What Couture vs. Lesnar Means for the UFC Heavyweight Division

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MMAcca
9/2/08 1:44:36PM
This weekend has brought an absolute storm in the blogoland, with rumors flying of Randy coming back to face Lesnar at UFC 91, in what will almost certainly be a title match, as the first fight in a three-fight deal. This matchup, and the other rumors about Randy's return, suggest all sorts of interesting possibilities.

Scenario 1: Couture beats Lesnar

If Couture beats Lesnar, this sets up two possible matchups for Randy. First is the unification match with the winner of Nogueira/Mir. The second and more interesting matchup is the rumor of a fight with Fedor:

The long-rumored heavyweight superfight between UFC champion Randy Couture (16-8 MMA, 8-5 UFC) and WAMMA champion Fedor Emelianenko (28-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC) is currently being discussed for an as-yet-unspecified date in January or February of 2009.

I suggested in a previous fanpost that the matchup would never happen. Both my own and other people's analysis has been that the UFC would never build up Fedor just so he could fight elsewhere. But the UFC has access to better numbers than any of us. Its quite possible that they have run the calculus and concluded that the UFC is now untouchable by any upstart company grabbing top fighters: the cost of the top fighters would make it impossible to build brand equity and achieve break-even before going under. I figured it would be a few more years before this would be the case, but the struggles Affliction has encountered suggest that perhaps the day is already here. If it indeed is, the UFC doesn't have to worry about Fedor going elsewhere, because he costs too much for upstart promotions to survive his paycheck.

If a Randy/Fedor fight comes to fruition, the winner of Nog/Mir might be able to fight Werdum in the meantime. Afterwards, the title could be unified, or Randy's piece of the title could be retired if Fedor wins and then leaves.

Lesnar beats the crap out of Cheick Kongo in his rebound fight.





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Pookie
9/2/08 1:51:16PM
haha the "Stop laughing." Part is hilarious
motorboatensob
9/2/08 3:29:04PM
I am not being a Randy hater but I don't know if he can get past Lesnar. I know Randy is crafty but everything he is good at Lesnar is better. Striking Lesnar>Randy Wrestling Lesnar > Randy Power Lesnar > Randy. I really don't know if Randy can handle him this would put Lesnar against Nog and as soon as that goes to the ground Nog by sub because Lesnar just isn't ready yet for someones ground game that's that good yet. After that Fedor just wonders the world looking for large wild animals to fight.
xburbx
9/2/08 4:03:28PM
I dont like Randy at all but to counter the above statement

experience Randy>Lesnar
ability to structure and stick to a gameplan as far as we know Randy>Lesnar

I would actually still take Lesnar but I dont think it is as clear cut.
prozacnation1978
9/2/08 7:57:48PM
looks like it will be lesnar vs couture
mir vs big nog

but would it be funny if it comes down to mir vs lesnar the rematch
Aether
9/2/08 11:41:54PM

Posted by motorboatensob

I am not being a Randy hater but I don't know if he can get past Lesnar. I know Randy is crafty but everything he is good at Lesnar is better. Striking Lesnar>Randy Wrestling Lesnar > Randy Power Lesnar > Randy. I really don't know if Randy can handle him this would put Lesnar against Nog and as soon as that goes to the ground Nog by sub because Lesnar just isn't ready yet for someones ground game that's that good yet. After that Fedor just wonders the world looking for large wild animals to fight.



How can you say that Lesnar has better striking than Randy? The guy has thrown like 3 punches so far. There's no way you can make that assessment based on what we've seen from both of them so far. Power is clearly Lesnar's but as far as technical wrestling ability I'd have to say that's debatable. Lesnar has a better college record, but Randy was also a 2 time div 1 ncaa runner up, and an olympic alternate. Lesnar is obviously the more powerful wrestler, but him being a better wrestler is debatable.

Probably the most important factor here is going to be gameplanning in which randy >>>>>> lesnar. Lesnar is going to try to do the only thing he knows how to do, and Randy has the luxury of knowing exactly what to expect. I think Lesnar has a good chance to pull this off, but I also think people are writing Randy off a little too soon.
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