Angry Bisping to go on the Rampage in Big Bear

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aznteabagger
7/23/07 1:45:03PM
When the name "Matt Hamill" first came up as a prospective UFC 75 opponent, undefeated light heavyweight and The Ultimate Fighter season 3 winner Michael Bisping was, well, underwhelmed.


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bayonetxwork
7/23/07 2:21:37PM
I would like to see Hamill win this, although I don't think its gonna happen. But I still disagree with the statements about how pure wrestling alone won't win you fights in MMA. Look at Matt Hughes, Koscheck, Couture, etc. its their wrestling alone that won them fights, however koscheck and couture have evolved to incorporate some striking in(still think hughes has the shittiest stand up of all former champions).

Anyways, Bisping by 3rd round TKO.
Violentcuv
7/23/07 2:23:27PM
I understand where Bisping is coming from, but he has to understand that alot of people want to see this fight.

Bisping round 2 TKO
DougDrex
7/23/07 2:53:28PM
I agree with Violentcuv. I understand that Bisping wants tougher competition so that he can move up the LHW ranks, but the fans want to see this matchup so he can prove that his TUF win was no fluke. If he wins this fight (and I believe that he will), I have no reason to doubt that the UFC will allow him to step up in competition.
Taylor8766
7/23/07 2:58:50PM
I don't think Bisping realizes that Hamill is getting better and better with his striking, it's still far from Bispings but just to say that he's a one demential fighter is kinda harsh because he's been training with Ortiz and Grove and picking up some submissions and stand-up, and he should be careful because if he gets taken down he could be in trouble and standing, he could get caught with a punch if he's to cocky.

Bisping by decision
ocho-cinco
7/23/07 3:30:23PM
I think Bisping wins this fight without much problem. He is strong enough that he can handle Hamill's wrestling. Bisping will be able to keep this fight standing up, and his striking is much better. I believe this is the wrong weightclass for Hamill, he needs to move down to 185. Hamill has enough raw talent to become a solid fighter in the UFC, but not at LHW.
Yaknowhaimean
7/23/07 3:44:05PM
Haha, shin on chin...

The most interesting part of this, I think, is that Bisping is training with Rampage for this fight. Now that Hamill is no longer training with Team Punishment (Tito has said this numerous times lately, saying Hamill's people wanted to take him in a different direction or something), I can't imagine Hamill training as hard as Bisping will with Rampage at Big Bear.

Of course, Rampage and Bisping are two of my favorite fighters, so I am really just excited to see their training footage / all access the week before UFC 75, that will be hilarious!

k_lup07
7/23/07 4:08:37PM
i see it being a walk for bisping. not doubting hamill but bisping is a beast
nubby
7/23/07 4:19:22PM
After hearing that Hams left Big Bear and that Bisbing is going to start training there I immediately thought to myself that Bisbing was going to knock the socks off Hams. I thought it was just plain stupid to leave Tito's camp when Tito is one of the top GnP guys around. Hams definitely needed to learn better striking and better BJJ though. Tito could help with the BJJ but the striking was something he needed to seek out some where else.
nastshabast
7/23/07 4:26:50PM
i'll take bisbing in this one
chiefwiggum
7/23/07 5:20:43PM
I may be the only one not looking forward to this fight. To be honest neither fighter have impressed me yet.
charpy06
7/23/07 6:02:42PM
Bisping is right, Matt is a pig headed bastard. Matt is going to try to shoot in and Bisping is going to knee him right in the face! KO baby!
nubby
7/23/07 7:02:21PM

Posted by charpy06

Bisping is right, Matt is a pig headed bastard. Matt is going to try to shoot in and Bisping is going to knee him right in the face! KO baby!



Let's just hope he doesn't have a chin liek Sherk otherwise it will be a long night for Bisbing.
chris_armour
7/23/07 7:15:58PM
bisbing by devastating KO round 1
italianpride
7/23/07 8:02:43PM

Posted by nubby

After hearing that Hams left Big Bear and that Bisbing is going to start training there I immediately thought to myself that Bisbing was going to knock the socks off Hams. I thought it was just plain stupid to leave Tito's camp when Tito is one of the top GnP guys around. Hams definitely needed to learn better striking and better BJJ though. Tito could help with the BJJ but the striking was something he needed to seek out some where else.



I think we've seen his chin, on TUF, and he couldn't really handle taking abuse, it seems he has a lack of heart and toughness. Sure he's evolved, but that's not something you learn, you're born with it or you're not. BTW, why do you insist on calling him Hams?? lol that's just weird
madmarck
7/23/07 8:17:31PM

Posted by nubby

After hearing that Hams left Big Bear and that Bisbing is going to start training there I immediately thought to myself that Bisbing was going to knock the socks off Hams. I thought it was just plain stupid to leave Tito's camp when Tito is one of the top GnP guys around. Hams definitely needed to learn better striking and better BJJ though. Tito could help with the BJJ but the striking was something he needed to seek out some where else.


Why would Matt leave that Camp??????
IMO that is a very bad move. Unless he is jumping ship to some other huge team like AKA or MFS, but it still doesnt make much sense.
And no Bisping is going up to big bear to train.

Doesnt Rampage train out of Titos Camp up there or does he have his own gym? and are they just friends now and not training partners.

Edit: oh yeah Bisping by flying Knee.
BispingFutureChampLance
7/23/07 8:51:47PM
Bisping deserves a much better fight then Hammil, Bisping should be fighting chuck instead of Jardine. Bisping would definately beat Jardine! Not quite ready to beat Chuck but tons better than Jardine. This will be less than 3 minutes into the first round and Hamil will be out Cold! No disrespect to Hamil but Bisping is much better than him right now. Hamil at 185 in a year or so Maybe. As for wrestling only, You CANNOT win anymore in MMA with Wrestling only!!!!!
Trench777
7/23/07 9:22:25PM
Bisping v. Lidell would be a great fight.

In fact, Jardine v. Hamill would have been a decent fight on the same card, come to think of it.

Perhaps Bisping/Lidell will happen,. after they both dispatch thier current speed bumps.

*shrug*

T777
chiefwiggum
7/23/07 9:24:17PM
I agree that Bisbing is a much better all around fighter but he has not fought anyone good in the UFC. Plus I think Sherk has proven you can win with only wrestling.

tmas
7/23/07 9:48:28PM
Dont be suprised when Hammil's Hand is raised.

His downfall is his chin , it is suspect, as well as his born condition. I agree that he would be very good at 185, but he is still going to be good at 205, Franklin like.

Wrestling is enough to win, look at people like Sherk, Couture, even to an extent Tito. All good wrestlers with average or so striking, who take their opponet to the ground and pound them into stoppage/submission. im hesitatnt to throw Kos in that bracket cause i cant stand him but he is a candidate for that as well.

Matt IS going to get a takedown, a wrestler as good as him its inevitable. We will get to see just how good Bisping is on the ground, when he is on his back with a dominate wrestler on top of him.

This is a good fight for both guys, Bisping hs a lot to prove on the ground still, and Matt still believes like many that he could have been the winner.

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Matt wins late in the first round by TKO. GnP will prevail.
quezocrema0032
7/24/07 1:06:51AM
Wow ... who said tht bisping would beat jardine .... wow ur on his band wagon 2 much both of bispings fights post the haynes won had been stopped 2 earley and he was in danger in both ... for ex eric shaffer had his back in tht fight and took him down like 3 times and sinosic had in a tight kimura .... if jardine had those he would be out ... and i think ur ridiculous bisping over jardine ha .... maybe in the future but not now ... but he will beat hamil
TOMMYAYO05
7/24/07 1:29:33AM
Man im really pulling for hamill but i dont see it happenin.
SpiderSilva
7/24/07 2:58:03AM
Bisbing did dominate those fights and still won
all that said it just show that hes good under pressure
Bisging is gonna win by TKO in the 2nd rd His stand up is too goond and he will be watching for those takedowns so thats where hes gonna be aiming his shots
kbogarto
7/24/07 9:51:48AM

Posted by quezocrema0032

Wow ... who said tht bisping would beat jardine .... wow ur on his band wagon 2 much both of bispings fights post the haynes won had been stopped 2 earley and he was in danger in both ... for ex eric shaffer had his back in tht fight and took him down like 3 times and sinosic had in a tight kimura .... if jardine had those he would be out ... and i think ur ridiculous bisping over jardine ha .... maybe in the future but not now ... but he will beat hamil



no one did
jahdoug
7/24/07 12:30:36PM

Posted by kbogarto


Posted by quezocrema0032

Wow ... who said tht bisping would beat jardine .... wow ur on his band wagon 2 much both of bispings fights post the haynes won had been stopped 2 earley and he was in danger in both ... for ex eric shaffer had his back in tht fight and took him down like 3 times and sinosic had in a tight kimura .... if jardine had those he would be out ... and i think ur ridiculous bisping over jardine ha .... maybe in the future but not now ... but he will beat hamil



no one did




haha is he saying Jardine's submissions are better than Sinosic's????
DonnieDarko
7/24/07 9:00:37PM
I agree with TOMMYAYO05 I'd love to see hamill win and it could happen but right now bisping is problet the superior fighter.
CanadianCripplr
7/25/07 7:24:15PM

Posted by chiefwiggum

I may be the only one not looking forward to this fight. To be honest neither fighter have impressed me yet.


Im there with you. I want to see Bisping get a quality fight so that I may make money betting against him. I thought Elvis made him look beatable at times.
nubby
7/25/07 7:33:27PM
That's because his ground game needs work. If Bisping loses it will be due to his lacking ground skills. Ironically that is exactly what Hams is better at. If hams learned how to ground and pound it could be a long night for the Count.
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