Couture

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tommyprairie
8/26/07 12:37:01AM
Couture is my hero. Wow! is all I can say. Absolute Street Beast
akumairon
8/26/07 12:39:38AM
amazing win by couture
dstlvb
8/26/07 12:41:37AM
Is Couture vs Nogeria early 2008 next
Jackelope
8/26/07 1:59:28AM
BAM! To everyone that argued with me and jumped on the GG bandwagon- read 'em and weep! Couture, still the champ, still the man! haha I loved it!!
Ydoc
8/26/07 2:04:53AM
Couture VS. Gonzaga

Couture does it again. That man is a monster, and I will never bet against him as long as he decides to do this. Check out that slam where he busted Gabe's nose, it was beautiful. Gotta go move Couture up in my ratings now... I do think Nog needs some more fights before challenging the champ. Wish the UFC would sign Josh, I would like to see Randy try to avenge a loss.
Piccosaur
8/26/07 2:08:39AM
What about the other fights????
postman
8/26/07 2:13:02AM
gg by what? KO/TKO. HAHAHA Hes still on top! "I can't see. I can't see! Where are all the GG lovers? It's such a shame they didn't give RANDY HIS REAL ODDS ON THEY PLAYGROUND I would have road the bank! Godd night!
JWils
8/26/07 2:32:29AM

Posted by Jackelope

BAM! To everyone that argued with me and jumped on the GG bandwagon- read 'em and weep! Couture, still the champ, still the man! haha I loved it!!



Couture is the man. I hate to say that I'm one of the many that crashed and burned on the Gonzaga band wagon. I still think he's a good fighter but damn Randy took it to him. Awesome performance by Couture.
cmill21
8/26/07 2:44:13AM
Randy proved we shoulden't doubt him, he also proved that gg's win over Mirko was a fluke. I'm so happy randy won. The UFC's plan is for the winner of Mirko vs. kongo to fight big nog for the #1 contender. So I'm really hoping we see a big nog Mirko rematch and then get to see randy and Mirko fight. Or maybe the UFC will get Fedor and then right theres his next title defense.
postman
8/26/07 3:05:53AM
Everything is so slow i can't take it Crazy horse got ko on showtime tonight
Stickan
8/26/07 4:53:47AM

Posted by cmill21

Randy proved we shoulden't doubt him, he also proved that gg's win over Mirko was a fluke.



Damn, your nuthugging is getting ridiculous. How did this fight prove that Gonzaga´s destruction of Mirko was a fluke? Gonzaga DOMINATED CC. Accept it!.

Just like I have to accept that I got owned badly this event.
Randy ALWAYS proves me wrong but I always get the gut feeling that this is the end of the road for him but nooooo, he goes out there and takes all my money away. My gut sucks.
cmill21
8/26/07 5:25:27AM
I think quite a few people would agree with me acctually. When Mirko lost to fedor, he was beat by the better fighter, if Mirko or anyone else loses and they are beaten by a better fighter I'll be the first to say it. Do you think that Serra's a better fighter then GSP? Please man if you want to call me out and be an ass do it in a PM. I honestly believe that gg won't beat another top 5 in his career, he got an uninspired unprepared Mirko and threw a lucky kick, he'll never land another one like it in his career. Sorry your bandwagon blew up, I'm sure there will be room on the Vera one you can hop on it.
Stickan
8/26/07 7:37:17AM

Posted by cmill21

I think quite a few people would agree with me acctually. When Mirko lost to fedor, he was beat by the better fighter, if Mirko or anyone else loses and they are beaten by a better fighter I'll be the first to say it. Do you think that Serra's a better fighter then GSP? Please man if you want to call me out and be an ass do it in a PM. I honestly believe that gg won't beat another top 5 in his career, he got an uninspired unprepared Mirko and threw a lucky kick, he'll never land another one like it in his career. Sorry your bandwagon blew up, I'm sure there will be room on the Vera one you can hop on it.



If I'm being an ass so be it but I don't see how that dominating performance was a fluke. It's not like the kick was the only thing he landed in that fight. He took CC down, smashed him up with elbows, got stood up for no reason and set up the fight ending high-kick with great low kicks.

I just think it's stupid not to appreciate the skill and effort GG put in to beat such a great fighter as CC. I'm not on any bandwagon really, I just thought Gonzaga would beat Couture just like I think Nogueira would beat Gonzaga....

I agree with you in that I don't think Gonzaga will be that special but Gonzaga - Mirko was a clear case of a really bad match-up for Mirko. It doesn't mean Gonzaga can beat everybody that Mirko's beaten cuz fighting is no simple math like that, it just means that it was a great stylistic match-up for Gonzaga and he won that fight fair and square.
Ydoc
8/26/07 11:01:06AM
Simply put cmill is wrong and Stickan is right. Gonzaga VS CroCop was no fluke, that kick that ended the fight was the whipped cream on top of the pie of dominance that Gonzaga made. If round two had happened it would see a dizzy Mirko getting taken down and finished. Gabe executed his game plan perfectly:

1: Catch kick and get to on top to work elbows.
2: Circle and wait for my shot since the round is closing, but no biggy if it doesn't land, just repeat 1 in round 2.

Gabe knew the tools he had and used them in his planning, that's why he won. Same reason Randy just won against Gabe.
cmill21
8/26/07 3:35:06PM
I think had he won on the ground it woulden't have been a fluke. It was the way he won that made it a fluke, we saw last night that he can't throw that kick consistantly, he hit randy and it barly made a noise. If you do something you can't repeat, thats a fluke.
Jackelope
8/26/07 4:26:06PM
The elbows and the GnP weren't a fluke. The kick to the head was thrown because he saw an opening.

The only real fluke about that fight is that CC came in underprepared and totally underestimated his opponent. In that sense, for GG it was a fluke win. I think if Mirko had been on his game it'd be lights out GG. So yeah, in that sense, the fight was a fluke.

As for GG executing his gameplan- that wasn't a fluke. He did good by taking him down and throwing elbows. Something he knew Mirko hadn't faced before. Kudos to GG for that fight (thank God Randy came back and proved that GG is not top, top competition) and negative props for Mirko for being an ass and not taking it seriously. Negative props for people thinking Gonzaga's striking is top material, but props for those realizing the guy has some weapons and is a contender, just not top, top competition with an excellent striking game.

I think we can all agree on that stuff, right?

cmill21
8/26/07 4:39:29PM
I agree, I just thought that if you throw a kick and connect, but you can't do it again(tried against randy) it's a fluke. I don't think the ground was a fluke, the elbows botherd Mirko, and that lead to not being able to block it. I can't beleive talk about gonzaga's striking though, we saw tonight that he's not what he thought he was, he should have stuck to BJJ.
Jackelope
8/26/07 5:16:25PM
Totally agree with you.

If you read back on the posts before the fights I'm pretty sure you and I were on the same page as far as Gonzaga goes. I do have to admit that my respect for his striking did go up slightly with this fight. Not for the headkicks, but because he had a couple well placed punches in there. Randy was ducking and weaving, but Gonzaga stayed right on target. The only problems he really faced were when Randy decided to exchange with him.

People talk bad about Randy's standup game but I feel like his boxing isn't too terrible, and obviously his dirty boxing is among the best. Looking back on Gonzaga's previous fights something I hadn't thought about before, but now is glaringly obvious to me is the fact that nobody had really put Gonzaga up against the fence and subjected him to that particular brand of fight.

I swear, call it nut hugging but I just can't say enough about Randy's mental game. He just absolutely dominates the sport when it comes to the game plan.

Gonzaga's going to be around still, don't you doubt. He's also a very smart and very likeable guy. Not to mention young. I think he'll have learned more from this one fight than he has learned in all his other fights combined.
cmill21
8/26/07 10:50:55PM
I'm interested to see what plan randy would come up with for big nog and Fedor. I think he would have trouble with fedor, but you never know with randy do you.
Stickan
8/27/07 10:08:31AM

Posted by cmill21

I think had he won on the ground it woulden't have been a fluke. It was the way he won that made it a fluke, we saw last night that he can't throw that kick consistantly, he hit randy and it barly made a noise. If you do something you can't repeat, thats a fluke.


It just doesn't make any sense at all to me. So just because Gonzaga couldn't KO Couture with the same kick he KO´d Mirko with it's an obvious fluke? Two totally different fights, two totally different fighters with Couture knowing what a Gonzaga kick could do to you.

Was Babalu´s win over Heath a fluke? Because I've seen him try anacondas many times before and fail.

Doesn't it strike you that Couture just might have been a little bit more aware of Gonzagas new found love for kicking and was a little bit more prepared for it? Plus Gonzaga looked like he was striking and kicking out of desperation this time. Like he just wanted Couture to go down fast so he couldn't close the distance and take him down again.

I'm not saying Gonzaga is a better striker than Mirko cuz that would be a joke. I'm also not saying he's an elite striker by any means. I'm just saying that it was he who chose to throw the kick that brutally knocked out Mirko, it wasn't Mirko who accidently bobbed his head to his left just as Gonzaga lost his balance and accidently kicked Mirko´s head off.
cmill21
8/27/07 3:47:43PM
But he conntected with randy, that kick was a fluke, no babalu's was not a fluke. He threw a kick and it landed fine, but he'll never repeat the feat, it's like lobing up a basketball behind your back from 30 feet away, it may go in once but when you try it the next day, air ball.
hotrodttt
8/27/07 5:05:38PM
Couture will have his belt for at least 2 -3 more title defences

I don' t think Big Nog should get a title shot imo because he looked crappy against Heath .
Jackelope
8/27/07 5:46:18PM
I can't believe people keep saying this about Big Nog. He's fought the guy so many times which mitigates a lot of game plans. Heath stunned him real well, which took a lot of the fire out of him for a good portion of the fight. Not to mention Heath Herring is a tough, tough, tough dude. He's not the prettiest or most technical fighter out there, but the dude has skills. A win over him isn't something I would just brush off as easy, personally.
cmill21
8/27/07 6:33:44PM
Heath is acctually a very good fighter. That kick would have ko'd alot of people but nog was just stunned, nogs tough, his boxings improving everyday and his JJ...well thats ok I guess.
Jackelope
8/27/07 8:20:09PM
LOL yeah.. it's just o.k.

One of the most impressive things to me about Nog is in fact his chin. That guy has taken some punishment over the years. He's as tough as they come.

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