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george112
6/22/12 10:21:17PM

Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Fisher took that round even with stouts takedowns




In what way?




With counters



Meh, it wasnt enough imo.



That's exactly how I feel about stouts takedowns
Shawn91111
6/22/12 10:22:26PM

Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Fisher took that round even with stouts takedowns




In what way?




With counters



Meh, it wasnt enough imo.



That's exactly how I feel about stouts takedowns



Stout was active with his first takedown, its not like Fisher provided a ton of action from the bottom.
infestructure
6/22/12 10:22:27PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Who does Ebersole get next?



Wasn't he calling Koscheck out?
Twenty20Dollars
6/22/12 10:23:56PM

Posted by infestructure


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Who does Ebersole get next?



Wasn't he calling Koscheck out?



Idk, I wasn't listening. That would be a weight class above.

FlashyG
6/22/12 10:25:20PM
Spencer has started both rounds strong and Stout has finished both well

I have it one round apiece but I could conceivably see it scored 2-0 for either fighter depending on your opinion.

I'd hate to be a judge for this fight.
infestructure
6/22/12 10:25:57PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by infestructure


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Who does Ebersole get next?



Wasn't he calling Koscheck out?



Idk, I wasn't listening. That would be a weight class above.




Just looked it up, they just have bad blood. Ebersole said he would go up.
Twenty20Dollars
6/22/12 10:27:17PM

Posted by infestructure


Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by infestructure


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Who does Ebersole get next?



Wasn't he calling Koscheck out?



Idk, I wasn't listening. That would be a weight class above.




Just looked it up, they just have bad blood. Ebersole said he would go up.



Interesting. I remember recently him saying he wants to beat up Diaz bro's, but those fights are more unlikely.
Shawn91111
6/22/12 10:27:41PM
horrible fucking stand up
FlashyG
6/22/12 10:27:42PM
29-28 Stout IMO.
Shawn91111
6/22/12 10:28:07PM
29-28 Stout..1st and 3rd
george112
6/22/12 10:28:13PM
Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight
Shawn91111
6/22/12 10:29:00PM

Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?
FlashyG
6/22/12 10:30:31PM

Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



I'm going to go ahead and guess you had Spencer picked?
Twenty20Dollars
6/22/12 10:30:45PM
I got a correct finish!
george112
6/22/12 10:31:20PM
30-27??


Complete Bullshit


His highlights are his few takedowns.


Didn't come forward. Didn't push the action. Went for a takedown In the last .minute to steal the round
infestructure
6/22/12 10:32:24PM
I was only half watching that fight, but I picked Stout and wished I didn't after the first round

Maybe thats why I only half watched it.


ok. I got Maynard, lets do this. (in like ten minutes)
BuffaloDave
6/22/12 10:33:07PM
I feel bad taking those 11 pts , Got a gift there Stout.

Hope Fisher wants to go out better than that.

8-3 52pts
george112
6/22/12 10:33:17PM

Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo
FlashyG
6/22/12 10:35:23PM

Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo



I'll wait to see the fight stats but I think the amount of strikes landed was a lot closer than you seem to think.

I do agree though that takedowns are scored too heavily in most fights.
kopower
6/22/12 10:35:25PM
Have to agree George. Thought it would be a SD at minimum. Spencer easily outstruck, and outlanded Stout.
sbulldavid
6/22/12 10:35:37PM

Posted by Shawn91111

I lost my parlay so early it makes me pissed off the rest of the show. Sometimes I wish I could just not play the game and just enjoy the show.

Shawn91111
6/22/12 10:38:34PM

Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo



Last minute takedown? Really? Its not like Stout landed shit and was shut down.
Twenty20Dollars
6/22/12 10:38:52PM
You guys can enjoy the fights we don't get to pick tomorrow.

I just need to stick to two man parlay from now on.
george112
6/22/12 10:41:44PM

Posted by FlashyG


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo



I'll wait to see the fight stats but I think the amount of strikes landed was a lot closer than you seem to think.

I do agree though that takedowns are scored too heavily in most fights.



Even of they were closer you can't honestly tell me Spencer got outstruck . Spencer negated stouts kicks with his spinning backfists and elbows.

Only time stout used the takedown effectively was in the first round where he landed some ground and Pound

All takedowns after that were purely to steal the round
george112
6/22/12 10:44:01PM

Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo



Last minute takedown? Really? Its not like Stout landed shit and was shut down.



Rewatch it if you like.

Watch the clock get to approx 1:30 or a little less or a little more and watch stout go for the takedown

Also never said stout got shutdown

He landed his own and had like a said a few takedowns. Imo it just wast enough to negate almost the entire fight of losing on the feet
FlashyG
6/22/12 10:44:45PM

Posted by george112


Posted by FlashyG


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo



I'll wait to see the fight stats but I think the amount of strikes landed was a lot closer than you seem to think.

I do agree though that takedowns are scored too heavily in most fights.



Even of they were closer you can't honestly tell me Spencer got outstruck . Spencer negated stouts kicks with his spinning backfists and elbows.

Only time stout used the takedown effectively was in the first round where he landed some ground and Pound

All takedowns after that were purely to steal the round



I can't say Stout won the stand-up over the whole fight but if he kept it even then the takedowns would be the deciding factor of the rounds.

I had it 29-28 Stout, I do think he won the stand-up in the final round, especially near the end when it turned into more of a brawl.

Shawn91111
6/22/12 10:44:46PM

Posted by george112


Posted by FlashyG


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo



I'll wait to see the fight stats but I think the amount of strikes landed was a lot closer than you seem to think.

I do agree though that takedowns are scored too heavily in most fights.



Even of they were closer you can't honestly tell me Spencer got outstruck . Spencer negated stouts kicks with his spinning backfists and elbows.

Only time stout used the takedown effectively was in the first round where he landed some ground and Pound

All takedowns after that were purely to steal the round



He passed to half guard and was throwing down punches in the 3rd
Shawn91111
6/22/12 10:45:46PM

Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo



Last minute takedown? Really? Its not like Stout landed shit and was shut down.



Rewatch it if you like.

Watch the clock get to approx 1:30 or a little less or a little more and watch stout go for the takedown




So if its less than 2 min to go in a round its to steal the round and affect the judges?
Shawn91111
6/22/12 10:46:43PM

Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo



Last minute takedown? Really? Its not like Stout landed shit and was shut down.



Rewatch it if you like.

Watch the clock get to approx 1:30 or a little less or a little more and watch stout go for the takedown

Also never said stout got shutdown

He landed his own and had like a said a few takedowns. Imo it just wast enough to negate almost the entire fight of losing on the feet



Im not the one who needs to rewatch it. I just checked 6 mma websites that do their own play by play...all 6 gave the fight to Stout
george112
6/22/12 10:48:25PM

Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112


Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by george112

Evenly matched on the feet my ass


5 takedowns compared to 12 minutes of getting your ass handed to you on the feet shouldn't give you the fight



What fights do you watch?



I watched the fight where fisher came forward the whole time landing way more strikes get taken down the last minute and lose the fight because of it.

The takedown holds way to much leverage with the judges imo



Last minute takedown? Really? Its not like Stout landed shit and was shut down.



Rewatch it if you like.

Watch the clock get to approx 1:30 or a little less or a little more and watch stout go for the takedown




So if its less than 2 min to go in a round its to steal the round and affect the judges?



In stouts case yeah thats what I'm saying.

Commentators said it themselves . The takedowns won him he fight
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