Alistair Overeem Won't Wait For UFC Title Shot

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MMAcca
8/28/12 4:03:24PM
Alistair Overeem, the former Strikeforce and K-1 champion who's been suspended since failing a pre-fight urine test that forced him out of UFC 146, says he won't wait for a title shot when he returns to the UFC.

The Dutch fighter is busy serving a 9-month suspension courtesy of the Nevada State Athletic Commission until December 29, 2012. His manager Glenn Robinson of Authentic Sports Management was on MMA Weekly Radio and shared some info about Overeem's return including the fact that Overeem has been in Florida training at the Blackzillians camp as if he had a fight scheduled..






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Wallass
8/28/12 4:05:07PM
I like Overeem against Cormier/ Mir winner or Stipe/Struve winner or........ Mark friggen Hunt!
hotrodttt
8/28/12 4:07:39PM

Posted by Wallass

I like Overeem against Cormier/ Mir winner or Stipe/Struve winner or........ Mark friggen Hunt!



It wasn't pretty last time he fought Hunt
DrivenDavies15
8/28/12 4:40:40PM
I just want to see him fight again already! Cormier vs The Reem would be freaking awesome.
jae_1833
8/28/12 6:23:49PM
Good....but a question for the PG: Did he really earn/deserve one?
sparky
8/28/12 6:31:02PM

Posted by jae_1833

Good....but a question for the PG: Did he really earn/deserve one?



He sure did in my opinion

WAR R33M
Manak
8/28/12 6:37:26PM

Posted by sparky


Posted by jae_1833

Good....but a question for the PG: Did he really earn/deserve one?



He sure did in my opinion

WAR R33M



if you look at the way they have given title shots in another division then yes, plus he has the K-1 GP n strikeforce belt so that helps. I'm just ready to see him fight
Twenty20Dollars
8/28/12 7:00:33PM
Why do I not believe this?

I feel like all I've heard from him is about a title shot and JDS.

I also don't know if he should be given a title shot after he returns after all the crap he pulled.

This isn't like he's coming off an injury that forced him out of the title fight ala Hendo.
armbar66j7
8/28/12 7:01:54PM
Overeem vs. Werdum 3...the second one was a lot closer than the first...and it would deffinetly decide the true #1 contender after dos santos/velaszquez
armbar66j7
8/28/12 7:04:14PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Why do I not believe this?

I feel like all I've heard from him is about a title shot and JDS.

I also don't know if he should be given a title shot after he returns after all the crap he pulled.

This isn't like he's coming off an injury that forced him out of the title fight ala Hendo.



yeah i mean in high school, if you fuck up or get suspened, you cant expect to play in the game on friday...i feel he needs to earn it back, we all no hes the #1 contender, but he blew it, and now hes paying for it
Bubbles
8/28/12 7:21:22PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars
I also don't know if he should be given a title shot after he returns after all the crap he pulled.

This isn't like he's coming off an injury that forced him out of the title fight ala Hendo.


in his last 4 fights, he retired a top 5 HW in Lesnar, beat a top 10 in Werdum (debatable win in some eyes), beat a top 10 HW in Rogers (according to some sites), and beat Duffee.

That's better than what any other HW has done recently that isn't scheduled to fight for the title. His next fight will be against another top 10 HW, and if he wins that you cannot deny him a title shot
Twenty20Dollars
8/28/12 8:33:10PM

Posted by Bubbles


Posted by Twenty20Dollars
I also don't know if he should be given a title shot after he returns after all the crap he pulled.

This isn't like he's coming off an injury that forced him out of the title fight ala Hendo.


in his last 4 fights, he retired a top 5 HW in Lesnar, beat a top 10 in Werdum (debatable win in some eyes), beat a top 10 HW in Rogers (according to some sites), and beat Duffee.

That's better than what any other HW has done recently that isn't scheduled to fight for the title. His next fight will be against another top 10 HW, and if he wins that you cannot deny him a title shot



Those last 4 don't strike me as anything special.

Duffee and Rogers were nothing much. Werdum fight wasn't much of a fight. And Lesnar was had already quit before he fought Lesnar.

But I agree that there really isn't anyone else at the moment unless you just throw someone in there. It seems the same situation for LHW and MW.

What I said might have been confusing. I meant, like when he returns from his suspension he shouldn't get a title shot right away. He should at least have to have a fight and win before a shot.
Sir_Karl
8/28/12 8:49:03PM
I could give two sh*ts what Overrated says or thinks. Personally I wish he would find a new vocation.
armbar66j7
8/28/12 9:56:02PM

Posted by Sir_Karl

I could give two sh*ts what Overrated says or thinks. Personally I wish he would find a new vocation.



Oh...right...cuz he didnt just get up one day and win the biggest kickboxing tournament in the world with little to no experience, while at the same time riding a pretty good win streak with about 90% being finished in the 1st round..., not to mention hes been fighting A to B level competion since he started his career

...na hes totally ovverated
postman
8/28/12 10:06:55PM

Posted by armbar66j7


Posted by Sir_Karl

I could give two sh*ts what Overrated says or thinks. Personally I wish he would find a new vocation.



Oh...right...cuz he didnt just get up one day and win the biggest kickboxing tournament in the world with little to no experience, while at the same time riding a pretty good win streak with about 90% being finished in the 1st round..., not to mention hes been fighting A to B level competion since he started his career

...na hes totally ovverated



Sir_Karl you just got served!
Bubbles
8/28/12 11:00:59PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars
Those last 4 don't strike me as anything special.

Duffee and Rogers were nothing much. Werdum fight wasn't much of a fight. And Lesnar was had already quit before he fought Lesnar.

But I agree that there really isn't anyone else at the moment unless you just throw someone in there. It seems the same situation for LHW and MW.

What I said might have been confusing. I meant, like when he returns from his suspension he shouldn't get a title shot right away. He should at least have to have a fight and win before a shot.


Duffee and Rogers I agree with, but Rogers was a ranked fighter. Werdum was on his back more often than not, but either way its still a win (just like Anderson dancing his way to a decision) and AO came to fight. Lesnar had a dumb gameplan and tried to strike with Overeem and got his ass kicked (well technically his kidney )

I agree that Overeem should have to win a fight once his suspension is over to face JDS/Velasquez winner, and the Struve/Miocic winner would give him another quality win if he wins.
Manak
8/28/12 11:31:49PM

Posted by postman


Posted by armbar66j7


Posted by Sir_Karl

I could give two sh*ts what Overrated says or thinks. Personally I wish he would find a new vocation.



Oh...right...cuz he didnt just get up one day and win the biggest kickboxing tournament in the world with little to no experience, while at the same time riding a pretty good win streak with about 90% being finished in the 1st round..., not to mention hes been fighting A to B level competion since he started his career

...na hes totally ovverated



Sir_Karl you just got served!



Lawyered!!!!
tcunningham
8/28/12 11:53:30PM

Posted by jae_1833

Good....but a question for the PG: Did he really earn/deserve one?



i think he does. and even if people think he doesnt deserve a shot after pissing hot, i still think that it needs to happen. he is to accomplished as a fighter not to fight for the belt. we need to see if he truly is the greatest HW (assuming he doesn't piss hot again.)
jae_1833
8/29/12 1:14:57AM
All of these answers are why I posed the question....I think the guy should have to suffer for his actions, but the suspension should be a part of that. Any fighter that serves a one year no fighting suspension should not get an immediate title shot imo....for one the ring rust is a factor and for two his wins have a black eye. I would say one solid win is definately called for.....I would agree with Cormier, Barnett, or even Cain, but not a third fight with Werdum.....that shit last time was downright painful to watch. One guy refusing to strike and the other refusing to grapple!
Cooler
8/29/12 1:34:10AM

Posted by jae_1833

Good....but a question for the PG: Did he really earn/deserve one?



If he wins his next fight, yes because like another guy said it will likely be against a top 10... But did he earn it before the positive test? that's debatable I can concur with those who disagree or agree. And if he would have beat JDS, then that helps his hypothetical case to whether he would have deserved it or not, if he got blasted in the first round, maybe not.
meier
8/29/12 2:22:22PM
Id say feed him browne or hunt or bigfoot
bigrand826
8/30/12 9:41:16AM
I am on the fence about Overeem. There's obviously the questions about how he's been able to get so big and how much that helped him as far as him MMA results (and K-1 for that matter).

I feel like there are some that overrate Overeem's striking and some that underrate his skills overall. As for the K-1 stuff and using that to justify labeling him as 'the best HW striker', I don't necessarily agree. Yes, he's done well against the top names (2-0 against Aerts, 1-1 against Hari, 0-1 against Bonjasky), but his 2010 World GP win wasn't all it was cracked up to be. First, Hari and Bonjasky didn't participate, and second, he didn't have to face Semmy due to Aerts pulling the upset in a war. Aerts was 40+ at the time and had just come off that brutal fight with Semmy earlier that same night and Overeem took advantage. Also, Overeem got an injured Saki in the semis. I think it is also worth mentioning that Overeem was the larger fighter in every single match and was able to use his large arms and large gloves to have an effective high guard. He would walk guys down and throw almost exclusively power shots that the smaller guys just couldn't handle, for the most part. Now, I'm not crapping on his accomplishment, just trying to provide some perspective that I think some miss. Overeem did win the 2010 K-1 World GP and took 3rd the year before (getting beat by Hari in the semis).

Now, on the other side, I hear a lot of people saying that Overeem was a bum of LHW, which is not true. He didn't have a great record, but he faced nearly all the top LHWs in PRIDE and was highly competitive in nearly all of them, just ended up losing to most. He was doing pretty well in most of those fights, but they found his chin. It was harder for the K-1 guys to find his chin because of the gloves. I think some of this was shown in the second Werdum fight. Werdum was able to penetrate Overeem's guard with straight punches when he threw.

As far as what should happen when he comes back, I agree that he should have to beat someone rather than just getting a title shot immediately after serving his suspension.
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