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Shawn91111
10/28/12 10:42:53AM
When Martin is healthy he is one of the better shooting guards in the league. Can score on anybody from anywhere. But he is just never healthy
george112
10/28/12 10:48:07AM
I agree^^


He is arguably the best guy at drawing And1's

Looks like he bulked up a little this season too. We here in Houston will miss him.


I'm a fan of Harden though.


Were still waiting on our superstar.......
Shawn91111
10/28/12 10:52:10AM

Posted by Bubbles

I'm clearly not old enough to have watched most of them and I am a bit biased as Kidd is my favourite player, but he has to be considered top 5 at the very least. Sure he didn't score 20 ppg, but he was one of the best all around players in the game. He routinely led his team in rebounding and had better rpg than most PFs in the league. He's a phenomenal passer, great leader and has a very high basketball IQ...add in his stellar defensive play and clutch 3 point shooting and you have one of the best 5-tool players in NBA history. His 107 career triple doubles, 9 defensive team selections, 2nd all time in total assists and steals, 3rd all time in total 3pt made

He may not have all the individual awards and only 1 NBA title but he took a very young Nets team to back-to-back Championships (losing to the Lakers and Spurs...two of the best dynasties in the last 20 years) after the team was a cellar dweller. He also got screwed out of the MVP in 01/02

That's my rant on Jason Kidd, hope it changed your mind




Kidd is not a top 5 pg all time. Top 10 ok but top 5 is tough to crack and no way
prophecy033
10/31/12 1:23:40AM
I can't fucking stand Pau Gasol. That guy whines so damn much and on every play that he has the ball he cries out like hes being gang raped. Its basically flopping because it influences the officials to make a call and when he doesnt get it he bitches to the refs.

Howard is still and will always BLOW shooting free throws.He fouled out in his first game with 19 pts and 10 rebs but was 3/14 from the frer throw line.

Nash looked old tonight. His shot wasn't falling and he wasn't really on his game. Things will get better with time.
It pains me to see such a good guy go to the Lakers. Its like your favorite action hero going to the dark side

Artest is still bat shit crazy....nuff said

Damn glad the Lakers went down on opening night. Only problem is they will probably be ready for my Blazers and Howard will go 10/12 from the stripe

Bubbles
10/31/12 11:00:37AM
I fail to understand how anyone can be worse than 60% for a season from the charity stripe. From elementary school ball, free throws are drilled into you. High school even more so. He now practices daily, has a specialized coach and still can't hit it? Someone explain this to me. Either he is completely stupid or he never practices it at all. I haven't shot a basketball in 2 years and I can still have a better %.

No Kaman + no Dirk vs stacked Lakers team = Mavs win??? lmao I wish I watched more than the 1st quarter. Personally I hope Nash blows this year. He's over-hyped and I hate the Lakers so I want them both to fail.

I wish Boston was able to maintain that 4th quarter surge to go from 16 down to only 4. Does Jeff Green really make them that much worse defensively? Maybe with the additions of Barbosa, Lee and Terry they will be a little more offensive minded, but they need to get a legit defensive C. Camby or Dalembert would have been ideal to fit their system, give a legit backup to spell KG, and not allow guys like Lebron and Wade to slash all game long. Boston will still finish top 4 but I hope they play much better defense.
Bubbles
10/31/12 12:13:15PM
I was just offered Lebron + Monroe + Klay Thompson for my Harden + Granger + Calderon

My Team (autodrafted + 3 waiver pickups):
PG: Deron, Nash, Calderon
SG: Ben Gordon
PG/SG: Lou Williams
SG/SF: Harden, Ginobli, Matthews
SF: Pierce
SF/PF: Granger
PF/C: Varajao, Vucevic, Tristan and Jason Thompson
C: McGee, Asik

I think giving up both Harden and Granger (both star players on their team) isn't worth Lebron + Monroe. Calderon < Thompson but not by much imo...but around trade deadline time, Calderon will move somewhere much better for him. I'm thinking about countering with him giving me Bargnani and I give him Jason Thompson in addition to his offer or he substitutes Monroe for Horford. What do you guys think?
BuffaloDave
10/31/12 12:25:42PM

Posted by Bubbles

I was just offered Lebron + Monroe + Klay Thompson for my Harden + Granger + Calderon

My Team (autodrafted + 3 waiver pickups):
PG: Deron, Nash, Calderon
SG: Ben Gordon
PG/SG: Lou Williams
SG/SF: Harden, Ginobli, Matthews
SF: Pierce
SF/PF: Granger
PF/C: Varajao, Vucevic, Tristan and Jason Thompson
C: McGee, Asik

I think giving up both Harden and Granger (both star players on their team) isn't worth Lebron + Monroe. Calderon < Thompson but not by much imo...but around trade deadline time, Calderon will move somewhere much better for him. I'm thinking about countering with him giving me Bargnani and I give him Jason Thompson in addition to his offer or he substitutes Monroe for Horford. What do you guys think?



I'm not sure the person would go for any of your counter offers, but I would try adding the Barg for Thomp though.


I also thought it was funny that the Lakers lost to a Dirkless Mavs team. If Howard new how to hit free throws, they probably could have won the game.

Ray Allen throwing down on his former team on opening night
kopower
10/31/12 3:21:59PM
Just read this article regarding the "whiteness" of the MN Timberwolves.

Link

Apparently, a civil rights activist is pissed becasue he belives there aren't enough black players on the T-Wolves roster.

5-15 are black, and another 5 are from foreign countries. I just don't get people sometimes. He thinks the wolves did this on purpose, as to gain back fans. He failed to comment on the wolves trying to land 2 big free agents that were black, in Batum and Jordan Hill.
Budgellism
10/31/12 3:49:06PM
So... The Raptors are going to start the season 1-0 against the Pacers tonight

Just thought I'd throw that out there.
prophecy033
10/31/12 4:26:59PM

Posted by kopower

Just read this article regarding the "whiteness" of the MN Timberwolves.

Link

Apparently, a civil rights activist is pissed becasue he belives there aren't enough black players on the T-Wolves roster.

5-15 are black, and another 5 are from foreign countries. I just don't get people sometimes. He thinks the wolves did this on purpose, as to gain back fans. He failed to comment on the wolves trying to land 2 big free agents that were black, in Batum and Jordan Hill.

I heard that. WTF is dude taljing about? Should we get a white guy to question all the other teams for not having enough white players?
Bubbles
10/31/12 5:20:38PM

Posted by prophecy033


Posted by kopower

Just read this article regarding the "whiteness" of the MN Timberwolves.

Link

Apparently, a civil rights activist is pissed becasue he belives there aren't enough black players on the T-Wolves roster.

5-15 are black, and another 5 are from foreign countries. I just don't get people sometimes. He thinks the wolves did this on purpose, as to gain back fans. He failed to comment on the wolves trying to land 2 big free agents that were black, in Batum and Jordan Hill.

I heard that. WTF is dude taljing about? Should we get a white guy to question all the other teams for not having enough white players?


a few years ago, Sam Mitchell (a black coach) had 5 white guys on the floor at one time for the Raptors. I don't recall a backlash everytime this happened
george112
10/31/12 7:57:28PM
Harden and Lin are looking pretty good right now playing together
Budgellism
10/31/12 9:17:07PM
Picking up Kyle Lowry is the best move Toronto's made in a while. Great game against the Pacers so far. Calderon and Lowry look great on the floor together.

On a side note though, the refs have been absolute garbage this game.
george112
10/31/12 9:30:53PM

Posted by Budgellism

Picking up Kyle Lowry is the best move Toronto's made in a while. Great game against the Pacers so far. Calderon and Lowry look great on the floor together.

On a side note though, the refs have been absolute garbage this game.



Lowry is a beast. I was truly disappointed to see him go. Glad to hear he is playing well
Budgellism
10/31/12 9:38:59PM

Posted by Budgellism

Picking up Kyle Lowry is the best move Toronto's made in a while. Great game against the Pacers so far. Calderon and Lowry look great on the floor together.

On a side note though, the refs have been absolute garbage this game.



It may be a new Toronto team but they stay true to their roots and blow it with less than a minute to go.

That last 60 seconds was hard to watch after seeing them play so well
Budgellism
10/31/12 9:42:36PM

Posted by george112

Harden and Lin are looking pretty good right now playing together



Harden is kicking some serious ass on that court tonight. Great way to debut with a new team. OKC is going to miss that guy.
george112
10/31/12 9:44:26PM

Posted by Budgellism


Posted by george112

Harden and Lin are looking pretty good right now playing together



Harden is kicking some serious ass on that court tonight. Great way to debut with a new team. OKC is going to miss that guy.



Hell yes. One of the best debuts I've ever seen. Is totally living up to the hype right now
Bubbles
10/31/12 10:04:04PM

Posted by Budgellism


Posted by Budgellism

Picking up Kyle Lowry is the best move Toronto's made in a while. Great game against the Pacers so far. Calderon and Lowry look great on the floor together.

On a side note though, the refs have been absolute garbage this game.



It may be a new Toronto team but they stay true to their roots and blow it with less than a minute to go.

That last 60 seconds was hard to watch after seeing them play so well


they should have won the game. A lot of shitty calls went against them, but missing their last 5 shots didn't help either.

I liked what I saw from them tonight. Valenciunas looks to be the real deal. Lowry was aggressive, and both he and Calderon on the floor at the same time played a great transition game. I liked the defensive intensity, but they need to work on help down low off a screen...too many easy buckets. B+ grade for opening night

DeRozan signed a 4 year $40 mil extension He has not shown us anything to be worthy of $10 mil a season, way overpaid imo
Bubbles
10/31/12 10:05:36PM

Posted by george112


Posted by Budgellism


Posted by george112

Harden and Lin are looking pretty good right now playing together



Harden is kicking some serious ass on that court tonight. Great way to debut with a new team. OKC is going to miss that guy.



Hell yes. One of the best debuts I've ever seen. Is totally living up to the hype right now


Maybe I shouldn't trade him in a Lebron deal
Budgellism
10/31/12 10:29:32PM

Posted by Bubbles


Posted by Budgellism


Posted by Budgellism

Picking up Kyle Lowry is the best move Toronto's made in a while. Great game against the Pacers so far. Calderon and Lowry look great on the floor together.

On a side note though, the refs have been absolute garbage this game.



It may be a new Toronto team but they stay true to their roots and blow it with less than a minute to go.

That last 60 seconds was hard to watch after seeing them play so well


they should have won the game. A lot of shitty calls went against them, but missing their last 5 shots didn't help either.

I liked what I saw from them tonight. Valenciunas looks to be the real deal. Lowry was aggressive, and both he and Calderon on the floor at the same time played a great transition game. I liked the defensive intensity, but they need to work on help down low off a screen...too many easy buckets. B+ grade for opening night

DeRozan signed a 4 year $40 mil extension He has not shown us anything to be worthy of $10 mil a season, way overpaid imo



I agree. He's not worth 10 mil a year by any means. He really needs to step his game up this year.
ChrisSabal
10/31/12 10:55:27PM
Bulls get the win. 1-0 in the era of no Rose!
prophecy033
11/1/12 12:08:32AM
Steve Nash already hurt 2 games into the season. His age is starting to show
Ordep
11/1/12 1:12:24AM


Every time I see Chris Paul (or Deron Williams) all I think about is Marvin Williams and WTF were the Hawks thinking when they drafted in '05.
prophecy033
11/1/12 1:14:59AM
I think we have something special here in Portland. His name is Damian Lillard. 23 points 11 assists 3 rebounds 1 steal in his first game.....against the Lakers

1 of only 3 rookies to ever have 20 pts and 10 assists in their first game (Oscar Robertson and Isaiah Thomas)
prophecy033
11/1/12 1:16:41AM

Posted by Ordep



Every time I see Chris Paul (or Deron Williams) all I think about is Marvin Williams and WTF were the Hawks thinking when they drafted in '05.

i wonder what the fuck PORTLAND was thinking in that same draft when we traded down so we could draft Martell Webster instead of Chris Paul
Bubbles
11/1/12 9:04:36AM

Posted by prophecy033


Posted by Ordep



Every time I see Chris Paul (or Deron Williams) all I think about is Marvin Williams and WTF were the Hawks thinking when they drafted in '05.

i wonder what the fuck PORTLAND was thinking in that same draft when we traded down so we could draft Martell Webster instead of Chris Paul


I wonder what the fuck TORONTO was thinking drafting Charlie Villanueva instead of Bynum and Joey Graham instead of Granger
Bubbles
11/1/12 9:08:08AM

Posted by prophecy033

Steve Nash already hurt 2 games into the season. His age is starting to show


slowed down system = Nash's true colours. In a system where it isn't 100% offense he is just above average and even worse defensively. I'm happy the Lakers are 0-2
thevoodooninja
11/1/12 9:33:44AM
Cavs looked pretty good in their season opener or maybe wasington sucks, either way I'm glad they won
Bubbles
11/1/12 11:26:52AM
george112
11/1/12 1:06:44PM

Posted by Bubbles

Jeremy Lin is a bad teammate



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