UFC on FX 4 - Maynard vs. Guida - Results/Discussion (Spoilers)

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BeeR
6/22/12 11:22:04PM
maynard landed what, 12 punches the whole fight?
george112
6/22/12 11:22:18PM
Glad he won.

That running was a disgrace
kingsmasher
6/22/12 11:22:21PM
Thank you judges Guida ran that was a joke for MMA on Gudias part...that now will never be a gameplan
Twenty20Dollars
6/22/12 11:22:21PM
gray complains.......interesting
postman
6/22/12 11:23:01PM
Not sure I agree with the outcome or not but I'm glad Maynard gets the win. Clay wanted nothing to do with him.
kingsmasher
6/22/12 11:23:08PM
The crowd booed Clay...they needed to...
prophecy033
6/22/12 11:23:23PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Condit never got a warning and people complained their butts off about that fight.



Well it has to happen first then they know how to treat a runner

what?
Shawn91111
6/22/12 11:23:26PM
Belt back? Gray you never had the belt
kingsmasher
6/22/12 11:24:19PM

Posted by postman

Not sure I agree with the outcome or not but I'm glad Maynard gets the win. Clay wanted nothing to do with him.



Well now we should never see someone run in a fight and land two shots to steal a round...Now Greg jackson will have to re think the running gameplan...
Twenty20Dollars
6/22/12 11:24:21PM
Have anyone not seen a Guida fight before?

Maynard should have signed to fight someone different, if he was just going to whine.
Shawn91111
6/22/12 11:24:37PM
People actually thinking Guida was robbed?
FlashyG
6/22/12 11:24:39PM

Posted by BeeR

maynard landed what, 12 punches the whole fight?



Calling that a fight is an insult to fights.
george112
6/22/12 11:24:52PM

Posted by Shawn91111

Belt back? Gray you never had the belt




Haha I was thinking the same thing
infestructure
6/22/12 11:24:55PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Condit never got a warning and people complained their butts off about that fight.



Condit didnt run, Guida runs constantly but hides it with his caveman jumping around antics.
Franklinfan47
6/22/12 11:25:43PM
Questionable judging tonight.

8-4 so far on the combo card with 58 I believe.
kingsmasher
6/22/12 11:26:12PM

Posted by prophecy033


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Condit never got a warning and people complained their butts off about that fight.



Well it has to happen first then they know how to treat a runner

what?



they have to see a fighter run like Condit did Diaz and Clay did tonight...After the Condit fight I am sure MMA made a point to tell refs that if fighters appear to run give a warning....so tonight Dan knew to give a warning...
prophecy033
6/22/12 11:26:19PM
He's giving away all his shit, I'm surprised nobody asked for the scab from his nose
Twenty20Dollars
6/22/12 11:26:24PM
Yes, Guida should have just stood there and let Maynard punch him.
postman
6/22/12 11:26:57PM

Posted by prophecy033

Maynard can complain all he wants but it was his job to stop Guida from executing his gameplan. I have no problem with how the fight went down even if I wanted a more exciting fight



Running from the fight is not a game plan IMO. Clay has awsome footwork but if you don't counter off that foot work well then your simply running from the fight. Asians invented fighting and the yellow card so the way I see it
the judges were right.
Twenty20Dollars
6/22/12 11:27:14PM
Starnes never got a warning for running.
Twenty20Dollars
6/22/12 11:28:24PM
Maynard could have tried to use his wrestling more if he didn't like it.
FlashyG
6/22/12 11:28:43PM

Posted by Franklinfan47

Questionable judging tonight.

8-4 so far on the combo card with 58 I believe.



Oddly enough I thought tonight was one of the best judged cards I've ever watched.

It was the commentary I thought was questionable. Kenny Florian was terribly biased in every fight I watched with sound.
postman
6/22/12 11:29:10PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Starnes never got a warning for running.



Sure as hell should have. Two wrongs don't make a right and this was a 5 round main event on free tv
BuffaloDave
6/22/12 11:29:17PM
Glad effective running didn't sway all the judges

9-3 59pts
kingsmasher
6/22/12 11:29:32PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Have anyone not seen a Guida fight before?

Maynard should have signed to fight someone different, if he was just going to whine.



Guida only fights that way against guys he cant out wrestle...Guida puts on fights against guys he can out wrestle...but he also knows he can stick and move and run to win a fight...

Basically tonight MMA put the footdown and said no more running Greg Jackson!!!

Basically if this was allowed Guida could beat Brock Lesner...
infestructure
6/22/12 11:29:44PM

Posted by postman


Posted by prophecy033

Maynard can complain all he wants but it was his job to stop Guida from executing his gameplan. I have no problem with how the fight went down even if I wanted a more exciting fight



Running from the fight is not a game plan IMO. Clay has awsome footwork but if you don't counter off that foot work well then your simply running from the fight. Asians invented fighting and the yellow card so the way I see it
the judges were right.



I liked what you were saying right up until the asians invented fighting part

No one invented fighting, but I though the first martial art was the Greek Pankration.



kopower
6/22/12 11:30:23PM
Stout/Fisher was questionable, as well as Guida/Maynard. I'm glad the judges gave it to Gray though
postman
6/22/12 11:30:26PM

Posted by FlashyG


Posted by Franklinfan47

Questionable judging tonight.

8-4 so far on the combo card with 58 I believe.



Oddly enough I thought tonight was one of the best judged cards I've ever watched.

It was the commentary I thought was questionable. Kenny Florian was terribly biased in every fight I watched with sound.



I agree
sbulldavid
6/22/12 11:30:44PM

Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111

Belt back? Gray you never had the belt




Haha I was thinking the same thing



LOL, Guida's running man jab gave Gray brain damage.
prophecy033
6/22/12 11:30:58PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by prophecy033


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Condit never got a warning and people complained their butts off about that fight.



Well it has to happen first then they know how to treat a runner

what?



they have to see a fighter run like Condit did Diaz and Clay did tonight...After the Condit fight I am sure MMA made a point to tell refs that if fighters appear to run give a warning....so tonight Dan knew to give a warning...

Condit's gameplan was perfect against Diaz. Diax wants you to stand still in front of him with your back against the cage so he can pepper you with punches. I have no problem with him getting out of the pocket before Diaz can get his gameplan going. I can understand how you and other would have a problem with it but I just see it as taking your opponents strength away
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