Posted by prophecy033
Im going in tomorrow to get my concealed carry. I want to be a person that can help prevent this or at least help in stopoing the guy from killing more. I just want to know that I can protect those I love and care for.
That's a very rare and noble reaction to the massacre, Prophecy. Having a concealed carry permit is a honor that should not be taken lightly. There are a lot of considerations that you need to run through your mind. It's far from just displaying the capability of putting holes in paper.
Those who know me best know that I take a gun EVERYWHERE I go. Thankfully, given my profession, I've got some latitude when it comes to carrying concealed in otherwise restricted areas. But I personally would never be able to live with myself if I were caught in a deadly force situation where I could not have a positive impact on the outcome because I wasn't carrying the tools necessary to do so. I can't imagine allowing a loved-one or even a complete stranger be hurt or killed by the will of another and not intervening.
Posted by KungFuMaster
Being a parent, hearing things like this makes me paranoid - and I'm already an overly protective father to begin with..
If you want to be protective, arm your children with the realization that this can happen anywhere at any time. Don't shelter them from the facts. Prepare them for what to do when they may be faced with the moment of truth. It's a damn hard discussion for most parents to have (because frankly, most parents themselves aren't prepared for when the wolf is at the door).
I got done with work at 3 pm today. I live quite literally right across the street from our local K-12 public school. As soon as my 8 year old walked in the door this afternoon we talked about what had happened. I did not shy away from any of the known facts. I've spent time with my daughter teaching her warning signs of danger and dangerous people. We've discussed what to do if she's ever taken against her will. We've talked about what to do if there's a gunman in the school.
There's three simple rules to enact when faced with an active shooter scenario. Run, Hide, Fight. If you search that phrase you'll see plenty of decent explanation regarding the methodology. But it's not something that is trained in the event of an active school shooter. This is mostly because the school needs to be accountable for their students during the day, so they can't just open the doors and tell everyone to run like hell.
My daughter knows that if she's faced with the potential of a deadly threat in school, and she can get to an exit safely, she runs straight to my parents' house three blocks away (my home is not a safe place given the close proximity and a potential target given the squad car that sits outside). She runs between houses and not down the street. She knows not to look back and not to wait for anyone. She also knows that no matter what reaction she gets from the school in the aftermath, she will have my 100% support for her decision.
She further knows that if she cannot run, she needs to hide. Not in the corner, no under a desk. But HIDE for fuck sake. cabinets, lockers, in closets behind coats. Hide and don't make a sound- no matter what chaos is going on around her. Hide and not move or say anything until police have found her.
Lastly. If neither of the above are an option my daughter will fight for her life. As scary as that sounds, she knows that curling up in a ball and hoping for the best is not going to save her. She knows that her dad would never let someone take his life without a fight, and she'll never let it happen to her either. Now, I'm well aware that at her age she'd never survive a physical struggle with someone even 5 years older than her. But it's a survival mindset that will be so ingrained into her consciousness that if she's ever faced with a life/death situation down the road, instinct will takeover where fear and doubt cripple most others.
My son starts kindergarten next fall. I know the rules will be a bit different for him. He's not going to have as keen a sense of his surroundings or the requisite speed to safely reach my parents home. His life is going to be in the hands of the school faculty until he's old enough and fast enough to run. He'll be every bit as vulnerable as those poor children who had their lives snuffed out today by that senseless murderer.
We had a School Resource Officer for a few years but the position was cut several years ago do to budget reasons. For my son's sake, I hope this is reconsidered before the start of next school year. I firmly believe that it should be mandated that every school district have an armed police officer on site. We need to make our schools "hardened targets" and less desirable to those who hope to spread terror and destruction.