Chael Sonnen's (Possibly Fake) Twitter Not Helping Political Ambitions

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emfleek
6/11/10 8:35:44AM
The rash of alleged Twitter identity thefts continues in the MMA world, or so we are told.

The latest supposed victim is top UFC middleweight contender and current Republican nominee for Oregon State Representative Chael Sonnen, who's taking heat in an article today on the Huffington Post for remarks on a Twitter account that purports to be his.

The complicating factor – and this is where the story starts to sound familiar to anyone who followed the Jamie Yager saga last week – is that Sonnen has, according to the Huffington Post, called the account (Twitter.com/sonnench) a fake after he was contacted by reporters about some off-color comments that appear on the page.

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emfleek
6/11/10 8:41:04AM

Update: In this interview with MMA Fighting's own Ariel Helwani (skip to the 45:40 mark), Sonnen identifies @sonnench as his personal Twitter account. So, case closed on that debate.
Jackelope
6/11/10 10:04:19AM
LOL I wondered when this crap would get him in trouble with his political aspirations.

I know everyone is loving Chael and all. But since when was he this guy? That's what I've been thinking the whole time. I think he's just trying to cash in and make his money while he's on a run. Because as much as Chael was a bit of a macho tough guy for the last couple of years he was never like this.
grappler0000
6/11/10 11:11:52AM
That and he got comfortable being that guy way too quickly, which never pans out in the long run.
Giant_Ochai
6/11/10 11:18:44AM
He's not a big enough scumbag to make it in politics.
Gogoplatapus
6/11/10 12:00:55PM
Well the one where he says something like 'Ed and his gang of savages' was pure racism if you ask me.

But if he's going to start lying about things, it should fast track him into office, no?
jay98107
6/11/10 6:36:48PM

Posted by Giant_Ochai

He's not a big enough scumbag to make it in politics.


He is a big enough douche bag though.
WheelchairBandit
6/11/10 10:14:20PM

Posted by Gogoplatapus

Well the one where he says something like 'Ed and his gang of savages' was pure racism if you ask me.



Savage
-noun
1. an uncivilized human being.
2. a fierce, brutal, or cruel person.
3. a rude, boorish person.
4. a member of a preliterate society.

Please explain how Sonnen calling someone a "savage" is racist?A savage can be anyone of any race.It doesn't apply to race,but to behavior.He could have just as easily been talking about Brock Lesnar.

Brian.
Jackelope
6/11/10 10:17:32PM

Posted by WheelchairBandit


Posted by Gogoplatapus

Well the one where he says something like 'Ed and his gang of savages' was pure racism if you ask me.



Savage
-noun
1. an uncivilized human being.
2. a fierce, brutal, or cruel person.
3. a rude, boorish person.
4. a member of a preliterate society.

Please explain how Sonnen calling someone a "savage" is racist?A savage can be anyone of any race.It doesn't apply to race,but to behavior.He could have just as easily been talking about Brock Lesnar.

Brian.



4. a member of a preliterate society.

Calling a Brazilian a member of a preliterate society couldn't be interpreted as racism by Brazilians?
WheelchairBandit
6/11/10 10:21:48PM
Slamming someone's reading skills isn't exactly racism,and considering how well spoken and smart the Black House guys are,I don't think it's going to hurt their feelers none.

But it IS an insult after all.Come on guys,you're analyzing trash talk here and trying to pick it apart for a "gotcha!" moment.These are insults meant to try to hurt someones feelings for cryin out loud.That's the whole point of trash talking.Lighten up people!

Brian.
Jackelope
6/11/10 11:33:01PM

Posted by WheelchairBandit

Slamming someone's reading skills isn't exactly racism,and considering how well spoken and smart the Black House guys are,I don't think it's going to hurt their feelers none.

But it IS an insult after all.Come on guys,you're analyzing trash talk here and trying to pick it apart for a "gotcha!" moment.These are insults meant to try to hurt someones feelings for cryin out loud.That's the whole point of trash talking.Lighten up people!

Brian.



I don't think anybody was nit picking his comments necessarily. More like responding to the article and how it's hurting his political ambitions. I could care less what Chael uses for trash talk in regards to MMA. The more the merrier. (Granted I do find it ironic he only just now in his career stepped it up this much).

Obviously I'd prefer it to stay away from any racial attacks or slurs but I'm not his keeper so he can do whatever he wants. However stupid it makes him sound.

Anyways though if that's the case then you might as well give the President a pass for calling a Mexican a savage or something. Ultimately isn't it the same thing? Don't you think the hispanic community (or any community really) would be in an uproar if a well known political figure called a member of their home nation a "savage"?

Chael chose to be a politician so as far as I'm concerned he can deal with the criticism for his ignorant comments. Speaking from a purely political perspective the comments were dumb at best. From an MMA standpoint- who cares?
WheelchairBandit
6/11/10 11:50:01PM
The Huntington Post is nitpicking his comments,trying to make politcial hay out of pro wrestling-esque statements.They're totally forgetting that this is Sonnen's day job,and what he's doing is no different than what a ton of other MMA fighters do to hype a fight.That doesn't mean he would be unfit to be a politican.The Huffington Post is doing it because Sonnen is a Republican,and they are a left leaning blog that generally tries to shoot down as many right wingers as possible.Sonnen was an easy target.If he was a Democrat,they wouldn't care.

And this is completley different than Barack Obama calling someone a savage.Obama doesn't compete as a prize fighter in his spare time,and is not expected to promote a fight.

Chael Sonnen deals in hype and hyperbole.None of what he says is serious.It's meant to hype and sell a fight,and get people interested.Trying to bring down a man's political career because of it is taking MMA fandom a bit too far.

Brian.
crushedbacon
6/11/10 11:53:38PM

Posted by WheelchairBandit

[
Savage
-noun
1. an uncivilized human being.
2. a fierce, brutal, or cruel person.
3. a rude, boorish person.
4. a member of a preliterate society.

Please explain how Sonnen calling someone a "savage" is racist?A savage can be anyone of any race.It doesn't apply to race,but to behavior.He could have just as easily been talking about Brock Lesnar.

Brian.



Actually the term 'savage' isn't strictly applied to just describing someones behavior. It can be used as an adjective and yes this is when someone would typically describing a behavior. But......it can also be used as a noun, and thats where I can see people would have an issue with this Chael's statement.
Gogoplatapus
6/11/10 11:57:48PM

Posted by WheelchairBandit


Posted by Gogoplatapus

Well the one where he says something like 'Ed and his gang of savages' was pure racism if you ask me.



Savage
-noun
1. an uncivilized human being.
2. a fierce, brutal, or cruel person.
3. a rude, boorish person.
4. a member of a preliterate society.

Please explain how Sonnen calling someone a "savage" is racist?A savage can be anyone of any race.It doesn't apply to race,but to behavior.He could have just as easily been talking about Brock Lesnar.

Brian.



So if they were from Africa and he called them spearchuckers you would be OK with that too? Come on man, pure racism in the term savage. A lot of people in Canada do not appreciate being called savages, I'm sure South Americans don't either.

ncordless
6/12/10 12:05:32AM

Posted by WheelchairBandit

The Huntington Post is nitpicking his comments,trying to make politcial hay out of pro wrestling-esque statements.They're totally forgetting that this is Sonnen's day job,and what he's doing is no different than what a ton of other MMA fighters do to hype a fight.That doesn't mean he would be unfit to be a politican.The Huffington Post is doing it because Sonnen is a Republican,and they are a left leaning blog that generally tries to shoot down as many right wingers as possible.Sonnen was an easy target.If he was a Democrat,they wouldn't care.

And this is completley different than Barack Obama calling someone a savage.Obama doesn't compete as a prize fighter in his spare time,and is not expected to promote a fight.

Chael Sonnen deals in hype and hyperbole.None of what he says is serious.It's meant to hype and sell a fight,and get people interested.Trying to bring down a man's political career because of it is taking MMA fandom a bit too far.

Brian.



Problem with that is Sonnen is trying to be both. What works in politics and prowrestling is way different.

If Sonnen wants to be a politician, then he better be ready for all his comments to be nitpicked. That's just par for the course. Also, since when does what a politician do in his day job not matter? Politicians are picked apart in every facet of their lives, including their job, family, sex life, and everything else. The idea that being a fighter exempts him in a way that other politicians like Obama are not is laughable.
WheelchairBandit
6/12/10 12:10:11AM

Posted by ncordless

Problem with that is Sonnen is trying to be both. What works in politics and prowrestling is way different.

If Sonnen wants to be a politician, then he better be ready for all his comments to be nitpicked. That's just par for the course. Also, since when does what a politician do in his day job not matter? Politicians are picked apart in every facet of their lives, including their job, family, sex life, and everything else. The idea that being a fighter exempts him in a way that other politicians like Obama are not is laughable.



Did the press go through everything Jessie Ventura ever said on the mike?

Brian.
WheelchairBandit
6/12/10 12:15:10AM

Posted by Gogoplatapus

So if they were from Africa and he called them spearchuckers you would be OK with that too? Come on man, pure racism in the term savage. A lot of people in Canada do not appreciate being called savages, I'm sure South Americans don't either.




Does anyone apprechiate being called a savage?No-that's why it's a good insult.This is trash talking,after all,and the whole point is to be annoying and get under your opponents skin.

But pure racism?No.I think you're taking a GIANT leap there my friend.And considering none of those guys even bare a passing resemblance to savages (outside of their actions in the cage,at least),then what's the worry about?No one is going to mistake Anderson Silva for The Missing Link.

Brian.
ncordless
6/12/10 1:15:40AM

Posted by WheelchairBandit


Posted by ncordless

Problem with that is Sonnen is trying to be both. What works in politics and prowrestling is way different.

If Sonnen wants to be a politician, then he better be ready for all his comments to be nitpicked. That's just par for the course. Also, since when does what a politician do in his day job not matter? Politicians are picked apart in every facet of their lives, including their job, family, sex life, and everything else. The idea that being a fighter exempts him in a way that other politicians like Obama are not is laughable.



Did the press go through everything Jessie Ventura ever said on the mike?

Brian.



Jesse Ventura embraced the whole thing in a way that made attacking what he said as a wrestler pointless. jesse ventura for gov

Chael Sonnen is doing everything he can to distance himself from being a fighter, and as a result is vulnerable politically.votesonnen.com

Both Ventura and Sonnen were fair game as much as a lawyer, doctor, or businessperson is. The difference was that it was water on a duck's back to Ventura in Minnesota because he portrayed himself that way.
Jackelope
6/12/10 1:20:45AM
Well I'm sure Chael appreciates you jumping to his defense as much as he doesn't appreciate all of us saying he better watch what he says.

While I think the comparison of MMA to wrestling is ridiculous I have to say that yes, having read Jesse Ventura's book and followed his political career I can say he was absolutely ridiculed and held accountable for his pro wrestling career. It just didn't stop him.

Look dude what you don't seem to be getting is that I'm not PERSONALLY offended by Chael's comments. But you have to agree that if you intend to hold office it's kind of stupid to make off color remarks. Everyone knows how politicians are scrutinized. Do I agree with it? HELL NO. Not in the slightest bit. I think you could cuss up a storm and be a complete asshole in nearly every facet of your life and yet still be a great leader. What I'm saying though is that HE CHOSE to run for office. So he's got to expect some political ramifications for his comments within his MMA career.

I mean are you going to honestly sit there and tell me that someone hasn't tried to use the fact that he's an MMA fighter alone without these comments against him? If so you're delusional. But I think you've got a lot more sense than that.

So for the record- I don't agree with it in any sense whatsoever but I will restate what I did earlier in the thread-


Chael chose to be a politician so as far as I'm concerned he can deal with the criticism for his ignorant comments. Speaking from a purely political perspective the comments were dumb at best. From an MMA standpoint- who cares?


And also Barack Obama has been held more than accountable for the things he did before he was ever president so the fact that you don't think the two equate in one way or another is quite a stretch. If it could piss off your constituents you probably don't want to say it. I'm guessing that if Chael Sonnen has any Brazilian constituents (doubtful) or at least sympathizers they will use it against him. And they're perfectly within the realm of accepted political practice to do so. Matter of fact I think the fact that you compared Jesse Ventura's WWF time to Chael's MMA time is quite a bit more of a stretch than is Sonnen being compared to the POTUS.

Local Politician : National Politician
as
WWF Wrestler : MMA Fighter ????????????

Doesn't even make sense.
noahgenda
6/12/10 1:01:06PM
wheelchair, youre totally right. it wasnt purely racist, it was purely xenophobic and maybe 75% racist. come one, you are taking an absolutely ridiculous stand



heres what chael said yesterday

"He has a black belt from the Nogueira brothers, but to me, a black belt from the Nogueira brothers is like a free toy in a Happy Meal. One [of the Nogueira brothers] is a punching bag. The other, I just ignore."



i dont know how any of you can still respect this guy
Naturaldisaster
6/12/10 3:25:55PM
reading the comments that sonnen is always making about other fighters and the comments he just made about GSP i would guarrentee that this is his real twitter and stuff the HE is actually posting
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