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telnights
11/21/10 12:23:40AM
Machida looks like he doesn't want to engage at all with his hands.
ncordless
11/21/10 12:23:43AM

Posted by Aether

1 round each?



Hard to call. . . maybe 2 for Rampage.
gartface
11/21/10 12:23:57AM

Posted by AchillesHeel

Wow, tough rounds to score. I have no idea.


I don't envy these judges in the least.
Aether
11/21/10 12:26:27AM
I gave the first to rampage and the second to machida. Looking like Machida will take the 3rd.
Twenty20Dollars
11/21/10 12:27:14AM
Junkie has it 1 to machida 2 to rampage.
AchillesHeel
11/21/10 12:29:19AM
That's a strong dude, just stood up out of that arm-bar. Machida had to let it go or he was going for a ride.
AchillesHeel
11/21/10 12:30:56AM
We really need two more rounds.
ncordless
11/21/10 12:31:28AM
Ouch. . . that hurt my night.

Best Rampage we have seen in years.
telnights
11/21/10 12:31:50AM
I don't feel he won that fight. I had it 1st and 3rd for Machida and 2nd for Rampage.
Twenty20Dollars
11/21/10 12:32:28AM
Take that macheeto
AchillesHeel
11/21/10 12:32:39AM

Posted by ncordless

Best Rampage we have seen in years.


Yeah, I'm surprised Rampage won a decision. I figured it would be Rampage by TKO or Machida by decision.
ncordless
11/21/10 12:33:17AM
1 and 2 could have reasonably gone either way. . . 3 was all Machida
gartface
11/21/10 12:34:21AM
Quinton with the really classy interview. Can't knock him at all for that.
Pookie
11/21/10 12:35:12AM
I had it 29-28 rampage.
ncordless
11/21/10 12:35:59AM
Sweet, we get to see Barboza.

A 30-29 scorecard would best reflect the Rampage/Machida fight. 10-10 rounds are not always a bad thing.
Kpro
11/21/10 12:36:22AM

Posted by telnights

I don't feel he won that fight. I had it 1st and 3rd for Machida and 2nd for Rampage.



I had the same and didn't think it was that hard to decide. Definite shock to me when they announced the winner.
gartface
11/21/10 12:36:30AM

Posted by ncordless

1 and 2 could have reasonably gone either way. . . 3 was all Machida


Exactly why I can't be mad at it. You nailed it.
AchillesHeel
11/21/10 12:40:48AM

Posted by ncordless

1 and 2 could have reasonably gone either way. . . 3 was all Machida



Posted by ncordless

A 30-29 scorecard would best reflect the Rampage/Machida fight. 10-10 rounds are not always a bad thing.


I agree.
ncordless
11/21/10 12:41:52AM
I think Lullo should get another shot for being close to a gogo
Kpro
11/21/10 12:45:26AM
So after 10 minutes, 2 judges had Machida needing a finish to have any chance of winning and one judge had it tied.

<--------Doesn't buy it at all.
ncordless
11/21/10 12:45:59AM
This is like watching Jose Aldo without a ground game.
Shawn91111
11/21/10 12:48:28AM
Had first 2 rounds to Rampage and 3rd to Machida.
telnights
11/21/10 12:49:38AM
Nice job by Barbosa. He is going to be tough fight for anyone who tries to stand with him.
ncordless
11/21/10 12:49:58AM

Posted by Kpro

So after 10 minutes, 2 judges had Machida needing a finish to have any chance of winning and one judge had it tied.

<--------Doesn't buy it at all.



What did Machida do to clearly win rnd 1or 2?
Kpro
11/21/10 12:52:03AM

Posted by ncordless

What did Machida do to clearly win rnd 1or 2?



Really? Did you give Jackson Round 1 ?
ncordless
11/21/10 12:55:19AM

Posted by Kpro


Posted by ncordless

What did Machida do to clearly win rnd 1or 2?



Really? Did you give Jackson Round 1 ?



I thought it was a close round, but if I had to chose I'd say Rampage landed the more meaningful offense.
Kpro
11/21/10 12:56:58AM

Posted by ncordless


Posted by Kpro


Posted by ncordless

What did Machida do to clearly win rnd 1or 2?



Really? Did you give Jackson Round 1 ?



I thought it was a close round, but if I had to chose I'd say Rampage landed the more meaningful offense.



Well between you and Rampage, that makes 1 of you that thinks he won the fight.
Shawn91111
11/21/10 1:02:53AM

Posted by ncordless


Posted by Kpro


Posted by ncordless

What did Machida do to clearly win rnd 1or 2?



Really? Did you give Jackson Round 1 ?



I thought it was a close round, but if I had to chose I'd say Rampage landed the more meaningful offense.



I agree with this. What did Machida do to win that round
sbulldavid
11/21/10 1:03:02AM
I had it 29-28 Page, round 1 Jackson did more damage in the clinch, round 2 he stole with the takedown, and the third was Machida's without a doubt. Close fight, but Rampage deserved the first two rounds, remember the judging criteria for Shogun/Machida 1, leg kicks are ineffective striking, Lol !
ncordless
11/21/10 1:04:11AM

Posted by Kpro


Posted by ncordless


Posted by Kpro


Posted by ncordless

What did Machida do to clearly win rnd 1or 2?



Really? Did you give Jackson Round 1 ?



I thought it was a close round, but if I had to chose I'd say Rampage landed the more meaningful offense.



Well between you and Rampage, that makes 1 of you that thinks he won the fight.



Like I said before, the most accurate 10-point-must scorecard of that fight would be 30-29 Machida. Or if you think Rampage did enough to distance himself from Machida in round 2, a 29-29 draw. Either one would have been a more accurate account of the action than a 29-28 either way.

Given that judges don't give enough 10-10 rounds in mma, I could tell that the first two rounds could go either way, and that since Rampage was the one hunting down Machida and landing punces vs. Machida's leg kicks, I felt that the judges would probably give the first two rounds to Rampage.

. . . and I am not really worried about not agreeing with Rampage. . . he will always hold a special place in my heart as a fighter, but a smart man he is not.
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