Charles Oliveira signs new four-fight deal with UFC

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grappler0000
8/20/11 11:18:17AM
Despite an official two-fight losing streak in the octagon, Charles Oliviera (14-2 MMA, 2-2 UFC) will remain on the UFC roster.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today learned from sources close to the promotion that "do Bronx" has been tendered a new four-fight deal.

Oliveira has verbally accepted the offer, and the new deal is expected to be finalized next week.

Oliveira most recently competed at UFC on Versus 5, where he was felled by a devastating Donald Cerrone bodyshot and lost via first-round TKO...


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Twenty20Dollars
8/20/11 12:45:49PM
Now, I'm just hoping he goes to 145.
Chael_Sonnen
8/20/11 1:22:11PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Now, I'm just hoping he goes to 145.



He needs to.....probably doesn't even cut any weight at 155....and it shows.
hashyandy4
8/20/11 1:33:35PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Now, I'm just hoping he goes to 145.


Totally agree would love 2 see do Bronx at 145
kingsmasher
8/20/11 2:58:06PM
Yeah he has no chance at 155...way too small and zero wreslting he would be able to crack the top 6...
FastKnockout
8/20/11 2:58:11PM
Sometimes it's better to fight at your natural weight. Cutting weight may give you a size advantage against certain fighters, but it also comes with a cost. Oliviera has only lost twice (not including the DQ) and it was at the hands of Miller and Cerrone, who are near the top of the division. He should have a few more fights at Lightweight with some lower level guys before making a decision to move down.
Twenty20Dollars
8/20/11 3:02:11PM
But I don't see Charles having a chance with those bigger top guys in the UFC.

Could you imagine Charles vs Tibau.
Kpro
8/21/11 1:37:19AM
But remember last month when he was the right size for 155 and was ready to roll through the division after his dominant performance against the deceptively strong wrestler, Lentz? Not to mention his camp doesn't even know if he can drop a division to 145. Oh, but he lost to Cerrone, so he must be a 145'er. Probably a 135'er if he loses again. Come on. Enough with the weight division questions every single time a guy loses a fight. This sport is dynamic and that's why we love it. He could beat some 170'ers and lose to some 145'ers. That's MMA. Fight where you're comfortable.
kingsmasher
8/21/11 10:52:43AM

Posted by Kpro

But remember last month when he was the right size for 155 and was ready to roll through the division after his dominant performance against the deceptively strong wrestler, Lentz? Not to mention his camp doesn't even know if he can drop a division to 145. Oh, but he lost to Cerrone, so he must be a 145'er. Probably a 135'er if he loses again. Come on. Enough with the weight division questions every single time a guy loses a fight. This sport is dynamic and that's why we love it. He could beat some 170'ers and lose to some 145'ers. That's MMA. Fight where you're comfortable.



Well him beating Lentz is because Lentz is pretty green in an overall game and Oli rocked him early but Lentz was strong enough to not get subbed....he ate some knees and that was it...but lets be honest here Jim Miller does not have better BJJ than Oli but is stronger and that is why Miller got the leg lock sub before Oli when Oli had attempted first..

That should tell a fighter that hes not strong enouhg for the division...which in this case very true...as much as i like Oli I would never bet on him again in th eLW division...And think of this...would he come close to beating a guy like Edgar Maynard...No way so move to another class...Actually if he could be at 135 him and Cruz would be the greatest fight I think...
Kpro
8/21/11 11:20:35AM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by Kpro

But remember last month when he was the right size for 155 and was ready to roll through the division after his dominant performance against the deceptively strong wrestler, Lentz? Not to mention his camp doesn't even know if he can drop a division to 145. Oh, but he lost to Cerrone, so he must be a 145'er. Probably a 135'er if he loses again. Come on. Enough with the weight division questions every single time a guy loses a fight. This sport is dynamic and that's why we love it. He could beat some 170'ers and lose to some 145'ers. That's MMA. Fight where you're comfortable.



.would he come close to beating a guy like Edgar Maynard...No way so move to another class...Actually if he could be at 135 him and Cruz would be the greatest fight I think...



Maynard is 32 and Edgar is just about 30. Oliveira is 21 and his camp has already said 'a cut to 145 would be very difficult'. This is a guy that will be in the 170's in 5 years, not 135. I don't agree that if you can't beat the champ, you should cut to the next lowest division. Oliveira is a Lightweight and age will only move him up, not down. I respect your opinion, but completely disagree in this particular case. I think he "could" make 145 and he may try it and could be a beast there but I don't know that he "should". His "walk around weight" is 165, the same as Frankie Edgar's. I just think he needs more training and battles under his belt, not a division change. Dude can barely go to a bar in the US.
Cooler
8/21/11 8:42:51PM

Posted by Chael_Sonnen


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Now, I'm just hoping he goes to 145.



He needs to.....probably doesn't even cut any weight at 155....and it shows.



By outclassing 2/3 of the wrestlers he fought? he may move down to 145 but he certainly doesnt need to, Cerrone dwarfs a lot of lightweights he's 6 feet tall. And if you recall Jim Miller wasnt dominating before the kneebar anyway.
bjj1605
8/21/11 11:01:52PM
I'd go as far as to say he was beating Jim Miller prior to the knee bar.

He's young. He'll probably end up at 155 down the road.

But something tells me that part of the behind the scenes verbal agreement that came with this deal was a promise to cut weight. Comments by Rogan, Kenny, and Bonnar made it very clear that the UFC wants him to cut.

Getting a four-fight deal after losing four straight is a pretty good guarantee that he decided to be a company man.
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