Clay Guida: Don't be surprised to see me knockout Gray Maynard at UFC on FX 4
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Clay Guida: Don't be surprised to see me knockout Gray Maynard at UFC on FX 4
prophecy033
6/14/12 1:19:40AM
Like they say in the commercials for the New York Lotto: Hey, you never know.
Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) has asked two of its best lightweight wrestlers, Gray Maynard vs. Clay Guida, to headline its upcoming UFC on FX 4 event scheduled for the Revel Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey on June 22, 2012.
And with 17 decision wins between them, a knockout or technical knockout (TKO) finish would probably come as a surprise to most mixed martial arts (MMA) fans.
It wouldn't surprise Guida, however, as he tells Low Kick that he's "fixed the holes in his wrestling game," which suggests this fight could play out on its feet. Where does that leave "The Carpenter" if he pulls it off?
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Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) has asked two of its best lightweight wrestlers, Gray Maynard vs. Clay Guida, to headline its upcoming UFC on FX 4 event scheduled for the Revel Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey on June 22, 2012.
And with 17 decision wins between them, a knockout or technical knockout (TKO) finish would probably come as a surprise to most mixed martial arts (MMA) fans.
It wouldn't surprise Guida, however, as he tells Low Kick that he's "fixed the holes in his wrestling game," which suggests this fight could play out on its feet. Where does that leave "The Carpenter" if he pulls it off?
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george112
6/14/12 1:23:12AM
Those are some pretty big words.
Would actually like to see him back them up.
BUT I see Gray getting the UD
Would actually like to see him back them up.
BUT I see Gray getting the UD
prophecy033
6/14/12 1:26:11AM
Althought i see Clay putting up his usual spirited effort, Gray should be able to control the fight and get the UD win. It's actually is a pretty interesting fight
Twenty20Dollars
6/14/12 1:26:31AM
I could see it.
Originally I thought Gray UD, but then remembered it was 5 rounds and I'm starting to think Guida.
Originally I thought Gray UD, but then remembered it was 5 rounds and I'm starting to think Guida.
george112
6/14/12 1:31:35AM
Posted by Twenty20Dollars
I could see it.
Originally I thought Gray UD, but then remembered it was 5 rounds and I'm starting to think Guida.
Really!!?
In what fashion?
Gray imo is superior at pretty much everything
Twenty20Dollars
6/14/12 3:08:31AM
Posted by george112
Posted by Twenty20Dollars
I could see it.
Originally I thought Gray UD, but then remembered it was 5 rounds and I'm starting to think Guida.
Really!!?
In what fashion?
Gray imo is superior at pretty much everything
Not in submissions or conditioning
BigBadAl
6/14/12 6:10:12AM
Posted by Twenty20Dollars
Posted by george112
Posted by Twenty20Dollars
I could see it.
Originally I thought Gray UD, but then remembered it was 5 rounds and I'm starting to think Guida.
Really!!?
In what fashion?
Gray imo is superior at pretty much everything
Not in submissions or conditioning
airkerma
6/14/12 7:47:41AM
Id also like to give guida an advantage in the standup departent. If he returns to his jungle japes roots like he did with gomi, i think he can be succesful in keeping gray guessing and missing. He just needs to keep the high kicks to a minimum or he'll be butt scooting to the cage all night.
gartface
6/14/12 9:54:04AM
Posted by BigBadAl
Posted by Twenty20Dollars
Posted by george112
Posted by Twenty20Dollars
I could see it.
Originally I thought Gray UD, but then remembered it was 5 rounds and I'm starting to think Guida.
Really!!?
In what fashion?
Gray imo is superior at pretty much everything
Not in submissions or conditioning
Add another in the agreement department.
BS8
6/14/12 10:36:11AM
Coming from a guy who has KO'd 1 guy in the ufc, that made me laugh. Guida has no chance of KO Maynard.
I won't be surprised if this is the most boring fight of all time.
Maynard UD for sure
I won't be surprised if this is the most boring fight of all time.
Maynard UD for sure
FastKnockout
6/14/12 10:53:59AM
Posted by BS8
Coming from a guy who has KO'd 1 guy in the ufc, that made me laugh. Guida has no chance of KO Maynard.
I won't be surprised if this is the most boring fight of all time.
Maynard UD for sure
People said the same thing about Frankie. No way Edgar would knockout Maynard, right? You just never know.
As for conditioning, I'd give the edge to Guida, but Maynard isn't a fish out of water in the later rounds. In his first fight with Edgar he lost a good amount of energy in the first round but even in the 5th round I didn't consider him gassed. Tired, of course. Gassed, no. Funny thing is, Maynard is the one whose been past three rounds. Don't think Guida has.
Twenty20Dollars
6/14/12 11:44:44AM
Guida might also have the adv standing and he will have the speed adv and does have some wrestling/grappling to hang.
frizzzlecake
6/14/12 12:22:41PM
Kpro
6/14/12 12:23:53PM
I still don't understand how Clay and Jason Guida came from the same gene pool.
sparky
6/14/12 12:30:09PM
If there is a knockout in this fight I kind of got this feeling Clay will be the one knocked out.
I personally think that Gray should take the decision but anything is possible.
I personally think that Gray should take the decision but anything is possible.
KungFuMaster
6/14/12 12:32:45PM
I believe Guida. He is man of integrity and what he says, he will do.
Guida by Gorilla Warfare.
Guida by Gorilla Warfare.
Kpro
6/14/12 12:35:30PM
I agree, I just switched to Guida 1TKO.
KungFuMaster
6/14/12 12:52:22PM
Posted by Kpro
I agree, I just switched to Guida 1TKO.
lol
Guida is the man of cardio. In-fact, the words Guida and cardio are interchangeable.
" I could have won but I didn't have enough guida."
Seriously, I think Guida is going to out-cardio Maynard. You and I have both seen many fights whereby cardio was the determining factor.
Guida by late stoppage due to Gorilla Warfare.
K4RP3NT3R
6/14/12 1:03:07PM
Arguing that Guida has the advantage in conditioning is justified but pointless for two reasons.
Number One: Maynard has already shown conditioning is not a problem by competing in the championship rounds more than once. In both Edgar fights, Maynard expended large amounts of energy attempting to finish Edgar and still appeared composed in the later rounds.
Number Two: Guida's fast pace and conditioning may wear out any opponent assuming he is the one dictating the pace of the fight. I do believe Maynard has the better standup, footwork, and wrestling which most assuredly will allow him to dictate the pace.
One last thing: Guida has speed, but unless his striking has changed considerably, his attack is still simple and will be ineffective against Maynard. His shorter reach almost always render his combinations useless.
Number One: Maynard has already shown conditioning is not a problem by competing in the championship rounds more than once. In both Edgar fights, Maynard expended large amounts of energy attempting to finish Edgar and still appeared composed in the later rounds.
Number Two: Guida's fast pace and conditioning may wear out any opponent assuming he is the one dictating the pace of the fight. I do believe Maynard has the better standup, footwork, and wrestling which most assuredly will allow him to dictate the pace.
One last thing: Guida has speed, but unless his striking has changed considerably, his attack is still simple and will be ineffective against Maynard. His shorter reach almost always render his combinations useless.
KungFuMaster
6/14/12 1:13:43PM
Posted by K4RP3NT3R
Arguing that Guida has the advantage in conditioning is justified but pointless for two reasons.
Number One: Maynard has already shown conditioning is not a problem by competing in the championship rounds more than once. In both Edgar fights, Maynard expended large amounts of energy attempting to finish Edgar and still appeared composed in the later rounds.
Number Two: Guida's fast pace and conditioning may wear out any opponent assuming he is the one dictating the pace of the fight. I do believe Maynard has the better standup, footwork, and wrestling which most assuredly will allow him to dictate the pace.
One last thing: Guida has speed, but unless his striking has changed considerably, his attack is still simple and will be ineffective against Maynard. His shorter reach almost always render his combinations useless.
That is one way to look at it.
Here's the other.
Guida is going to shadow box a lot like he usually does. He's going to eat a handful of shots like he usually does....but he is still going to keep coming and pressuring. And in the championship rounds, Maynard is going to pretend he's not tired but we know he will be. This is when Guida can take advantage and secure take downs for gnp - followed by a tko or submission.
george112
6/14/12 1:34:21PM
Well with so many people on board Guidas bandwagon it kind of baffles me
Sticking with Maynard UD
Sticking with Maynard UD
KungFuMaster
6/14/12 1:34:44PM
Furthermore, the two fights with Edgar were not THAT demanding on Maynard's body. It was mostly a stand up affair for those two fights.
As mma fans, we know a grueling grappling match is far more demanding on the body than a grueling stand up affair. Guida will most likely not be able to take Maynard down in the opening rounds but rest assure - if it goes into the championship rounds, Guida can and will.
Let me remind you of the James Thompson vs Kazuyuki Fujita fight. Both men were exhausted but the fighter who had just a little more than his opponent prevailed and that was Fujita.
It only takes a little more than what your opponent has - to dominate him when both of you are exhausted.
As mma fans, we know a grueling grappling match is far more demanding on the body than a grueling stand up affair. Guida will most likely not be able to take Maynard down in the opening rounds but rest assure - if it goes into the championship rounds, Guida can and will.
Let me remind you of the James Thompson vs Kazuyuki Fujita fight. Both men were exhausted but the fighter who had just a little more than his opponent prevailed and that was Fujita.
It only takes a little more than what your opponent has - to dominate him when both of you are exhausted.
KungFuMaster
6/14/12 1:37:02PM
Posted by george112
Well with so many people on board Guidas bandwagon it kind of baffles me
Sticking with Maynard UD
The guida is weak in this one.
Adrenaline
6/14/12 1:38:49PM
Posted by KungFuMaster
Guida is the man of cardio. In-fact, the words Guida and cardio are interchangeable.
" I could have won but I didn't have enough guida."
Seriously, I think Guida is going to out-cardio Maynard. You and I have both seen many fights whereby cardio was the determining factor.
Guida by late stoppage due to Gorilla Warfare.
Gorilla Warfare describes Guida perfectly, excellent post KFM. I don't know that Guida will stop Maynard but the caveman is the last guy you want to take into deep waters if your cardio is not up to par. Although it was a solid post buy the guy above saying that he felt Maynards cardio held up in championship rounds, I have to disagree, its my opinion that he faded significantly in the 2nd fight and was on his way there in the 3rd before getting stopped. Although I will give Maynard credit, he did appear to be in better shape for #3.Gray is a tough matchup for Guida either way you look at it, he has the wrestling to neutralize Guida and he has good standup with some real power when he connects. The Guida fanboy in me would love to see a quick finish but realistically I would say that Gray will control a close fight early and Guida will surge in the later rounds and we will have an exciting and close decision.
But I'm all for The Carpenter knocking Gray out
george112
6/14/12 1:40:39PM
Posted by KungFuMaster
Posted by george112
Well with so many people on board Guidas bandwagon it kind of baffles me
Sticking with Maynard UD
The guida is weak in this one.
Haha
I'm a fan of his and WANT him to win just don't think he is.
The whole first half of my picks career was almost soley based on who I felt would win according to fanship.
I never did anygood
K4RP3NT3R
6/14/12 1:41:54PM
Posted by KungFuMaster
That is one way to look at it.
Here's the other.
Guida is going to shadow box a lot like he usually does. He's going to eat a handful of shots like he usually does....but he is still going to keep coming and pressuring. And in the championship rounds, Maynard is going to pretend he's not tired but we know he will be. This is when Guida can take advantage and secure take downs for gnp - followed by a tko or submission.
There is always that possibility. Guida's shadowboxing had better be above par against Maynard's crisp boxing or he will be eating some heavy shots, which is common in a Guida fight. If he can keep the pressure on Maynard, he may wear him down, but I think Maynard's boxing, footwork, and wrestling will allow Maynard to dictate the pace. Either way, it will be an exciting fight.
KungFuMaster
6/14/12 1:45:52PM
Posted by george112
Posted by KungFuMaster
Posted by george112
Well with so many people on board Guidas bandwagon it kind of baffles me
Sticking with Maynard UD
The guida is weak in this one.
Haha
I'm a fan of his and WANT him to win just don't think he is.
The whole first half of my picks career was almost soley based on who I felt would win according to fanship.
I never did anygood
Join my camp and we'll teach you.
I was like that too during my first few seasons. Heck, whom am I kidding? I'm still like that.
Twenty20Dollars
6/14/12 1:46:46PM
I'm saying, Maynard shouldn't be a huge favorite and it won't just be a cake walk for Maynard.
Budgellism
6/14/12 4:08:49PM
I think Maynard's cardio is being highly underrated in this thread.
Manak
6/14/12 5:02:23PM
outside of applying pressure n hoping gas maynard to tko him in the later rounds I can't see him wining. i see it being Maynard by UD. he doesn't offer anything dangerous outside of cardio. everything else gray has seen & beaten.