The Booing in the Cote vs Smith fight.

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shawneth
2/10/07 4:08:10PM
I just watched Cote vs Smith because I missed it at first. I personally thought it was an OK fight definitly have been alot more boring fights (Gonzaga vs Jordan cough cough). The crowd was just ridiculous in this fight. I seen a few moments in the second round where they could have booed but during the third round it was really unwarranted. They were swinging away and connecting and within 15 seconds of a flurry, there goes the crowd. It really pisses me off when I hear this. Maybe they should stop serving alcohol at these events because the booing really brings the overall entertainment value down. I dont know about you but that was the worst i have heard heard the crowd.
fedorwins1
2/10/07 4:30:49PM
Yeah especially in the UFC booing is very bad. Do they serve alcohol at Pride events, because if they did then it wouldn't explain why UFC crowds are so bad. The japanese crowds are always better than the american crowds I don't know why, I guess they understand fighting better than the casual american mma fan.
shawneth
2/10/07 4:40:15PM
Is there any possible way to educate american fans in the ways of MMA then? Or are we destined to having fans who want nothing more then blood. Its not just americans though, when i watch fights with my family, theyre always saying "stand em up". But that is caz my family doesnt sit on the computer learining about MMA on the internet.
fedorwins1
2/10/07 4:56:37PM

Posted by shawneth

Is there any possible way to educate american fans in the ways of MMA then? Or are we destined to having fans who want nothing more then blood. Its not just americans though, when i watch fights with my family, theyre always saying "stand em up". But that is caz my family doesnt sit on the computer learining about MMA on the internet.



There will always be people who want to see blood and nothing else, most people only watch nascar for the wrecks they don't care who wins, they just want to see the wrecks. The sport is still young and over time I believe that people will begin to understand MMA better and not see it as a streetfight type of event.
richieb19
2/10/07 5:00:55PM

Posted by fedorwins1

Yeah especially in the UFC booing is very bad. Do they serve alcohol at Pride events, because if they did then it wouldn't explain why UFC crowds are so bad. The japanese crowds are always better than the american crowds I don't know why, I guess they understand fighting better than the casual american mma fan.

It has nothing to do with Japanese people understanding mma more, its a culture thing, Japanese people in general are very respectful...
madmarck
2/10/07 5:12:21PM

Posted by richieb19


Posted by fedorwins1

Yeah especially in the UFC booing is very bad. Do they serve alcohol at Pride events, because if they did then it wouldn't explain why UFC crowds are so bad. The japanese crowds are always better than the american crowds I don't know why, I guess they understand fighting better than the casual american mma fan.

It has nothing to do with Japanese people understanding mma more, its a culture thing, Japanese people in general are very respectful...



Soo............... How come Canadian Fans dont boo???? Canadian fans are pretty much awesome. Japanese gotta give em credit. Hundred thousand people thats a lot. And you can hear a pin drop at a Pride even. Seems like American People in general are willing to be more Aggressive.
Not to many riots happen in Japan...... or Canada for that matter. I think it is just a few bad apples and they get a few of their buddies to boo or chant USA along with them.
zephead
2/10/07 5:44:38PM
Watch Prides: Clash Of the Titans. The "Fight Professor" starts talking about how the fans are throwing stuff into the ring. The camera cuts away real quick. There's jerks in every culture. Yes, I hate the booing, when I went to UFC 53 I got into a little arguement about that. But I've enever seen a American crowd throw stuff into the octogon
jmoooooo
2/10/07 5:51:44PM
has nothing to do with "uneducated" american fans.


has everything to do with culture.

japanese are far more reserved, conservative. american fans will boo anything, hockey, baseball, basketball, football, the refs, the coaches, certain players alone even if they love the team. Its a culture thing, its not just mma, its not just the UFC.


Im not american but im still sick of hearing how its because of "uneducated" people, or the fans that only the UFC can attract.

If they are flying to vegas and paying 1k/seat they arent trailer trash, they arent 16 year old kids.


I dont like the booing, but you have to understand the culture difference.


any canadian here who has watched (when it happened or reruns, whatever) the soviet play against canada in the 70's. When the games took place in canada, the crowds were nuts, very loud whether it was cheering/booing/whatever. When the games took place in the Soviet Union, the only noise from the crowds were from the canadian fans in attendence. This has also been confirmed by candian players/staff who were there.
Albertan
2/10/07 5:52:19PM

Posted by madmarck


Posted by richieb19


Posted by fedorwins1

Yeah especially in the UFC booing is very bad. Do they serve alcohol at Pride events, because if they did then it wouldn't explain why UFC crowds are so bad. The japanese crowds are always better than the american crowds I don't know why, I guess they understand fighting better than the casual american mma fan.

It has nothing to do with Japanese people understanding mma more, its a culture thing, Japanese people in general are very respectful...



Soo............... How come Canadian Fans dont boo???? Canadian fans are pretty much awesome. Japanese gotta give em credit. Hundred thousand people thats a lot. And you can hear a pin drop at a Pride even. Seems like American People in general are willing to be more Aggressive.
Not to many riots happen in Japan...... or Canada for that matter. I think it is just a few bad apples and they get a few of their buddies to boo or chant USA along with them.



Its funny because we Canadians do boo say if an american is fighting our champ. But generally mid fight even on a poor fight Canadians would rather leave to get a fresh beer then booo the action of two guys going at it.

MMA
2/10/07 5:53:57PM
I suppose the booing was somewhat justified in this match because Cote had an excellent chance to finish off Smith, but he did not capitalize whatsoever on it.

Cote was definitely afraid of Smith's KO power, which is why he did not go in for the kill, but honestly, he could have finished that fight and not make Dana pissed. When Sell ran in to finish off Smith, he was pretty badly beaten so it was expected that he would get KO by Smith if he just carelessly rushed in.

Cote was still fresh while Smith was rocked, he could have picked his shots and then start throwing bombs when Smith starts to cover up more.

But yeah, overall, I do agree that the booing needs to be toned down. However, you have to look at it from a fan's perspective as well. They paid a lot of money to watch the fights and they don't like it when two fighters just try to stall it out. On the other hand, some uneducated fans just do not understand the tactics involved in MMA and boo at everything.
Stickan
2/10/07 6:32:54PM

Posted by MMA

I suppose the booing was somewhat justified in this match because Cote had an excellent chance to finish off Smith, but he did not capitalize whatsoever on it.

Cote was definitely afraid of Smith's KO power, which is why he did not go in for the kill, but honestly, he could have finished that fight and not make Dana pissed. When Sell ran in to finish off Smith, he was pretty badly beaten so it was expected that he would get KO by Smith if he just carelessly rushed in.

Cote was still fresh while Smith was rocked, he could have picked his shots and then start throwing bombs when Smith starts to cover up more.

But yeah, overall, I do agree that the booing needs to be toned down. However, you have to look at it from a fan's perspective as well. They paid a lot of money to watch the fights and they don't like it when two fighters just try to stall it out. On the other hand, some uneducated fans just do not understand the tactics involved in MMA and boo at everything.



Agree. First time I actually agreed with the booing. Cote looked soo tentative I'd prefer if he had lost even though I picked him to win. And in his post-fight interview it sounded like he went for the decision the whole time which to me is bullshit.

I think it was a little warranted.
Sagat_GSP12
2/10/07 6:37:05PM
I really think Cote thought he was playing possum though. Regardless you want to see somebody finish a fight, but I still think booing at an MMA event is ridiculous. There should be a rule: You can only boo if you plan on stepping in the ring with one of the fighters you're booing.
The booing of Rampage was even more uncalled for IMO.
jocksmall
2/10/07 6:45:10PM
i have been to several show where part of the crowd booed. i think in most cases it shows there ignorance and lack of class
loller90278
2/10/07 7:02:10PM
it's a chain reaction.. one jerk goes BOOO and the rest join.. prob dont even know what they're booing at.. one time i did feel sorry for the fighter that was gettin boo'ed was chris leben

he lost to jmac and said he was fighting for the fans and they kept booing him
gspfan31
2/10/07 7:05:18PM

Posted by loller90278

it's a chain reaction.. one jerk goes BOOO and the rest join.. prob dont even know what they're booing at.. one time i did feel sorry for the fighter that was gettin boo'ed was chris leben

he lost to jmac and said he was fighting for the fans and they kept booing him



ya, i really didn't see why they were booing him
madmarck
2/10/07 7:06:16PM

Posted by jmoooooo

has nothing to do with "uneducated" american fans.


has everything to do with culture.

japanese are far more reserved, conservative. american fans will boo anything, hockey, baseball, basketball, football, the refs, the coaches, certain players alone even if they love the team. Its a culture thing, its not just mma, its not just the UFC.


Im not american but im still sick of hearing how its because of "uneducated" people, or the fans that only the UFC can attract.

If they are flying to vegas and paying 1k/seat they arent trailer trash, they arent 16 year old kids.


I dont like the booing, but you have to understand the culture difference.


any canadian here who has watched (when it happened or reruns, whatever) the soviet play against canada in the 70's. When the games took place in canada, the crowds were nuts, very loud whether it was cheering/booing/whatever. When the games took place in the Soviet Union, the only noise from the crowds were from the canadian fans in attendence. This has also been confirmed by candian players/staff who were there.



Hockey is a lot Different than MMA. Personally every hoceky game i have been to no one has booed.
But Hockey is Canadas Life blood. And Vs the Soviets int he 70's well lets just say what other time did we get a chance to kick our Fabled Foes asses in the Cold war.
You cant Compare The Soviet vs Canada Hockey Game to any other sporting event in the world.

And just so i add it. A Drunk Canadian is far more rowdy than a drunk American.
(Higher amount of beers, higher alcohol %)
madmarck
2/10/07 7:07:46PM

Posted by loller90278

it's a chain reaction.. one jerk goes BOOO and the rest join.. prob dont even know what they're booing at.. one time i did feel sorry for the fighter that was gettin boo'ed was chris leben

he lost to jmac and said he was fighting for the fans and they kept booing him


It is always one person. One Douche. Then the Mob mentaility takes over and people arent afraid to yell stuff anymore.
Trapt1nw0nder
2/10/07 7:58:21PM
Americans are spoiled..(except me)

i wish they would put THEM in the cage see how much balls they have!
Svartorm
2/11/07 2:45:35AM

Posted by zephead

But I've never seen a American crowd throw stuff into the octagon



Severn vs. Shamrock 2. Granted if I'd paid to see that, I'd have probably thrown my chair into the octagon.

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