Posted by NatedawgThaM
Nobodys even replying about the thread purpose, just at you picking at my one little sentence that you put out there.
I thought I at least touched up on the purpose in my initial post, but I will definitely try to be more thorough in this post.
I believe you are arguing that Nogueira blocks punches with his face, and that if he touches up on his boxing defense, he will cure himself from this "mexican boxer syndrome".
My argument is, couldnt you say that about every fighter though? For example, if Kongo just touches up on his ground defense he would not get destroyed when his back touches the mat? Or, if I simply just worked on my kickboxing, BJJ, wrestling techniques... wouldnt I be able to be better? Surely, but I would assume that there would be a limit to what I could achieve (which is why some people who train, touch up, practice BJJ people defeat other people who train, touch up, and practice BJJ all day long).
I think you are making a theoretical argument in Nogueira's case - and not a practical one.
Do we know that Nogueira can just apply better technical defensive boxing into his standup?
If Nogueira has been training standup with Anderson Silva, his brother, Dos Santos, and other trainers - fighters over the years... wouldn't you think that he has been taught on how to apply boxing defense in his fights? And if he is not able to really apply what he is taught, then can his "mexican boxer syndrome" really be cured? Even though he has not shown much in the way of head movement, etc... does this mean that by just touching up on this attribute that he would be able to effectively apply this into his fights?
Im not trying to bust you at all, I am just trying to understand your argument a little better, which is why I usually have to breakdown your argument in little sentences at a time.
Another question on what you said
I definitely don't think he's done, I just think he should touch up his boxing and we'll see Nog still do some great things to come.
-If he is unable to touch up on his boxing do you think Nog would be considered "done"?
- At this point in time, since he did not use his boxing defense well against Cain, do you consider him "done"? And that he will no longer be done so long as he touches up on his boxing defense?
I think this argument is based on whether or not one believes that Nogueira will be able to just touch up on his boxing defense and apply it to a fight.
And if one believes that he will be able to touch up on his boxing defense that he will reach the top, and if one believes that he will not be able to have the capabilities to effectively use this in a fight... then they come to the conclusion that Nogueira has already peaked as a fighter.
Im sure most of the people on here (whichever side they be on) would have to come to the conclusion where they would have to agree to disagree.