Best UFC/Pride beatdown or total domination that went to a decision

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hippysmacker
2/1/07 9:05:55PM
I'd have to go with Fedor/Big Nog 1 and Coutre/Tito. I still can't beleive Nog survived that fight conscious, and Tito couldn't do anything from bell to bell.
zephead
2/1/07 9:20:53PM
Igor vs Enson. A complete beatdown.
hippysmacker
2/1/07 9:26:28PM

Posted by zephead

Igor vs Enson. A complete beatdown.



that' a good one, but I don't think I was clear enough with the title. I meant fight's that went to a decision. Igor/Inoue was stopped at the end of the first .I'm talking total wall to wall took a beating and survivived till the bell rang.
gspfan31
2/1/07 9:35:21PM
cro cop vs. kanehara

sherk vs. ryuki ueyama

mayhem vs. gsp
zephead
2/1/07 9:39:17PM

Posted by hippysmacker


Posted by zephead

Igor vs Enson. A complete beatdown.



that' a good one, but I don't think I was clear enough with the title. I meant fight's that went to a decision. Igor/Inoue was stopped at the end of the first .I'm talking total wall to wall took a beating and survivived till the bell rang.



Sorry dude.

If Big John wouldn't have stopped the fight as late as he did, Coleman vs Frye was a beatdown. GSP vs Mayhem and Fedor vs Nog.
hippysmacker
2/1/07 9:52:27PM

Posted by zephead


Posted by hippysmacker


Posted by zephead

Igor vs Enson. A complete beatdown.



that' a good one, but I don't think I was clear enough with the title. I meant fight's that went to a decision. Igor/Inoue was stopped at the end of the first .I'm talking total wall to wall took a beating and survivived till the bell rang.



Sorry dude.

If Big John wouldn't have stopped the fight as late as he did, Coleman vs Frye was a beatdown. GSP vs Mayhem and Fedor vs Nog.



my bad, I'll be clearer next time. I only saw the Sherk fight once, but I remeber it was a beating.Mayrm/GSP should of been stopped IMO, but it fit's. Frye/Coleman 2 fit's the domination, what a dissapointment by Frye. All that build up about F.Shamrock training him and he fell flat.
Reignofterror
2/1/07 9:55:04PM
Georges st Pierre vs Frank Trigg


Ouchies.
hippysmacker
2/1/07 10:01:59PM

Posted by Reignofterror

Georges st Pierre vs Frank Trigg


Ouchies.



Defiantely a beatdown but also a RNC finish. I'm definately changing the title.
Svartorm
2/2/07 3:22:59AM

Posted by gspfan31

cro cop vs. kanehara



I whole-heartedly agree. Wasn't Kanehara in the hospital for three weeks or something after this fight?
hippysmacker
2/2/07 3:31:07AM

Posted by Svartorm


Posted by gspfan31

cro cop vs. kanehara



I whole-heartedly agree. Wasn't Kanehara in the hospital for three weeks or something after this fight?



I have no idea how long he was in the hospital, but I agree with the beatdown. I think Mirko was taking his rage from the Randleman KO out on Kanehara.
gspfan31
2/2/07 3:46:46AM

Posted by hippysmacker


Posted by Svartorm


Posted by gspfan31

cro cop vs. kanehara



I whole-heartedly agree. Wasn't Kanehara in the hospital for three weeks or something after this fight?



I have no idea how long he was in the hospital, but I agree with the beatdown. I think Mirko was taking his rage from the Randleman KO out on Kanehara.



i think cro cop would have finished him if he didn't gas
Svartorm
2/2/07 4:18:23AM
Come on, its hard work hitting a guy that many times! I'd be tired too!
hippysmacker
2/2/07 4:26:34AM

Posted by Svartorm

Come on, its hard work hitting a guy that many times! I'd be tired too!



At last he din't go Shamrock/Fujita and just give up when he couln't stop the guy. I still can't beleive that happened.
loller90278
2/2/07 1:33:40PM

Posted by hippysmacker


Posted by Svartorm

Come on, its hard work hitting a guy that many times! I'd be tired too!



At last he din't go Shamrock/Fujita and just give up when he couln't stop the guy. I still can't beleive that happened.



yeah i still don't know why he just threw in the towel? did he just gas cuz he was just standing on the ropes doing nothing? anybody know (and by anybody i mean hippysmacker)
Stickan
2/2/07 1:57:29PM
Marquardt - Lister was a really lop-sided beating.
Sherk - Florian as well...
Svartorm
2/2/07 5:11:35PM

Posted by hippysmacker


Posted by Svartorm

Come on, its hard work hitting a guy that many times! I'd be tired too!



At last he din't go Shamrock/Fujita and just give up when he couln't stop the guy. I still can't beleive that happened.



He broke his hand on Fujitas cement skull. If you watch when he taps, he looks at the ref and lifts his right hand, saying its broken. Kens prone to broken hands from the gloveless early UFC days.
cowcatcher
2/2/07 5:17:33PM
if you break a hand it grows back harder and stronger, not to be a jerk or anything, but fujitas head is just a rock
Svartorm
2/2/07 5:34:40PM
I've never heard that one before. I'm not doctor, but typically when you break bones, that bone is never 100%. I broke my leg in a fight about two years ago and it still hurts to this day when I jog. If you have the bones in the hand set, I can see it minimizing the chance of breakage again, but I can't see it making the hand stronger.
cowcatcher
2/2/07 6:19:03PM
not to continue an arguement, cuz you're a good poster, but the standard martial arts brick breaker gets his hands calcified, and essentially stronger thicker bones from doing continuous damage to them by breaking things, great martial arts show on A&E or Nat Geo or something covered it, can't remember the name though
Svartorm
2/3/07 2:50:19AM
Feel free to argue with me all you want bro. I'm here for the good discussions after all.

What traditional martial artists do is impact their hands repeatedly against hard surfaces, which compacts the bone over time and eventually calicifies the bone, making it hard as stone. A "soft" method of doing this is repeatedly slapping into a bucket of water, which does the same thing, but over the course of years, as opposed to months. Muay Thai guys work a similar method with their shins, where they strike hard surfaces until the nerves are dead and the bone has calcified.

Thats a different kind of "break" though, as its creating microscopic fissures in the bone that fill in with calcium deposits and become extremely hard. Literally breaking your hand, as in having the bone snap in half, is not the same thing. If it sets correctly, it will heal just fine, but it certainly won't be stronger, and I'm willing to bet Kens right hand never set correctly.

You've gotta remember he came from a Pancrase background, which doesn't allow closed hand strikes, so punching in NHB combat was new to him, and he ended up breaking his hand at least twice that I can remember. The old UFCs were full of broken hands, which is why they'd have so many alternates.
RedScorpion
2/3/07 8:36:24AM
Fedor vs Nog 1 for sure!
madmarck
2/3/07 9:42:15AM
Couture Vs Tito has got to be the longest one of that magnitude. Sherk vs FLorian as well but people excpeted that to happen. Everyone thought that tito was gonan GNP randy out but it was the other way around.
OB_Juan
2/3/07 9:40:35PM
Sakra/Sinosic was a pretty bloody beatdown.
OB_Juan
2/3/07 9:44:04PM
I've never heard that excuse before. I've heard Ken was nauseous from a low blow. Mainly I've just heard it was a lack of heart on Ken's part (which has always been my opinion of it). Ken's never been short of excuses before, if this was the case i think I'd have heard it from his lips by now.
Manfred
2/4/07 2:23:26AM

Posted by hippysmacker


Posted by Svartorm

Come on, its hard work hitting a guy that many times! I'd be tired too!



At last he din't go Shamrock/Fujita and just give up when he couln't stop the guy. I still can't beleive that happened.



Rumor was he had a heart murmor or something and thought he was having a heart attack. Could've been spin though.

If I thought I was having a heart attack, I wouldve verbally submitted instead of yelling to my corner for 30+ seconds to throw in the towel!
Svartorm
2/4/07 3:01:20AM

Posted by OB_Juan

I've never heard that excuse before. I've heard Ken was nauseous from a low blow. Mainly I've just heard it was a lack of heart on Ken's part (which has always been my opinion of it). Ken's never been short of excuses before, if this was the case i think I'd have heard it from his lips by now.



I'll throw in the DVD in a minute and get back to you. I could be mistaken because I've only seen it once.
Svartorm
2/4/07 3:23:52AM
Ok, just watched the fight again. He does receive a light knee to the groin a few minutes before he quits, but it wasn't that bad. As for my hand theory, he was actually asking the corner to throw in the towel and gesturing with the hand, because some of his cornermen refused to throw it in. I thought he was talking to the ref.

I think it was pure exhaustion. He threw a lot of punches and was clearly winded even before the groin hit. I guess Ken only knows though.
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