Is Cote a bigger underdog than Serra was?

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POLL: Cote is bigger underdog?
Yes 40% (27)
No 43% (29)
Even 18% (12)
Taylor8766
8/20/08 1:33:45PM
Okay Matt Serra was a huge underdog in his fight with GSP, but I was just wondering if you guys think the Cote is a bigger underdog in his fight with Silva than Serra was.
ohiostate1016
8/20/08 1:44:06PM
Serra was an 8-1 underdog against GSP in their first fight.

I'd say that Cote is about 10-1 against Silva.

Therefore, Cote is the bigger underdog.
Naturaldisaster
8/20/08 1:50:13PM
I dont think he is.
cowcatcher
8/20/08 1:52:43PM
i dont think he is, but i guess when the vegas lines close we'll know for sure.
Ordep
8/20/08 3:12:00PM
I thought Cote would take Gonzaga's crown as "MMA Playground Biggest Underdog" but the trend is not going that way.
Rush
8/20/08 3:17:00PM
As far as picking odds, I think Patrick is a bigger underdog.

However, I feel that in reality he has a better chance of beating Silva than Serra does beating a healthy GSP.

I personally go with the latter so I voted "no".
holt8081
8/20/08 4:29:01PM
what would cote's game plan be, what does he have to do to beat silva
cowcatcher
8/20/08 4:32:12PM

Posted by holt8081

what would cote's game plan be, what does he have to do to beat silva



land a huge shot is the gameplan, prayer and walking old ladies across streets to get the old karma up is the training
ToeZup
8/20/08 4:38:53PM
That is a good question Taylor. I think Serra was a bigger underdog but Cote is right there. Cote's best bet would be...believe it or not....stand with Silva. If he can be patient, pic his shots and throw them with the power he has he might have a chance. Obviously my money is on Silva in the end though.
Twenty20Dollars
8/20/08 5:46:13PM
im going to say no, because i think cote is a more accomplished fight than serra.
jiujitsufreak74
8/20/08 5:55:29PM
How anyone could vote yes is beyond me....

Cote has at least defeated significant fighters going into this fight where as Serra got a gift title shot that everyone wrote off as a loss. Cote at least has a shot to win this fight with powerful stand up where as Serra had absolutely no shot...if i could go back in time to that April morning i would still pick GSP...well maybe not because i would want to get rich but you see my point.
jocka
8/20/08 6:55:12PM

Posted by cowcatcher


Posted by holt8081

what would cote's game plan be, what does he have to do to beat silva



land a huge shot is the gameplan, prayer and walking old ladies across streets to get the old karma up is the training



hahahahah walking old ladies across the street thats hilarious

Now back to the thread, i think that Serra was a bigger underdog but Cote is still a huge underdog thats for sure. In my opinion Cote is more dangerous than Serra was and we all saw what happend. I still pick Silva to win but i will for sure bet a couple thousand of mmaplayground money on Cote just in case. lol
breakdown5
8/20/08 7:02:06PM
Has anyone even seen actual odds from a sportsbook yet? I'm sure that Cote will be a big dog in this but, Serra was a huge underdog in his fight against GSP. They were barely even giving him a punchers chance against GSP.
nickcuc547
8/20/08 7:24:15PM
cote is definitely a bigger ud, serra is a much more talented fighter for his weight class imo.
jiujitsufreak74
8/20/08 8:10:39PM

Posted by nickcuc547

cote is definitely a bigger ud, serra is a much more talented fighter for his weight class imo.



gonna have to disagree with you. where do you rank Cote in the MW division? probably top 20 right? where did you ahve Serra when he first fought GSP? most likely not in the top 20.
nickcuc547
8/20/08 10:52:54PM

Posted by jiujitsufreak74


Posted by nickcuc547

cote is definitely a bigger ud, serra is a much more talented fighter for his weight class imo.



gonna have to disagree with you. where do you rank Cote in the MW division? probably top 20 right? where did you ahve Serra when he first fought GSP? most likely not in the top 20.



true but the ww division is a lot deeper than the mw division. serra is probably my least favorite fighter, but he brings a lot more to the table than cote, serra is a bjj black belt with pretty effective striking. whereas cote is pretty much a one dimensional striker.
jiujitsufreak74
8/20/08 11:09:39PM

Posted by nickcuc547


Posted by jiujitsufreak74


Posted by nickcuc547

cote is definitely a bigger ud, serra is a much more talented fighter for his weight class imo.



gonna have to disagree with you. where do you rank Cote in the MW division? probably top 20 right? where did you ahve Serra when he first fought GSP? most likely not in the top 20.



true but the ww division is a lot deeper than the mw division. serra is probably my least favorite fighter, but he brings a lot more to the table than cote, serra is a bjj black belt with pretty effective striking. whereas cote is pretty much a one dimensional striker.



this is funny because i am in fact a serra fan. now people always throw around his BJJ credentials...but the man doesn't use it offensively. when your main strength is your BJJ, you should actually use it. Serra hasn't submitted anyone in 6 years. Cote is probably right outside the top 10 at MW and he has showed that he has good take down defense and that he can handle a grappler. Cote is on a 5 fight win streak, all over credible names. he has beaten strikers (McFedries), grapplers (Almeida) and well rounded fighters (Jason Day). when Matt Serra fought GSP, he was coming off of TUF 4 with a win over Lytle (barely won). before that he had lost to Karo and averaged 1 fight per year. he was an over the hill fighter getting his bone and no one gave him a chance. Cote is at least up there with the top fighters where as Serra was not at the time.
Pitbull09
8/21/08 1:38:41AM
Cote' earned his shot, Serra didnt really. I would say Cote isnt but at the same time, Silva is better than GSP IMO so idk if that should make him even with Serra.
prozacnation1978
8/21/08 10:29:31AM
very good question

i would have to say maybe even if not more to cote
serra never had a impressive record either, but silva ain't like gsp
he is not taking this fight lightly
i would be shocked if cote drops silva cote won't submit him so i think silva knows is submission game is iffy
he will expose that i think he will submit him like he did hendo. expose the weakness break him down and go for the kill
Boo_Radley21
8/21/08 11:43:11PM
This is actually a tough call. Like people have said Cote has earned it more than Serra did, but Silva is also looking just as impressive as GSP was the first time he fought Serra. Up until then the only guy to beat GSP was Hughes in his prime. That's the only reason I'd give it to Serra really, is the fact that Cote has earned the shot with some good victories over solid guys.
mrkennedy
8/23/08 1:27:23AM

Posted by Rush

As far as picking odds, I think Patrick is a bigger underdog.

However, I feel that in reality he has a better chance of beating Silva than Serra does beating a healthy GSP.

I personally go with the latter so I voted "no".



agree
RandyCouture
8/23/08 1:32:37AM
Bigger underdog for sure but for betting no. Matt Serra was the reason by betting websites don't have too many -800 guys anymore. If you look big underdogs are are around +400 and favs are like -550. Before guys would be -1500 or +800 you dont see too much of that anymore. I bet 20 dollars on the serra fight and took home 120 that night. After that fight betting in mma changed alot no more huge underdogs or huge favorites. Sucks for us no more big pay outs on huge underdogs.
koolaidx
8/24/08 3:51:06PM
Serra was a much bigger underdog. Cote has a heavy right hand and is known for his knockout power. He could catch Silva although I'm not betting on that to happen any time soon.
Taylor8766
8/25/08 1:56:50PM
talk about even eh!
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