to both help and hinder wrestlers depending on their opponent...

If CC can use it like Chuck does, and just press against it and stand up, then it will be a huge asset to his game.

In all I don't think it will effect his overall game too much though...

He's got such a quick sprawl n brawl technigue, that a wrestler like Tito or someone of that ilk wouldn't really stand a chance at getting a TD (See the CC / Coleman fight).

But I can see the logic behind a grecko roman wrestler like Randy, or even a 6 inch taller, 70lbs heavier version of Karo might stand a chance. Anybody know if one of those exists?
jmoooooo
2/2/07 10:58:12AM

Posted by pv3Hpv3p


Posted by nate22

Well he will be fine until he comes up a great wrestler with the ablilty to take him down and use the cage to their advantage.

Who you ask? Well Randy if he gets by Tim.



The cage seems to both help and hinder wrestlers depending on their opponent...

If CC can use it like Chuck does, and just press against it and stand up, then it will be a huge asset to his game.

In all I don't think it will effect his overall game too much though...

He's got such a quick sprawl n brawl technigue, that a wrestler like Tito or someone of that ilk wouldn't really stand a chance at getting a TD (See the CC / Coleman fight).

But I can see the logic behind a grecko roman wrestler like Randy, or even a 6 inch taller, 70lbs heavier version of Karo might stand a chance. Anybody know if one of those exists?




6 inch taller, 70lb heavier judoka...........Fedor?
BabbyHughes
2/2/07 11:15:30AM

IMO the cage should be an effective tool to the match not having to be restarted. This should give him more opportunity to get the KO. I look forward to seeing how or if it effects his skills.

I agree, I think it will make it even easier to finish fights by KO or TKO. I can't wait to see/hear the crowd's reaction when he throws that high kick.
BalledBull
2/2/07 11:22:33AM

Posted by hippysmacker


Posted by allevil86

I used to get pissed about trolling but if it's something they actually thoght about before they posted it it is kinda funny sometimes unlike the above.



Cro-cop answered this question in a interview right after he signed with the UFC. He said the octagon looks like a socccer field, it's so big. It's larger than a pride ring, and he'll have a lot more room to maneuver. That being said, he did use the ropes pretty well to bounce off of in pride, and we won't know till someone like Randy pins him against the cage on the ground ,how he will react. If he get's taken down, their will be no more restarts to move him to the center of the ring when he got tangled in the ropes. It's got advantages and disadvantages, Still, his takedown defense is rivaled only by Chuck.



I didnt see that interview (wish I would have) however being in the ring for 14 years then seeing the octagon for the first time I do know that there are alot of differences in terms of size. This is where the question comes from, in my opinion Cro Cop found a way to use the ring to the fullest by using the rope-a-dope. I am anxiously awaiting his octagon debut to see if the cage plays a factor in his performance. If you have never fought as a sport you dont realize that the ring makes such a huge diffrence. I started boxing in a standard 18X18' ring, taking 2' or adding 2' changes the way I fight. The diffrences here are much greater than 2'! Please Realize that we will see a change of strategy on the part of CroCop! There are no ropes to bounce off of, and there is no restarts due to being too close to the edge. We may not see it his first fight, but eventually we will see the cage play a factor in his performance, hopefully he is prepared.
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BloodandTears
2/2/07 12:12:15PM
Thats it man! You nailed it, there is no way that after finely tuning your fighting ability to fight in the ring, then stepping into a cage, it would make no change in the way you fight. It will play a factor eventually, IMO for the better!!
pv3Hpv3p
2/2/07 12:22:28PM
6 inch taller, 70lb heavier judoka...........Fedor?


Right on the button...
jeffgwa
2/2/07 6:13:46PM

Posted by allevil86

being in a cage probably won't affect him kicking eddies head into the floor seats.



Actually it will, Eddie's head will bounce off the cage instead of landing in the 4th row.
Trapt1nw0nder
2/2/07 6:40:01PM
I dont think it will affect CroCop... at least not with Sanchez....i just hope he breaks him down slowly...i prefer a 3rd round TKO over 1st anyday
BloodandTears
2/2/07 7:30:02PM

Posted by Trapt1nw0nder

I dont think it will affect CroCop... at least not with Sanchez....i just hope he breaks him down slowly...i prefer a 3rd round TKO over 1st anyday



I do too except for now. No one would bet against cc so I started taking round bets. I got a few on cc for round 1... Come on cc bring the pain upon these mortals
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