UFC's Michael Bisping wants rematch with 'f---ing cheat' Vitor Belfort

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prophecy033
2/15/13 4:22:18PM
Michael Bisping said it's a "touchy subject" to talk about Vitor Belfort and the permission he received to use testosterone-replacement therapy for their recent fight

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Bubbles
2/15/13 4:30:16PM
before people start the hate train again without actually reading the article:


"He's been busted for that in the past, and now he's allowed to put steroids into his a--hole," Bisping said. "What can I say? He's a f---ing cheat. But I do want a rematch with the guy."
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"The referee stopped the fight," he said. "Fair play to him, congratulations. He was the better man on the night. But I was completely fine went I went down, and I think the referee stopped too soon, and I'd love a rematch someday."
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Bisping, meanwhile, has decided he won't take a stand against the use of TRT, which remains one of the more controversial topics in MMA.

"That's the way it is," he said. "That's the way it's all set up. For me, I get my ass back in the gym, train my ass off and try and do what I can. I'm not going to stand there and debate the politics of it all."


he acknowledges he lost, that Vitor was the better fighter that night, and wants a rematch with Vitor down the line. As far as I know, once you get busted for roids/PED you cannot get a TUE so Bisping has a legit point
Theoutlaw08
2/15/13 4:30:22PM
Apparently Bisping wants to get dropped again. Im not sure how he can call him a cheat if it was approved. Too bad he won't get his rematch. Vitor has a fight scheduled already.
Poor_Franklin
2/15/13 5:06:58PM

Posted by Theoutlaw08

Apparently Bisping wants to get dropped again.



prozacnation1978
2/15/13 5:30:59PM
First he was okay with the loss
Fast forward a couple weeks and now he is pissed
Shawn91111
2/15/13 5:36:50PM
This is why Hendo's shot on Bisping with the flying hammer of doom was good, so Bisping wouldnt come back that the ref stopped it too soon.
prophecy033
2/15/13 5:41:25PM

Posted by Shawn91111

This is why Hendo's shot on Bisping with the flying hammer of doom was good, so Bisping wouldnt come back that the ref stopped it too soon.

they should have let Vitor pound on him some more
Goatenstein
2/15/13 5:46:43PM
I don't like Bisping and am even glad Vitor won, but I still think TUEs are bullshit especially for people who have tested positive for steroids in the past.
Chael_Sonnen
2/15/13 7:42:10PM
C'mon Mike....you've had PLENTY of time to get better material than that......#DISAPPOINTED.
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NE-1
2/15/13 8:06:39PM


he acknowledges he lost, that Vitor was the better fighter that night, and wants a rematch with Vitor down the line. As far as I know, once you get busted for roids/PED you cannot get a TUE so Bisping has a legit point


Yes he acknowledged that he lost, Vitor didn't beat him into a delusional psychosis. What was he going to do deny losing?

He also goes on to say that Vitor cheated and the ref stopped the fight too early. But vitor was better? Eh, sounds like excuses and sour grapes to me. I'm not surprised though. If you aren't humble in victory why expect him to be humble in defeat.
emfleek
2/15/13 8:30:12PM

Posted by Chael_Sonnen

C'mon Mike....you've had PLENTY of time to get better material than that......#DISAPPOINTED.



Irony.
Coolhand37
2/15/13 11:04:07PM
from what i hear dan was on trt when he fought bisping and fedor and jake shileds these guys either need to retire or stop chaeating fuck these guys!!
Shawn91111
2/15/13 11:27:58PM

Posted by Coolhand37

from what i hear dan was on trt when he fought bisping and fedor and jake shileds these guys either need to retire or stop chaeating fuck these guys!!



Not sure how Hendo is cheating if he is within the appropriate legal level
mrsmiley
2/15/13 11:44:27PM
TRT = the abortion topic of MMA.

What's legally acceptable versus what some find morally inacceptable.

If Dans in the legally accepted level of Test, then (correct me if i'm wrong) doesn't that mean that most athletes could reach those same levels naturally?
NE-1
2/15/13 11:45:24PM

Posted by Coolhand37

Your a twitt and u suck!! anybody that needs trt to be a professional athlete is obviously competing in the wrong sex classification, his levels were 12 to one so he needed a doctors note because he is a cheating bitch!! fuck him!!

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Travesty145
2/16/13 2:46:16AM
somebody needs to tell vitor to get a new pair of shorts. ewie
LightsOUT23
2/16/13 5:26:05AM

Posted by Travesty145

somebody needs to tell vitor to get a new pair of shorts. ewie



And tell him him that Synthetic Testosterone Replacement therapy is Cheating too !!!
Poor_Franklin
2/16/13 5:42:47AM

Posted by Coolhand37

Your a twitt and u suck!!



not exactly the best way to open an argument. everything you say after this doesnt even matter.
emfleek
2/16/13 7:52:26AM
This is the only instance in which I have a problem with TRT. An exemption shouldn't be granted to someone that's been popped for PED's in the past.

Bisping's not wrong, IMO.
emfleek
2/16/13 7:53:39AM

Posted by Coolhand37

Your a twitt and u suck!! anybody that needs trt to be a professional athlete is obviously competing in the wrong sex classification, his levels were 12 to one so he needed a doctors note because he is a cheating bitch!! fuck him!! bullshit!!!



Present your comments with maturity or don't present them at all.
40ouncetofreedom
2/16/13 8:39:55AM
TRT user 5 weeks in


T and PEDs differ in structure, biochemistry and use. The medical use of T is for men with testosterone deficiency, usually manifested by fatigue, diminished sex drive and a constellation of other symptoms. The goal of treatment is to improve symptoms by getting the testosterone into a normal range. There are a variety of means of testosterone replacement including gels, creams, trans-dermal patches, pellets and injections. All of these formulations are FDA approved and provide testosterone that is identical to that of the testosterone that is present in our bodies under normal circumstances. Testosterone levels are checked periodically to ensure that the testosterone is in the normal range.

PEDs are most often manufactured clandestinely at small labs to avoid FDA scrutiny; they are sometimes obtained through veterinarians, pharmacists or physicians, and are often procured on the black market. They are intended solely to build muscle mass, strength and improve athletic performance, so their use is beyond the domain of standard medical practice. PEDs favor anabolic (muscle building) over androgenic (pertaining to the development of male characteristics) effects.

The vast majority of the time, PEDs are provided illicitly by a trainer without special expertise in this area. The goal is a super-high testosterone level, often ten times or more than normal levels. Dopers often use the equivalent of 1000 mg or greater of T per week. PEDs are not the chemical equivalent of T and there is no medical monitoring of users. Popular PEDs include nandrolone and stanozolol, which were FDA approved years ago, but now have no medical indications. “Designer” PEDs are often concocted by modifying T; their advantage is that monitoring organizations lack the wherewithal to detect them because of their unique chemical formulations. The two common patterns of PED usage are stacking and cycling. Stacking is using two or more PEDs simultaneously whereas cycling is an on—off schedule of use.
tallica62
2/16/13 5:32:55PM
shut up bisping...with or without TRT, steroids, etc...you got ko'd...how bout a henderson rematch? i coul watch that alllll day
Boo_Radley21
2/16/13 7:33:51PM
Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest
Travesty145
2/17/13 12:39:22AM

Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin
moob
2/17/13 4:41:21AM
A lot of bizarre contradictory statements on here, but nothing new there.

The rules require to be tightened. People are getting away with using performance enhancing drugs which is destroying the sport.

Irrespective what fighter you like, hate, nut-hug, 'legal' use of steroids is fucking bullshit.
bjj1605
2/17/13 9:39:37PM

Posted by mrsmiley

TRT = the abortion topic of MMA.

What's legally acceptable versus what some find morally inacceptable.

If Dans in the legally accepted level of Test, then (correct me if i'm wrong) doesn't that mean that most athletes could reach those same levels naturally?



Not really, no. The allowed ratio is 3:1 whereas most men are 1:1.


Posted by Travesty145


Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin



Really? Lol.

Can't believe I just read that. Not only is it silly to talk about that now, since the fight was so many years ago, but there was nothing lucky about that fight. Tank was a can-crusher but Vitor is an elite fighter.
prophecy033
2/18/13 12:17:09AM

Posted by bjj1605


Posted by mrsmiley

TRT = the abortion topic of MMA.

What's legally acceptable versus what some find morally inacceptable.

If Dans in the legally accepted level of Test, then (correct me if i'm wrong) doesn't that mean that most athletes could reach those same levels naturally?



Not really, no. The allowed ratio is 3:1 whereas most men are 1:1.


Posted by Travesty145


Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin



Really? Lol.

Can't believe I just read that. Not only is it silly to talk about that now, since the fight was so many years ago, but there was nothing lucky about that fight. Tank was a can-crusher but Vitor is an elite fighter.

mrsmiley
2/18/13 11:48:03AM

Posted by bjj1605


Posted by mrsmiley

TRT = the abortion topic of MMA.

What's legally acceptable versus what some find morally inacceptable.

If Dans in the legally accepted level of Test, then (correct me if i'm wrong) doesn't that mean that most athletes could reach those same levels naturally?



Not really, no. The allowed ratio is 3:1 whereas most men are 1:1.


Posted by Travesty145


Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin



Really? Lol.

Can't believe I just read that. Not only is it silly to talk about that now, since the fight was so many years ago, but there was nothing lucky about that fight. Tank was a can-crusher but Vitor is an elite fighter.



So if the average is 1:1 then this becomes the moral issue verse the legal issue. For me personally, If I was a fighter I might just say If you can't beat em,join em, and sign up for TRT if I could, but I could very well see why for some that defeats the purpose.
If guys like Hendo and Chael are within the law,then I can't see solely pointing them out when so many others are busted taking illegal substances.

For me,when it comes to Bisping I can see his frustration but in all honesty,to me and others he's a very solid mid-tier fighter who on a good night could hold his own or possibly, by the slimmest hair take out a top name.
Even if Dan was on TRT in their fight that doesn't change the fact Mikey was walking right into Dans fist,which hendo made no point in hiding or setting up the entire time.
Bispings problem I think has more to do with strategy rather than the TRT his opponents are taking.

Tough subject for sure. I can see both sides but that's how I take it.
Travesty145
2/18/13 12:02:34PM

Posted by bjj1605


Posted by mrsmiley

TRT = the abortion topic of MMA.

What's legally acceptable versus what some find morally inacceptable.

If Dans in the legally accepted level of Test, then (correct me if i'm wrong) doesn't that mean that most athletes could reach those same levels naturally?



Not really, no. The allowed ratio is 3:1 whereas most men are 1:1.


Posted by Travesty145


Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin



Really? Lol.

Can't believe I just read that. Not only is it silly to talk about that now, since the fight was so many years ago, but there was nothing lucky about that fight. Tank was a can-crusher but Vitor is an elite fighter.



his return is coming. youll see. youll all see
40ouncetofreedom
2/18/13 1:53:35PM
Even if Bisping gets his re-match, What will be different ?

Vitor is still going to be using TRT.

People need to accept losing and dealing with their mediocrity a little better.
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