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MFOTHER
3/20/08 12:08:02PM
so the GSP serra debate goes on and on , but i havn't read much about how you guys think them facing each other in Canada will have an impact on the fight.
The thing Gsp has begged the ufc for the most (besides a title shot), was a fight in canada.
Now he gets his chance, as a challanger for the belt. For him it must be a dream situation.
But serra has said fighting in canada is ufc history, and he is pumped to be on the min event there. He claims he'd rather fight there than vegas. (maybe he's just trying to make the best of it?)
alot of people in other sports think having home court advantage is huge.....how do you think it impacts fighters?
CornishMMA
3/20/08 1:22:56PM
Good thread dude, i think it will have a HUGE bearing on the outcome, either really good or really bad, having your dream fight in from of hometown fans can either be a blessing or a curse, Swick said there was no way he would lose to Okami in front of his hometown fans, i dont think it had much bearing on the fight but it surely adds pressure, and theres enough of that already imo

Serra should be cool with it, i dont see any Boo Boys bothering him at all
DevonFoxy
3/20/08 1:33:36PM
Yea Cornish pretty much summed it up it can either be the best night of GSP's life of the worst. Everyone gave him a pass on the first Serra fight but if he blows this shot in front of his hometown fans idc who you are thats going to break a guy mentally. I personally feel that GSP is a better fighter than Matt Serra and believe he will win. I do however wish this fight was not in canada as it could destroy any chance GSP has of regaining the title while Serra holds it.


Now with that said I don't think Serra can hold the title for very long in the division. If he beats GSP I see him then dropping the title to a Fitch or a Karo soon after but the mentality of GSP in this fight has got to be far beyond anything we ourselves can grasp. I mean this fight means everything to this guy and he's going to be going out there looking to not make mistakes and usually when you try not to make mistakes you usually make them.I'm behind GSP 100% in this fight and hope he wins as Serra is not my favorite person but to say Serra can't win for myself is naive as he has already done it once and of course he can do it again. I guess the only thing left to do is fight and let the cards fall where they will.

This is probably the Defining moment in GSP's fighting life though and we will wait and see how the outcome which ever way effects him for the future.
ultimateweapon
3/20/08 2:52:08PM
Your right the home town thing can either pump up a fighter so much that there is no way he's letting anyone beat him or it can put so much pressure on him and cause him to choke. But I don't see Gsp choking.

We have seen how much better GSP gets after a loss Example after Hughes beat him he came back and owned him twice. Serra better be prepared.
CornishMMA
3/20/08 4:57:59PM
While everything i said is true the question of whether GSP can mentally step up should have already been answered!

The parallel with GSP Hughes 2 is very strong imo. The 1st loss is quite similar to the Serra loss, the fave/dog monikers were swapped around but it was still a mistake that lost him the fight. I see him coming into the fight just like he did with Hughes and dominating Serra
LuketheDuke
3/20/08 7:41:16PM
GSP has all of the pressure on him. He is expected to win (by most people) and that will be a very heavy burden, not to mention fighting in his own country. Serra is the heavy underdog and everyone (once again by everyone I mean most people) thinks he is going to get run through. There's not nearly as much pressure on him as there is on GSP. Despite all of this, I still believe that GSP will pull through the pressure and come out with a victory. . .the man is a beast!
MondayNiteMauser
3/21/08 5:23:47AM
I just hope its not another Rich Franklin situation....I think in MMA fighting in front of friends and family ands alot more pressure than people think. It's the fighters that rise above the pressure that become legends and I think GSP is just that....
MFOTHER
3/21/08 12:20:37PM
are you talking about rich fighting anderson in ohio? b/c that fight could have taken place on the moon and anderson still would have dominated.
Ordep
3/21/08 12:42:17PM

I recommend to watch the Bisping-Hamill fight and see how the "Home Advantage" didn't help the fighters but yet it influenced the judges .

I've been praying to the Gods of the Olympus for every single fight in the Canada Card to finish before the 5:00 mark on the third(and 5th) rounds.
MondayNiteMauser
3/21/08 3:36:40PM

Posted by MFOTHER

are you talking about rich fighting anderson in ohio? b/c that fight could have taken place on the moon and anderson still would have dominated.



Very Very true...
MFOTHER
3/22/08 12:30:55AM

Posted by Ordep


I recommend to watch the Bisping-Hamill fight and see how the "Home Advantage" didn't help the fighters but yet it influenced the judges .

I've been praying to the Gods of the Olympus for every single fight in the Canada Card to finish before the 5:00 mark on the third(and 5th) rounds.



good call..........that had to be the worst ruling in ufc history......but of all the possibilities in serra gsp 2, a decision is the least likely imo..........but then again that'd be a hell of a fight....
jocka
3/22/08 4:00:56PM
I do agrea that all the presure is on GSP but i think thts what he needs right right now. If he wins (i mean when he wins but don't want to jinxs it) his mental game will not longer be in question which by the way am tired of hearing about, plus he will know deep inside that nothing can stop him. Can t wait to see that card man its gonna be sweeeeeeeeet!
Rush
3/24/08 12:15:03PM
IMO, if fighting in your home town creates too much pressure, then you are in trouble from the get go. I can't think of any fighter that has stated that fighting in their home town/state put pressure on them. If anything I think they'll be more relaxed.

I'm attending a conference in Berlin this summer and if I end up doing a talk, I know that I'll be more nervous than than the talks I have given in Toronto (or even the US for that matter).

For me, the further from home I am, the further from my comfort zone I am. I'm banking on it being similar for most people (fighters or not).
bls1919
3/25/08 12:11:57AM
i think this is great for Serra. it puts all of the pressure on the homtown boy to win. Serra just needs to get past the boos and sub GSp to get it over with.............then withstand another barage of BOOOOOOOOS
teddythetuna
3/25/08 3:19:11PM
i think gsp is so focused on the task at hand that the hometown crowd will fire him up but not interfere with what he has to do. he has rebounded remarkably in the past from a loss and i dont think this will be any different. but we will see
themmadigest
3/27/08 12:43:53AM
From the things that I've read fighters say, most seem to think fighting at home gives them an advantage. Some do think there's more pressure and thus it can be a bad thing. I guess it all depends on how they view the situation. But most seem to think it's advantageous to fight in front of their home crowd.

But then there are guys who love coming into a town and proving everyone wrong. Serra is one of those types of guys. Thrives on the underdog role
therionace
4/14/08 8:36:12PM
gsp will have a tremendous amount of pressure to perform well. this will test his mental preparation. i'm a gsp fan, but i have concerns about his mental game. he is such an intense guy, that i wonder how'll he'll handle the emotions of fighting the man who beat him badly and in front of his friends and family. if he can pass this test, he'll probably rule the division for a couple of years.

gsp by rear naked choke 1st round.
teddythetuna
4/15/08 3:28:13PM
i dont doubt his mentality for a minute. only has two losses and the second time was his family issues. he is focused, ready, and angry. not a good combo for any opponent of gsp
therionace
4/15/08 4:36:59PM

Posted by DevonFoxy

Yea Cornish pretty much summed it up it can either be the best night of GSP's life of the worst. Everyone gave him a pass on the first Serra fight but if he blows this shot in front of his hometown fans idc who you are thats going to break a guy mentally. I personally feel that GSP is a better fighter than Matt Serra and believe he will win. I do however wish this fight was not in canada as it could destroy any chance GSP has of regaining the title while Serra holds it.


Now with that said I don't think Serra can hold the title for very long in the division. If he beats GSP I see him then dropping the title to a Fitch or a Karo soon after but the mentality of GSP in this fight has got to be far beyond anything we ourselves can grasp. I mean this fight means everything to this guy and he's going to be going out there looking to not make mistakes and usually when you try not to make mistakes you usually make them.I'm behind GSP 100% in this fight and hope he wins as Serra is not my favorite person but to say Serra can't win for myself is naive as he has already done it once and of course he can do it again. I guess the only thing left to do is fight and let the cards fall where they will.

This is probably the Defining moment in GSP's fighting life though and we will wait and see how the outcome which ever way effects him for the future.



you make some good points. gsp will be under loads of pressure. this may very well be a defining fight in his career as you have said. his nerves will be on a razor edge, which he will either rise to the challenge and put on a great performance or serra will capitalize on it. serra must have a lot of pressure on his shoulders also. if he loses he knows that he'll face a barrage of criticism and ridicule. mma fans may say that his first win was in fact lucky. he's going into hostile territory and deep inside he realizes that he may lose this fight, contrary to the nonchalant attitude he has during interviews.

the fight itself will end in the first, by way of submission, for gsp! i think he will want to humiliate serra just like serra did to him. what better way than to beat a gracie blackbelt at his own game. serra will not be able to stop the takedown, and gsp will keep his distance when striking, then go in for the kill.
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