M-1 president, Vadim Finklestein once again offers co-promotion deal to UFC

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FastKnockout
2/2/13 3:12:17PM
M-1 president, Vadim Finklestein says the UFC won't go very far without their help and a co promotional deal.

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grappler0000
2/2/13 3:19:01PM
Really?!?
kopower
2/2/13 3:26:25PM
Budgellism
2/2/13 3:29:28PM

M-1 president, Vadim Finklestein says the UFC won't go very far without their help and a co promotional deal.


Wow, that might be one of the stupidest things I've ever read.
pmoney
2/2/13 3:32:27PM
I'm guessing this is what M-1 does when they need to remind people they exist.
george112
2/2/13 3:33:22PM
In all honesty I think he is partly right.

I said it in the other UFC in Russia thread that I don't think it would be very successful.

Russia isnt like other countries in that they are very....shit I dont even know a word to describe it. The best word(s) would be loyal I guess. Or maybe tight-knit. Connected maybe. Idk all I'm saying is that its not out of the realm of possibility if something were to go "wrong" .

I'd compare it to say a gang that goes into another rival gang's turf and throws a party at their HQ expecting both gangs to show up peacefully. Not gonna happen


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Seems I'm in the minority
jlock003
2/2/13 3:33:45PM
Vadim is either delusional or a genius. My money is on delusional. It could just be because of poor marketing in America but the only real m-1 guys I ever knew of on a regular basis were, Fedor, Gegard, and Vinny but Fedor retired, and Gegard and Vinny are both fighting in the UFC now. Beyond that the only reason I even knew Magalhaes fought for m-1 is because he put their belt on ebay.
grappler0000
2/2/13 3:47:23PM

Posted by george112

In all honesty I think he is partly right.

I said it in the other UFC in Russia thread that I don't think it would be very successful.

Russia isnt like other countries in that they are very....shit I dont even know a word to describe it. The best word(s) would be loyal I guess. Or maybe tight-knit. Connected maybe. Idk all I'm saying is that its not out of the realm of possibility if something were to go "wrong" .

I'd compare it to say a gang that goes into another rival gang's turf and throws a party at their HQ expecting both gangs to show up peacefully. Not gonna happen


EDIT

Seems I'm in the minority



There's no sugarcoating it...it's called the mob. They got into Japan though, despite the Yakuza, so I assume they can get into Russia as well. We'll see.
george112
2/2/13 4:00:01PM

Posted by grappler0000


Posted by george112

In all honesty I think he is partly right.

I said it in the other UFC in Russia thread that I don't think it would be very successful.

Russia isnt like other countries in that they are very....shit I dont even know a word to describe it. The best word(s) would be loyal I guess. Or maybe tight-knit. Connected maybe. Idk all I'm saying is that its not out of the realm of possibility if something were to go "wrong" .

I'd compare it to say a gang that goes into another rival gang's turf and throws a party at their HQ expecting both gangs to show up peacefully. Not gonna happen


EDIT

Seems I'm in the minority



There's no sugarcoating it...it's called the mob. They got into Japan though, despite the Yakuza, so I assume they can get into Russia as well. We'll see.



There you go the mob. Thats a good word to describe it. With Russia being as big as it is and the history with the U.S I just don't see how they would let themselves be one-upped by an American company in their own country. From my understanding MMA is pretty big in Russia. More so in the sense that Putin is interested and Fedor is like a national hero.

Idk just can't wait to see what happens
prozacnation1978
2/2/13 6:11:40PM
That's funny. Ufc doesnt need m-1 at all
cowcatcher
2/2/13 6:45:37PM
BeeR
2/2/13 8:18:41PM
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jay98107
2/2/13 9:04:59PM
What a friendly offer. In related news, my flag football league is offering to co-promote the super bowl with the NFL.
Bustamante-Aoki
2/3/13 1:51:03AM
M-1 was the reason Fedor vs Rogers had over 25 million viewers watching it live.

The UFC hasn't even come close to matching that.

With the UFC wanting to come to Russia, I bet Vadim could help them a lot.
FlashyG
2/3/13 2:21:51AM

Posted by Bustamante-Aoki

M-1 was the reason Fedor vs Rogers had over 25 million viewers watching it live.

The UFC hasn't even come close to matching that.

With the UFC wanting to come to Russia, I bet Vadim could help them a lot.



Those #'s are according to M1 and rank somewhere between highly debatable and downright laughable. For one they are including internet streams which can be manipulated by simply refreshing the page and 16 million of the alleged views apparently came from Russia for an event that started at around 5 AM there.

Even if they were true, it would be because of Fedor and nothing to do with M-1.

The UFC stands to gain nothing by co-promoting with any organization in the world now that they've solidified themselves as the king of the sport and M-1 isn't even worth their time now that Fedor is retired.



Bustamante-Aoki
2/3/13 4:26:04AM
Fedor is a co-owner of M-1. Fedor didn't secure the TV deal for M-1, or set up the streams. Obviously those views had something to do with M-1, and not just Fedor alone.

The Russians love Fedor. I don't doubt 16 million of them would watch live at 7-8 am. It was on the biggest TV network in Russia. And the 3rd biggest TV network in Korea. Vadim has connections. Does UFC even have a TV deal in Russia? Vadim is good friends with Vladimir Putin. He can make things happen. He knows how to garner media attention.

90 million Japanese fans watched Akebono vs Sapp in kickboxing.It's not hard to believe that Fedor could garner 16 million views in Russia. And Fedor is attached to M-1 and Vadim. Their support could do a lot for the UFC whether you want to admit or not.

Russian MMA fans don't love Dana and they don't think that Vadim is the crazy and corrupt one. They don't read western mma media sources that repeat whatever Dana says. Hockey is popular in Russia. The NHL is not. Because Russians don't buy into American propaganda, the cold war wasn't that long ago. And the term "superbowl of MMA" means nothing to them.

They don't need M-1 by any means, but M-1 can certainly help them.