Posted by jiujitsufreak74
i agree with you. i don't feel that randy should have the top spot let alone the 3rd or 4th spot. imo he hasn't done the same for the sport like tito, chuck or even forrest and bonnar have done like you mentioned. a lot of people tend to overrate randy's accomplishments solely based on his age. from an objective view point, i would say royce has done more than him as well. because of royce, people were forced to adapt a ground game and learn submissions which led to the evolution of the sport form individual styles into the complete MMA athletes. now i am not down playing randy's accomplishments of holding two titles in two divisions....but in terms of how they effected MMA i wouldn't rank him in my top 4 or 5. it is really obvious sometimes how most MMA fans give too much credit to randy and really overplay what he has done. now the other way to interpret this question was the 10 most skilled fighters to step into the octagon. if that is the case, randy still doesn't make my top 5. i am not a randy hater so please don't flame me but it is unfair to people who have done more for the sport and consistently defeated better competition to be ranked lower then him.
Exactly. I'm basing what I wrote on the beginning of the article, which states -
Here are 10 UFC fighters who have helped the sport grow into what is today. Some fighters have helped more than others, but all have made some contribution to the business. These 10 UFC fighters are the best fighters to enter the Ultimate Fighting Championship ring.
Your points about Royce are 100% correct. I'm not as much of a jiu jitsu lover as you are, and yet I clearly see this being the case.
As far as popularity of the sport goes Tito and Chuck Liddell were the first to really hit the mainstream. Which is a category even Tank Abbott belongs in. Chuck also did an excellent job as one of the first strikers to keep grapplers on their feet for the KO. Chuck is a forefather of the sprawl n' brawl. Right now some of your top fighters across the divisions are sprawl and brawl fighters.
Not to mention the fact that Chuck Liddell was related to so easily by the fans due to his laid back persona and general charisma. He's probably got more appearances on tv talkshows and radioshows than any other UFC fighter besides maybe Tito Ortiz.
In Tito's case you have a person who perfected the Octagon persona aspect of the game. As well as ushering in a new era of GnP to the game. (Which has now become obsolete, IMO.. but that's a whole nother story)
So there's my reasons for those two being #1 and #2. Oh yeah, and Tito Ortiz is banging Jenna Jameson, which for some reason seems like is the #1 topic of discussion about Tito amongst the un-MMA-educated masses.