Posted by KungFuMaster
Posted by prophecy033
Well put KFM, good case for Lee. I have an issue with one thing tho. You seem to disregard Sly's impact on American cinema and the people that watch his films. For a lot of us, Stallone is THE' action start of our youth. His embodiment of the underdog in rock speaks to all the underdogs in life, his determination in Rambo speaks to all of us that strive to preserver. Just like Lee, Stallone's legacy will live on
I wonder if he hadn't died young, would people still hold Lee in such high regard.
Stallone made great movies which touched our hearts but Lee tied the knots between the East and the West. Lee married an American woman. He was doing things which were well ahead of his time.
Producers will continue to make great movies which will touch our hearts but will there be another Bruce Lee?
In all seriousness, one cannot compare the two. They are different and great in their own ways but if you ask me who has made the greater impact on people's lives....I would say Bruce Lee and IMO it is unquestionable. Bruce touched more hearts and his impact on planet earth was astronomical. Millions of people still visit his tomb-stone to this day if that is any indication at all of what kind of impact Bruce Lee had on the good people of planet Earth. The man was not just a movie star. He was a symbol of hope and inspiration and if I was literally talking to you right now, I may even shed a tear (In-fact, I am tearing right now just talking about him).
I am going to ask you a question. Will you take time out of your life to visit Stallone's grave?
I know you like Stallone and I like him too but if you are comparing the impact Stallone has made on people against Lee's, I would have to urge you and persuade you to come to the other side.
But if you are comparing the two - based on what they have done in the movie business, Stallone will have a strangle-hold on that category IMO - but even some will give good cases for Lee as well.
What Lee did in 10 years was more than what most people could do in a lifetime. And I will commend you for one thought. Had Lee lived a full life, maybe his legacy would not have resounded across the halls of planet Earth like it did.........................But you know what>>>>>most great men do not live a full life. They are usually ahead of their time as in the cases of Socrates and many more who challenged the current thought - only to be shunned and reduced to a mad man.
Bruce Lee challenged the current thought by wanting to be a star in American films which was unheard of in his time, by teaching Wing Chun to his fellow Americans even though it was against Chinese regulations, by marrying an American woman, by pushing the body to its limits and by respecting all forms of martial arts and combining them to form what we now call mixed martial arts.
Bruce Lee's life is an inspiration which is why he is one of my heroes .....and in that regard, you cannot ask me to compare him to Stallone.
This is actually a bittersweet debate for me, if it was anyone other than Stallone I. the finals, I would be justifying Lee's impact. No man other than Jackie Robinson has bridge the Racial barrier better than Bruce Lee. Although he wasn't the first to marry a American women, his doing so was the most significant. I feel that people visit his grave as much for his mysterious death an the lore that surrounds him (much like James Dean, Jim Morrison, Janis joplin, Kurt Cobain, and the others who died young or mysteriously) as for his impact on their lives. I remember when Cobain died and all the girls around my age were devastated when they heard. Crying and sobing for weeks was not unheard of. I can only imaging the feelings running through the world when Lee died. He was loved by the world for his kind heart and dedication to making the world a better place
Most ethnic groups find a person that best represents them. Asian-american had Bruce Lee, and more recently Jackie Chan and Jet Lei, Italian-Americans had Joe Dimaggio and later Sly, African Americans had Jackie Robinson and Joe Louise with 2pac carrying the torch until his early death.Young America had guys that were just like them in James Dean, Marlon Brando, and later with the likes of Kurt Cobain. We all have the people were look up to like demi-gods. Stallone, Arnold and JCVD were those to me growing up on in the Pacific Northwest.
I may never go to stallones grave, but i'll probably never go to Bruce Lee's either. I would, however, go to James Deans, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennons and 2pac's. Lee, at the time of his death was representing a whole race of people, and he did it better then almost anyone in history. America has SO many people to latch onto that it is hard to find any one person who captivates as many people as Lee. Stallone may be that person that comes closest in the modern age. His career has spanned a few decades now, with kids from the 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's and now being able to see NEW movies of his. Lee never had that chance and neither did James Dean. But yet those guys are still equally relevant today as they were then. And that's a testament to the lasting impression they left on this planet.
I couldn't think of a better matchup then this on, from a pure action star position, to the impact on society. But like you said, they are completely different. To accurately compare, they would both have to have done the exact same things at the exact same time. That is the only way to truly compare the two.
so you don't need to plead with me to come to your way of thinking. I already admire Lee for everything he was, on and off screen. It's just Stallone is my Action Star. He has stood the test of time, and is still going strong after almost 30 years