Posted by Michael_Corleone
Posted by bjj1605
Stands up from any position other than guard should be 100% outlawed.
I get that you don't want people stalling and all, but once the guy passes guard (even to half guard) I say let them fight.
Stand ups are a major interruption in the normal course of the fight and can radically change the outcome.
Completely disagree with banning standups. I am not going to pay $900/ticket to watch somebody like Ben Askren bear hug somebody in half guard for 4 minutes a round without looking to finish the fight. Explain that one to the sponsors
The easy option to all this is pay the refs more so more people would want to do it. Its a pretty thankless job and from what I've heard its not great pay. If the pay rose more educated people would apply and then the standard of refs would rise.
This would mean more action on the ground, less unwarranted stand ups and less stalling by those looking to just hold on for a decision.
Its a world recognised sport now and the standard of the refs is pathetic. I honestly think 90% of the guys on here could do a better job than the likes of Kim Winslow an Miragliotta.
Both sides have good arguments but it boils down to poor refereeing. I don't see why guys like Herb Dean, Big John and . . . well they are the only two I can think of, don't approach the athletic commission and petition them with a list of criteria that they think a ref should have attained before being allowed to get in there.