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enemyofmany
9/9/07 12:04:06AM
im not sure who the other judge who scored the fight for bisping,but he was the third,and deciding.
Ydoc
9/9/07 1:58:03AM
I don't understand how Peoples judges these fights, unless he's blind and is going by crowd reaction for every fight. That'd actually make a lot of sense. Someone needs to tally the TDs, connected punches, and who was pushing the action and see how the numbers come out. I got a feeling Hamill won on every one of those factors.

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Svartorm
9/9/07 4:33:51AM
I like Cecil Peoples as a judge, but not a ref.

I'm not sure why everyone is claiming Hamill won that fight either.
enemyofmany
9/9/07 8:14:54AM
well than someone explain to me how bisping won.he pssably got rd 2.thats it.
Mhunt1140
9/9/07 1:28:30PM
I don't understand how Bisping won that fight, if anyone can explain that to me I would love to hear you try. I just don't understand how one judge (cecil) scores it 30-27 Hamil and the other 2 score it 29-28 Bisping. You would think there would be some kind of consistency or something, but I guess I'm wrong.
casey64
9/9/07 9:07:34PM
yeah i think that was cecil
tberg420
9/11/07 7:18:30PM

Posted by Mhunt1140

I don't understand how Bisping won that fight, if anyone can explain that to me I would love to hear you try. I just don't understand how one judge (cecil) scores it 30-27 Hamil and the other 2 score it 29-28 Bisping. You would think there would be some kind of consistency or something, but I guess I'm wrong.



You and I wouldn't have the same opinion about that fight either. That's what judges are for. 3 different people who will judge the fight how they see it. The U.S. legal process works the same way with a jury. Different people are going to have different opinions based on what they think happened in that fight. Jeff Mullen broke down the fight as he saw it. We saw camera views that might have blocked other action or other things. The same thing happened in the Tito/Forrest fight. If people didn't hear the commentary then people wouldn't have been influenced with Forrest's missed strikes that were told as they connected. Here's the Jeff Mullen message so maybe you can check it out and understand that it was a close decision but totally one in the favor of Bisping.

I first started judging the UFC in 1996. I have been judging UFC almost twice as long as any other active judge. I am a former kick boxer and have been training grappling for 13 years. I am not here to argue with any of you or tell you that your opinion is wrong. I am only going to tell you why I judged the fight the way I did. Watch the fight again and turn off the sound. Commentary can color what you see.

No doubt Bisping dominated the 1st. He hurt Bisping with a right hand right off the bat and again near the end of the round. He out scored Bisping and busted him up. It was a very impressive round for Hamill but still a 10-9 round. Not dominate enough for a 10-8.

Watch the beginning of the second round closely. When Hamill throws the jab, Bisping slips the punch and hits him with his own counter jab. It is hard to see on camera because Hamill's back is to the camera. His back was also to Goldie who was talking like the beginning of this round was like a continuation of the 1st. If you look you will see that Hamill is facing me giving me a clear view of what is landing.

Bisping was landing the jab again and again and not getting hit. Hamill got 2 takedowns in rounds 2 and 3 but did very little with them. Bisping is using an active guard trying to turn for armbars and sweeps, Hamill is doing very little on top. Bisping is keeping him from scoring or improving his position. In the 3rd round Bisping actually lands more punchesd from the bottom than Hamill does from the top.

In both the 2nd and 3rd rounds Bisping does more scoring. Striking. Under pride style scoring Hamill would have won. He did more damage, but it was all in the 1st round. By 10 point must system Bisping won the fight 2 rounds to 1 . 29-28 Bisping. Sometime the angle you see the fight effects your decision. That is why they put the judges on 3 different sides.

BY THE WAY MARIO YAMASAKI THOUGHT BISPING WON ROUNDS 2 AND 3 ALSO. MARIO WAS THE REF AND HAD A BETTER VIEW THAN ANY OF US. I have never taken a payoff as some of you have suggested and never will.

You may not agree with my decision but please don't question my honesty.
enemyofmany
9/12/07 1:36:20PM
id like to watch the fight again to see.there is more than one camera veiw,so i dont buy the whole "i could see it but you couldnt" thing.
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