Aldo vs Mendes

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KungFuMaster
1/11/12 4:44:46PM
I know you guys don't like discussing fights in the open forum but this fight is very intriguing to me and I would like to hear a few of your thoughts regarding the fight.

The popular opinion is Aldo will win but the more I think about this fight, the more I tend to want to change my pick to Mendes.

Hominick is not a take down specialist and he was able to take Aldo down in the late rounds. I just have this gut feeling Mendes may pull out the upset on this one. His cardio is great. His wrestling is top notch. We all know Mendes has not defeated any big names yet and this is the biggest test of his career. I would have liked for him to fight one or two big names or top contenders before going in to face Aldo but I guess the 145 division is running out of options.

I know there is a lot at stake between fight camps but please - indulge me.
emfleek
1/11/12 4:48:34PM


Kpro
1/11/12 5:00:53PM
If you're thinking about changing to Mendes then def do it, he's still got an Underdog Bonus by a few %.
Chael_Sonnen
1/11/12 5:07:37PM
$$$$ Mendes $$$$ = UD
KungFuMaster
1/11/12 5:35:04PM

Posted by Kpro

If you're thinking about changing to Mendes then def do it, he's still got an Underdog Bonus by a few %.



I may just do that...

Let's see how I feel tomorrow.
DosBox
1/11/12 5:44:14PM
For me, I wonder how well Mendes could do at pushing Aldo against the fence for the first few rounds and make it real physical/grinding early. Then take advantage of the takedowns late. Depending on how disciplined I feel Mendes approach is, I would consider taking Mendes for the win.

I think by being a little conservative in previous fights shows that he is at least disciplined at following a fairly strict gameplan, so I really am thinking about the Mendes in overall wrestling approach (clinch wrestling and takedown wrestling) in the fight. Its just that Aldo is so dynamic that 25 minutes is easily enough time for him to deliver some damage to Mendes.
KungFuMaster
1/11/12 6:04:11PM

Posted by DosBox

For me, I wonder how well Mendes could do at pushing Aldo against the fence for the first few rounds and make it real physical/grinding early. Then take advantage of the takedowns late. Depending on how disciplined I feel Mendes approach is, I would consider taking Mendes for the win.

I think by being a little conservative in previous fights shows that he is at least disciplined at following a fairly strict gameplan, so I really am thinking about the Mendes in overall wrestling approach (clinch wrestling and takedown wrestling) in the fight. Its just that Aldo is so dynamic that 25 minutes is easily enough time for him to deliver some damage to Mendes.



I agree. If Mendes can minimize the damage he receives in the first two rounds, he has a huge opportunity to score big in the later rounds.
FastKnockout
1/11/12 6:38:40PM
I'm sticking with Aldo. He's just one of those guys like Silva and Jones I don't feel safe picking against until he loses. BUT, if anyone can defeat Aldo anytime soon, it's Mendes. Aldo's cardio has worried me lately, and he's mentioned it's getting harder for him to cut weight. Mendes has explosive wrestling where he uses constant pressure on his opponents, and it's the type of wrestling which wears opponents down. If Aldo's not careful, Mendes could steal rounds and earn the decision Edgar/Penn style.

Another way to look at is think of Mendes as Aldo's personal Chael Sonnen. Not many people expected Sonnen to do what he did against Silva until he actually did it.
shaneTpain
1/11/12 7:40:25PM

Posted by FastKnockout

Another way to look at is think of Mendes as Aldo's personal Chael Sonnen. Not many people expected Sonnen to do what he did against Silva until he actually did it.





Mendes is gonna give Aldo a war but hes not gonna win it
Chael_Sonnen
1/11/12 8:55:33PM

Posted by shaneTpain


Posted by FastKnockout

Another way to look at is think of Mendes as Aldo's personal Chael Sonnen. Not many people expected Sonnen to do what he did against Silva until he actually did it.





JOZAAY is gonna give $$$ Money $$$ a war but hes not gonna win it

KungFuMaster
1/11/12 9:39:57PM
Faber, Brown, and Mendes all have good wrestling backgrounds but what will set Mendes apart from Faber and Brown is Mendes' youth. I am officially changing my pick to Mendes and relying on his youth and wrestling to do what the other two wrestlers could not do.

ncordless
1/11/12 11:52:38PM
Aldo's gonna get the KO here. Mendes does not have enough of a stand up game to make it interesting. Aldo has defended 95% of all takedown attempts. Mendes is an outstanding wrestler, but he is still getting some bad habits, including diving into knees when he shoots. My guess he dives into a knee by Aldo, and that will be the end of the night.

Either that or Aldo via triple flying knee to bicycle kick combo.
tcunningham
1/12/12 12:04:06AM
mendes is the very best wrestler int the 145lb division plus he's got savage GnP. his stand up is not as good as aldo's but he's not a stand up fighter. he's the chael sonnen of the 145 div. he's got relentless cardio and has heavy hands in the stand up. aldo's last few fights have not been as impressive as his WEC days. im going with mendes by slit or UD. it time for the end of the aldo era.
KungFuMaster
1/12/12 12:08:31AM

Posted by ncordless

Aldo's gonna get the KO here. Mendes does not have enough of a stand up game to make it interesting. Aldo has defended 95% of all takedown attempts. Mendes is an outstanding wrestler, but he is still getting some bad habits, including diving into knees when he shoots. My guess he dives into a knee by Aldo, and that will be the end of the night.

Either that or Aldo via triple flying knee to bicycle kick combo.



I can see that happening. I can also see Mendes surviving the first two rounds and scoring big in the later rounds. My biggest dilemma is the fact I have not seen Mendes fight anybody with really good stand ups before which makes this pick very difficult. I should not go against the grain - going against the grain has earned me my outstanding record of 107-100.

Faber was fast and strong and he couldn't do it.
Brown was slower but stronger and he couldn't it.
Mendes is a combination of the two, let's see if he can do it.

But anyway, I think I'll go with the grain on this one. Changing back to Aldo.
UFC_Fanatic
1/12/12 4:15:02AM

Posted by KungFuMaster


Posted by ncordless

Aldo's gonna get the KO here. Mendes does not have enough of a stand up game to make it interesting. Aldo has defended 95% of all takedown attempts. Mendes is an outstanding wrestler, but he is still getting some bad habits, including diving into knees when he shoots. My guess he dives into a knee by Aldo, and that will be the end of the night.

Either that or Aldo via triple flying knee to bicycle kick combo.



I can see that happening. I can also see Mendes surviving the first two rounds and scoring big in the later rounds. My biggest dilemma is the fact I have not seen Mendes fight anybody with really good stand ups before which makes this pick very difficult. I should not go against the grain - going against the grain has earned me my outstanding record of 107-100.

Faber was fast and strong and he couldn't do it.
Brown was slower but stronger and he couldn't it.
Mendes is a combination of the two, let's see if he can do it.

But anyway, I think I'll go with the grain on this one. Changing back to Aldo.



That's probably the right way of looking at it. The way I see it, stylistically, Mendes is more or less a bigger version of faber that's more naturally suited for 145, but is probably slightly slower than faber, but its really hard to tell because all those Team Alpha Male guys are lightning quick. But being that Faber couldn't do anything but get his leg kicked off for 5 rounds, I don't see Mendes able to generate much more offense, given that, like I mentioned before, he is pretty much a carbon copy of Faber, only he is in a body more naturally suited for 145.
kingsmasher
1/12/12 11:20:04AM
After hearing Mendes comments I am more supportive of Mendes...

He said what I said...Imagine that....All teh people who fight Aldo fight an Aldo fight stand in front of him and let him pick him apart....

Im sorry but liek pple here are saying if Mendes clinches with Aldo for the first 2 rounds I think he will wear Aldo down where Aldo will be lacking any significant power....

I see this fight like I picked Chandler over Alvarez...I think Mendes is gonna connect on an exchange in the third...and then sub Jose...

If this fight was in America I woudl bet money...Its hard for me to really think though an American can go down to Brazil and beat Jose...Might see a funky decision...
Pookie
1/12/12 11:06:48PM
Hominick was able to control a dehydrated and injured Jose Aldo for the last half of the last round. And could do almost nothing on the feet.

I think Hominick had something going for him that Mendes doesnt. And that's that he has good striking. Striking to gameplan around. Concentrating on the striking was part of the reason he got taken down IMO.

With Mendes you know right from the get go what his strategy is. I think Aldo concentrated most of his tactics this training camp, into sprawl and brawl. If maynard had a tough time taking Mendes down before he was peeking, i just have my doubts that Mendes is really going to be that effective.

Jose Aldo, tko via Crouching Fireball
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