Chuck Liddell Wants Title Shot After UFC 88

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Twenty20Dollars
8/22/08 8:23:22PM
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Former Ultimate Fighting Championship light heavyweight titleholder Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell takes on undefeated "Sugar" Rashad Evans at UFC 88 at the Phillips Arena in Atlanta. If Liddell wins, he wants an opportunity to regain the title against current champion Forrest Griffin.

Liddell is confident that a win over Evans on Sept. 6 will result in a title shot. "I think it should," he told MMAWeekly.com. "I think I should have a shot at him. I don't see why I wouldn't. Who else sells as much? But I'll fight whoever.

"I think it seems to make sense for (the UFC). But that's not something I concern myself with right now. I've got to get past Rashad before any of that makes any sense."

Fans have shown interest in seeing him against UFC middleweight titleholder Anderson "The Spider" Silva, but Liddell made it clear what fight he wants if he's victorious against Evans. "I want the title shot, of course," said the former champion. "I'd like to get that and everybody else can fall in after that."

Liddell gained the UFC light heavyweight crown by defeating Randy "The Natural" "Couture at UFC 52 in April of 2005 and held the belt for more than two years. He defended the title four times before being dethroned by Quinton "Rampage" Jackson at UFC 71.
Twenty20Dollars
8/22/08 8:27:43PM
Chucky is going to get a shot at the title. If he beats rashad and even if machida beats thiago silva, the next title shot is going to chuck. One because forrest vs chuck can sell way better than machida vs forrest. Chuck and forrest were both on TUF 1, student vs coach.
juanez13
8/22/08 8:33:48PM
As long as he wins, he'll get it.
Aether
8/22/08 8:33:58PM
Yeah, I don't see anyone else getting a shot before him if he wins this fight. I think Machida is starting to realize he needs to pick the pace up and finish fights because the UFC really isn't going to want to have him as champion with his style.
nickcuc547
8/22/08 8:48:49PM
if machida wins chuck doesn't deserve the shot, but he will get it anyways.
casey64
8/22/08 8:50:21PM
He will get it.
Mchubb316
8/22/08 10:17:02PM
Dana will give it to him if he wins. It sucks for Machida. If he beats T. Silva and still has to wait in line for a title shot after Chuck. I think this could be bad. He more than deserves it, and people would like to see it. If this does happen, Machida better get the winner of Chuck vs Forrest a.s.a.p.
prozacnation1978
8/22/08 10:57:43PM
i think machida should get next shot but he will get the okami screw special instead chuck does have senority and dana's ass in his pocket so get your title back and then face machida buddy!!!!!!!!!
IriShame
8/22/08 11:29:10PM

Posted by prozacnation1978

i think machida should get next shot but he will get the okami screw special instead chuck does have senority and dana's ass in his pocket so get your title back and then face machida buddy!!!!!!!!!



I don't think Okami got screwed. I'm pretty sure he was injured. Also, while it is arguable if Chuck deserves a shot after beating Evans it's still going to happen. Chuck vs. Forrest is the big PPV. Money makes the world go round. You know, cash rules everything around me, cream, get the money. Dolla dolla bill ya'll.
MikeyG
8/22/08 11:46:16PM
This is good news that he is being arrogant overlooking Rashad, coming in overconfident seems to work against you. I dont really like either guy but I cant get enough of watching Rampage / Liddell 2 so hopefully its like that. More realistically if Rashad were to win it'd be by GnP like Randy / Liddell 1 or like the Jardine fight, and if he beats Rashad, Forrest will pick him apart anyway. Out with the old and in with the new, it comes with the territory. Chuck will never hold the LH belt again, I hope he moves up if he indeed keeps fighting in the next 2-3 years.
Ordep
8/23/08 2:12:22AM
Machida will lose to Thiago so Chuck will get it anyways
jakeiceman
8/23/08 7:24:01AM
Forrest will "pick" him apart huh??? Ha ha thats pretty funny. I'm a big fan of both but Forrest wont pick him apart. Forrest is a smart fighter yes but even his revamped style is vulnerable to a guy like Liddell. I agree that Liddell better not look past Evans, its just a stupid move and he has killed me by doing it before (Jardine). I hope Chuck and Forrest do fight because it will be a fight that I will actually root for both guys.

This topic has suprised me, I figured there would be more haters flaming Liddell for no odd reason....but I'm guessing its only a matter of time.

I think Machida probably deserves a title shot more than Liddell but I agree with what was said about the UFC not wanting a boring Machida holding the title. Either way its a great time to be an MMA fan especially in the LHW division.

And yes....Liddell will hold the LHW title again....its just a matter of time.
Aether
8/23/08 7:41:15AM

Posted by prozacnation1978

i think machida should get next shot but he will get the okami screw special instead chuck does have senority and dana's ass in his pocket so get your title back and then face machida buddy!!!!!!!!!



Okami got injured... If he were healthy he would be fighting Anderson before Cote. He didn't get screwed at all.

Anyway, sure Machida has a great record, but he still needs to beat a top contender before he should really get a title shot. I think he's definitely close, but I don't think beating Tito and Sokoudjou should send you straight to a title shot. He should still have to face one of the top5 or 6 contenders and get a win before getting a title shot. Neither of those guys are really considered top10, at least not unanimously, and most who would put either of them in the top10 would have to put them at 10th or 9th at best.

I think for a titleshot at LHW you should have to gain a victory over at least one of the following: Rampage, Chuck, Wanderlei, Henderson, Jardine, Evans. I would even say maybe 2 depending on which ones and what kind of performance you put on. (not necessarily that it's exciting, but whether it was close or not) For example I don't think beating Rashad should be enough to send someone to a titleshot, but beating Rashad AND Wanderlei both in impressive fashion would definitely warrant a titleshot more than beating Tito and Sokoudjou would.

I don't think it's about how many wins you string together as much as it is about who you get your wins against and how impressively you get them. I actually think that Chuck deserves the shot more than Lyoto. We also traditionally give defeated champions a shot to get their title back if they string a couple of wins together against top10 competition, which is what chuck will have done if he wins.
RMFG_187
8/23/08 7:54:02AM
why shouldnt Chuck get a shot? He just beat Wandy, and if he beats Rashad, hes gotta have it. Machida recently has beaten Sokodjou (overrated) and Tito. Tito was a good win, but Chuck beating Wandy was bigger.

Although I think Chuck is the one that can stop Forrest, Forrest by KO round 3

If its Machida vs Forrest, I got Forrest Round 5 decision, that shoulda been a 5K run after Machida.
RMFG_187
8/23/08 7:55:01AM

Posted by Aether


Posted by prozacnation1978

i think machida should get next shot but he will get the okami screw special instead chuck does have senority and dana's ass in his pocket so get your title back and then face machida buddy!!!!!!!!!



Okami got injured... If he were healthy he would be fighting Anderson before Cote. He didn't get screwed at all.

Anyway, sure Machida has a great record, but he still needs to beat a top contender before he should really get a title shot. I think he's definitely close, but I don't think beating Tito and Sokoudjou should send you straight to a title shot. He should still have to face one of the top5 or 6 contenders and get a win before getting a title shot. Neither of those guys are really considered top10, at least not unanimously, and most who would put either of them in the top10 would have to put them at 10th or 9th at best.

I think for a titleshot at LHW you should have to gain a victory over at least one of the following: Rampage, Chuck, Wanderlei, Henderson, Jardine, Evans. I would even say maybe 2 depending on which ones and what kind of performance you put on. (not necessarily that it's exciting, but whether it was close or not) For example I don't think beating Rashad should be enough to send someone to a titleshot, but beating Rashad AND Wanderlei both in impressive fashion would definitely warrant a titleshot more than beating Tito and Sokoudjou would.

I don't think it's about how many wins you string together as much as it is about who you get your wins against and how impressively you get them. I actually think that Chuck deserves the shot more than Lyoto. We also traditionally give defeated champions a shot to get their title back if they string a couple of wins together against top10 competition, which is what chuck will have done if he wins.



should've just quoted u, im wit ya 100%
motorboatensob
8/23/08 9:58:30AM
I'm so tired of people saying Machida is getting the shaft if he wants a title shot start finishing fights and fight a top ten guy. Hell Chuck or any one else could be undefeated if they fought the guys Machida has. Only in his last two fights has he fought any body worth talking about and they still are not top ten guy. Face it Machida is just starting to work his way up the ladder if he keeps it up he should get a shot. After the Thiago fight who still isn't a top ten guy he needs to fight maybe Wandy or Rampage even Rashad then he can talk about a title shot. Chuck is the only one that makes since to be next if he wins. He will have beaten two top ten guys while everyone else has just lost.
tdietel01
8/23/08 11:29:18AM
what happens if they both lose? would rashaad get the shot? I would love to see the spider fight forrest.
Blizzard
8/23/08 12:29:25PM
The winner of Machida and Silva should get it.
jocka
8/23/08 12:44:12PM
I don't think that either Silave or Machida should get a tittle fight without getting throught another top 5 opponent. either way chuck had the title for a while plus he is one exciting fighter and he is one of the most known mma fighter so for sure he is getting the tittle shot if he beats rashad
sparky
8/23/08 5:13:12PM
I hope that Chuck does get a title shot if he beats Rashad. Im a huge Iceman fan and want to see him the champ again more then anything else. I think Chuck will beat Rashad by KO-TKO, but u can never count out anybody.

Looking forward to UFC 88 period solid fightcard!!!
jakeiceman
8/23/08 5:29:07PM
Alot support for Chuck I love it!
MikeyG
8/23/08 6:43:35PM

Posted by jakeiceman

And yes....Liddell will hold the LHW title again....its just a matter of time.



This division is too stacked and he is already looking past Rashad, hes already ducked Machida a fight in which he would lose (but then again Forrest ducked him too). MMAth works for this particular situation, Forrest > Rampage > Chuck. Forrest is a terrible matchup for Chuck, Chuck wants you to be aggressive and whenever Chuck is aggressive he leaves openings for better strikers. Forrest has more fluid movements and has more technical standup, Chuck is Dana's homeboy so if he beats Rashad hes getting the next shot but fighting Forrest is an uphill battle for Chuck. I'll admit back in the day Chuck was my favorite UFC fighter but watching his last couple fights leads me to believe hes just not where he used to be and all the competition isnt what it used to be (anthoer example Matt Hughes) all this new blood coming in is going too much for him, he has made his career beating wrestlers with so/so standup. But good luck to him he needs it.
Aether
8/23/08 7:21:50PM
"I think it seems to make sense for (the UFC). But that's not something I concern myself with right now. I've got to get past Rashad before any of that makes any sense."

Yeah... pretty arrogant. Definitely looking right past Rashad. When you read something you seem to basically just invent your own version of what it says and then get upset or indignant about it. You also claimed I said about 10 things I didn't say in that Henderson thread. You should take the time to read what you're arguing against and understand it before you start arguing.

MikeyG
8/23/08 8:40:42PM

Posted by Aether

"I think it seems to make sense for (the UFC). But that's not something I concern myself with right now. I've got to get past Rashad before any of that makes any sense."

Yeah... pretty arrogant. Definitely looking right past Rashad. When you read something you seem to basically just invent your own version of what it says and then get upset or indignant about it. You also claimed I said about 10 things I didn't say in that Henderson thread. You should take the time to read what you're arguing against and understand it before you start arguing.




You trashed my post told me I was wrong and inflammatory when you were speculating as well, theres no anger here buddy, go find a punching bag, this keyboard warring is pointless.
Aether
8/24/08 7:33:32AM
That's exactly my point. I didn't call your post inflammatory, nor did I "trash it" I stated a different point of view and you made up a bunch of nonsense that I didn't say. Feel free to copy paste me calling your post inflammatory if you want. That isn't what I said, you simply lack reading comprehension.
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