Posted by RMFG_187
3 people that can beat Nog in the UFC.
Randy Without a doubt (but it won't happen)
Andrei would be a joke fight
Lesnar (as much as i hate him he would own Nog in the stand up and then GnP)
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt, that despite the complaints I've gotten , you are not trolling and beleive what you wrote. Since you seem to have so little respect for one of the all-time greats in Big NOG, and are so sure that you are right . I mean only a guy who is always right , would brashly post hyperbole like- Randy would beat Nog without a doubt- That is would be a joke fight for AA when fighting Nog- or that 1-1 IN MMA Lesnar who just got subbed ,by a on the comeback trail Mir, would own Nog in the standup and Gnp him.
1rst-Randy without a doubt.- I guess thats your opinion, but if after watching MMA for the last year and a half you think someone is unbeatable more power to ya. I figure since your never wrong you are undefeated in picks, right? OOPS, no guess not. While you have a decent 55 and 33 career record and have started off very well this year at 18- and 9 you do in fact not always pick right. Now why I think this fight is a pickem, and don't think Randy is scared of Nog, fact is Randy refused to fight big Nog. That should at least give you some doubt. or may be I'm just talking reasonable doubt. Of course somebody would have to be reasonable, be capable of seeing more than one possibility , and have the ability to discern from multiple choices. Either way I agree this fight could go to Randy, but I would never have the audacity to say he would beat Big Nog" without a doubt" Still a guy who has such certainty in himself must have a track record of proven post. Let's see even though you confessed to being a Lesnar hater you did say and I quote
"Frank Mir is an easy matchup for him"
OOPS! again. wow maybe your not always right, maybe being so brash could come back to bite ya in the ass
2nd- Andrei fight would be a joke- I find this really Interesting , becuase while some may find it funny, Andres performance lately just makes me sad. Andre has lost 2 of his last 4 fights, and I doubt he is very proud of his victory over Werdum. At least thats what he said when he was apologizing to the crowd after that snore fest . So either a loss, or a uninspired performance in 3 of last 4 fights. A marked tentativeness since he got Koed by Sylvia, and even throwing repeated back of the head shots against Cruz . I mean yeah look at all the victory's he has over guys rated in the top 10 when he fought them. Sylvia and Werdum ( thats it! ) and the Werdum fight had people throwing stuff at the ring.Let's see how many losses he has against guys who were top 10 when he fought them. Let's see Rizzo crushed his face, Barnett Koed him, and Sylvia Koed and completely outpointed him. That makes him 2-4 against top 10 fighters on any MMA sites rankings I have ever seen. Lets look at Nog by comparison. Lets see- won his first 6 fights then ( AA lost his first ,in possibly the funniest mma fight ever, seriously watch it if you haven't
) lost a close split decision to Hendo back in the no-weight class days. Then he became Rings champion( he was now a top 10 guy most places) before moving onto Pride. Beat Coleman( top 3, if not # 1 everywhere that did rankings back then) , the reigning GP champ and on a big roll at the time, in the first round. Then he finished off Herring ( top 5 at least everywhere then) to win the tournament and title. Then when Pride and K-1 teamed up for the cross-promotional show he fought undefeated at the time, and most people thought real life Godzilla Bob Sapp, and gave stopped him . At this time a lot of people were afraid to fight the guy. His aura of invincibility was strong till Nog tore it down. Then he beat a another giant ( who is now K-1's champ Sammy Schilt , and was top 10 back then ) to once again prove mma guys will generally pawn a guy who's just a striker. Schilt even had a lot of MMA experience , but Nog still tapped him.Then he avenged his loss to Hendo in the GP, even tapped him. At last he met Fedor( was top 5 then) and took the biggest beating I have ever seen in a decision. No matter what anyone thinks about NOG, I think all will agree he has taken the most punishment , and come back more than anybody in MMA history.I am sure having seen him pull it out a the last minute so many times, many thought he was still gonna sub Fedor in that last minute, but he didn't. He then got a victory over Ricco( just de -throned UFc heavyweight champ, and top 5) , although personally i would have given the decision to Rodriguez. Then gave Cro-cop his first loss, in another fight where he absorbed a ton of punishment, only to pull out the sub yet again. Then he took out Herring and Kharotanov again( both top 10 at THE TIME) to make it the final against Fedor again. After a no-contest due a cut Fedor sustained, they fought again. Fedor ( #1 to most ) had his number again, butt this fight was not dominant like the last one. He then Submitted Natula, considered the greatest Judoka in history by most, in the first round. A unranked guy, but another guy most did not want to fight when he came into MMA. Nog then beat Werdum ( top 5-10). Then he lost a close fight of the year candidate battle with Barnett( top 5) , and won the rematch in another classic. Last he subbed sylvia( top5) in another fight where it looked like he was absorbing a lot of damage but found a way to win again. So Nog is 11 and 3 against top 10 guys with 2 losses to fedor( most peoples # 1 at the time) and 1 to Barnet( top 5) he later avenged. He also repeatedly stepped up to fight people others were afraid to at the time( sapp, Cro-cop, Nastula) . So we are gonna have to disagree hugely. While I would never disrespect AA and imply " it would be a joke" for him to actually beat NOg , I would give him only a punchers chance.
3rd- and my favorite- Lesnar would own Nog in the standup and would Gnp Him. Nog has survived the worst beatings in MMA history, fedor 1, Sapp, Mirko, and has never been stopped. He has actually won 2 of those fights, and was taking a beating from Sylvia as well. Maybe you know very little about the ground game, or standup, but Nog is considered better than Mir at both. Nog trains with the Brazilian Olympic boxing team ,and was holding his own against Sylvia on the feet. Personally I beleive Tim's reach is the only reason he was able to land more punches. On the ground while Mir is well respected, the only top Hvy fighter who is considered to have better jits than Nog is Werdum. The only guys considered better on the ground than him overall are Fedor and Werdum, but hey thats just the opinion of about 90% of the fighters. Just ask yourself one question honestly. Have you ever met someone who thought that Mir could take more punishment than NOG?
Come on man! Mir , his trainer, and his mom wouldn't make that claim. Nog would have probably tied Lesnar up a lot quicker, and not been dropped by a Lesanr jab anyway. Opinions aside, to compare the mma pedigrees of Lesnar and nog is just rude. It's like comparing Vince Young o Tom Brady. One has a lot of potential, but hasn't even won a playoff game . The other has proven he is a champion multiple times, as is considered on of the greatest ever.